Ummm... okay. Thanks for the leak. I need to digest that roster for a while....
DLC18 discussion and predictions
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No, for all we know the planco dictionary entries could be animals that were going to be added but later changed for some reason.
I really, REALLY hope you're right. Gosh, if that's really the roster, I couldn't even find the right words to describe my disappointment.
I get that. Even though, to be fair, there are a few animals I wanted and on the other hand, I didn't need any animals in the first place on a particularly high level, so I don't really understand why I'm disappointed, but... ya know, South America does actually exist, despite Frontier thinking otherwise...I really, REALLY hope you're right. Gosh, if that's really the roster, I couldn't even find the right words to describe my disappointment.
And there is a weird species choice again and then those... tiny oddballs. all so weird.
I feel you. Like sure we get the baboon, secretary, tree ro, echidna and a duck but who even asked for or really wants the rest of those? I mean i would like all but there are FAR better options, even among "easy" clones.I really, REALLY hope you're right. Gosh, if that's really the roster, I couldn't even find the right words to describe my disappointment.
And what theme would group all of that under a DLC.
"Zookeeper Pack"
They did that with JWE and JWE2. We are basically getting the scraps they had laying around. Animals that would have made it into the other DLCs but then didn't or those who are easy clones, yeah.
I mean, I kind of expected it, but still..
my eyes every time the mf'ing lqa remains unchanged
I'd say that for the ones that were added this year there's a bigger chance that they are not scrapped or changed than that they are. Both due their timing and how far along in the process you'd have to be for that.
That being said (in general), that roster is still speculation and aside from the extremely obviously specific ones like Hamadryas Baboon and Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo a lot of it can be used for different things than just animals or even Planet Zoo. I wouldn't consider that list as anything remotely set in stone to what Frontier is going to release.
It probably isnt I just looked through the dictionary and made a bunch of random animals only a few of those I think are actually leaked like echidna, tree kangaroo and baboon all the rest besides lemming are just combinations of already existing words.I really, REALLY hope you're right. Gosh, if that's really the roster, I couldn't even find the right words to describe my disappointment.
Also good to know that simply speaking in planco has everyone convinced I am correct
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I agree there is a big chance that the april entries are significant but realistically there are so many random animals in the dictionary like lemming that have no reason to be there and have been for ages that not every entry means something.
For what it's worth, "hedgehog" just refers to that topiary we already have in the game, most likely. The European hedgehog would be a super stupid addition and I doubt even Frontier with all their questionable choices over the years would be that dumb. I also feel like 'lemming' is some kind of Planet Coaster ride.
Echidna aslo feels like a ride's name with it being a mythical monster and all that.
What if... all these new names are rides or scenery pieces for planet coaster 2, not a single one to do with planet zoo 
Could also be the african hedgehog, which is somewhat regulary kept.
But idk how i feel about exhibit mammals in general
I want exhibit Mammals. Specially rodents and stuff like the maked mole rat. We already have bats and sloths that also move in loops and random spawning points. It wouldn't be much different in a exhibit box.
Wasn't there a song titled "echidna something" in the official soundtrack of the game?
The one thing that gives me any pause is that "Howe" has been in there since January (from what I've been told/read here) and we aren't sure how long it's been there because folks haven't really been checking. Haha.
Obviously, the bulk add of the new hyper-specific words like Goodfellow, Hamadryas, and secretary are probably a bit more telling (especially all at once!) but still... It's potentially odd that they added "Howe" and the stick island insect was never added to the game.
In general, though, it's odd that they would bother creating a name for anything that's not going to be in-game. I would have assumed that would be one of the last steps in the process...
There's a very small number of mammals I'd be okay with having in an exhibit box. And naked mole rats are #1, hah! The slow loris is the other. And in both cases its purely because they would functionally be incredibly challenging in a standard habitat format.
But in both cases, the current "typical" exhibit size/shape wouldn't make so much sense.
Yeah but they didnt do it for the normal exhibits after the WE came up on the scene. The tortoise especially needed it, yet they didnt do it
I decided to look into how an Islands theme might filter the 2024 meta-wishlist, and got to the following lists (chosen min of 2). This is a pretty literal translation, looking at exact names presented, selecting island subspecies if they help get it in.
The forced subspecies seems pretty unlikely, but it was a mildly interesting idea.
Island Exclusives (not including Australian mainland)
53 - Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
38 - Tasmanian Short-beaked Echidna
26 - Haida Gwaii/Newfoundland/Dall island/Vancouver island Black Bear
17 - Matchie's Tree Kangaroo
16 - Coquerel's Sifaka
15 - Aye-aye
14 - Japanese Raccoon Dog
13 - Victoria Crowned Pigeon
12 - Hispaniolan/Cuban/Margarita island Burrowing Owl
12 - Radiated Tortoise
Island Exclusives (including Australia)
53 - Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
38 - Short-beaked Echidna
26 - Haida Gwaii/Newfoundland/Dall island/Vancouver island Black Bear
18 - Perentie
17 - Matchie's Tree Kangaroo
16 - Coquerel's Sifaka
15 - Aye-aye
15 - Black Swan
14 - Japanese Raccoon Dog
13 - Victoria Crowned Pigeon
Native to at least one island
53 - Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
48 - Musk Ox (Greenland, NW Canadian islands)
41 - Great White Pelican (Dassen, Banc d'Arguin)
39 - Walrus (Greenland, Iceland, etc.)
38 - Ocelot (Trinidad & Margarita)
38 - Short-beaked Echidna
31 - Mandarin Duck (Japan, Taiwan)
31 - Roseate Spoonbill (Cuba, Hispaniola, etc.)
27 - Scarlet Ibis (Lesser Antilles, Trinidad)
26 - American Black Bear
The forced subspecies seems pretty unlikely, but it was a mildly interesting idea.
Island Exclusives (not including Australian mainland)
53 - Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
38 - Tasmanian Short-beaked Echidna
26 - Haida Gwaii/Newfoundland/Dall island/Vancouver island Black Bear
17 - Matchie's Tree Kangaroo
16 - Coquerel's Sifaka
15 - Aye-aye
14 - Japanese Raccoon Dog
13 - Victoria Crowned Pigeon
12 - Hispaniolan/Cuban/Margarita island Burrowing Owl
12 - Radiated Tortoise
10 - Nene
10 - Japanese Serow
10 - Cozumel Coati
6 - Tiburón Island Coyote
6 - Kodiak/Haida Gwaii River Otter (North American River Otter)
5 - Celebes Crested Macaque
5 - Crocodile Monitor
5 - Cuban Crocodile
5 - Kakapo
5 - Lowland Anoa
5 - Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
5 - Sumatran Tiger
5 - Florida Key/Margarita White-tailed deer
4 - Javan/Bornean Banteng
4 - Coconut crab (Indian and Pacific ocean islands)
4 - Northern Luzon giant cloud rat
4 - Rhinoceros iguana
4 - Takahē
3 - Galapagos Brown Pelican
3 - Tasmanian Brushtail Possum
3 - South Georgia/Eastern Gentoo penguin
3 - Galapagos Great Blue Heron
3 - Indonesian Javan Rhinoceros
3 - Marine Iguana
3 - Visayan warty pig
2 - Forester Kangaroo
2 - Eastern Long-beaked Echidna
2 - Ezo Red Squirrel
2 - Kagu
2 - Kunekune pig
2 - Malagasy giant jumping rat
2 - Cyprus Mouflon
2 - Cuban Sandhill Crane
2 - Shetland pony
2 - Sakhalin Musk deer
2 - Visayan Spotted Deer
2 - Western Long-beaked Echidna
10 - Japanese Serow
10 - Cozumel Coati
6 - Tiburón Island Coyote
6 - Kodiak/Haida Gwaii River Otter (North American River Otter)
5 - Celebes Crested Macaque
5 - Crocodile Monitor
5 - Cuban Crocodile
5 - Kakapo
5 - Lowland Anoa
5 - Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
5 - Sumatran Tiger
5 - Florida Key/Margarita White-tailed deer
4 - Javan/Bornean Banteng
4 - Coconut crab (Indian and Pacific ocean islands)
4 - Northern Luzon giant cloud rat
4 - Rhinoceros iguana
4 - Takahē
3 - Galapagos Brown Pelican
3 - Tasmanian Brushtail Possum
3 - South Georgia/Eastern Gentoo penguin
3 - Galapagos Great Blue Heron
3 - Indonesian Javan Rhinoceros
3 - Marine Iguana
3 - Visayan warty pig
2 - Forester Kangaroo
2 - Eastern Long-beaked Echidna
2 - Ezo Red Squirrel
2 - Kagu
2 - Kunekune pig
2 - Malagasy giant jumping rat
2 - Cyprus Mouflon
2 - Cuban Sandhill Crane
2 - Shetland pony
2 - Sakhalin Musk deer
2 - Visayan Spotted Deer
2 - Western Long-beaked Echidna
Island Exclusives (including Australia)
53 - Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
38 - Short-beaked Echidna
26 - Haida Gwaii/Newfoundland/Dall island/Vancouver island Black Bear
18 - Perentie
17 - Matchie's Tree Kangaroo
16 - Coquerel's Sifaka
15 - Aye-aye
15 - Black Swan
14 - Japanese Raccoon Dog
13 - Victoria Crowned Pigeon
12 - Hispaniolan/Cuban/Margarita island Burrowing Owl
12 - Radiated Tortoise
10 - Nene
10 - Japanese Serow
10 - Cozumel Coati
7 - Greater Bilby
6 - Tiburón Island Coyote
6 - Kodiak/Haida Gwaii River Otter (North American River Otter)
6 - Numbat
5 - Celebes Crested Macaque
5 - Crocodile Monitor
5 - Cuban Crocodile
5 - Kakapo
5 - Lowland Anoa
5 - Pig-nosed Turtle (New Guinea)
5 - Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
5 - Sumatran Tiger
5 - Florida Key/Margarita White-tailed deer
4 - Javan/Bornean Banteng
4 - Coconut crab (Indian and Pacific ocean islands)
4 - Magpie goose (New Guinea)
4 - Northern Luzon giant cloud rat
4 - Rhinoceros iguana
4 - Takahē
4 - Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby
3 - Australian Pelican (Tasmania, New Guinea, Fiji, Timor, etc.)
3 - Galapagos Brown Pelican
3 - Common Brushtail Possum
3 - Freshwater Crocodile
3 - South Georgia/Eastern Gentoo penguin
3 - Galapagos Great Blue Heron
3 - Indonesian Javan Rhinoceros
3 - Marine Iguana
3 - Lace monitor
3 - Superb lyrebird
3 - Tiger quoll (Tasmania)
3 - Visayan warty pig
2 - Brolga (New Guinea)
2 - Eastern Grey Kangaroo
2 - Eastern Long-beaked Echidna
2 - Ezo Red Squirrel
2 - Kagu
2 - Kunekune pig
2 - Malagasy giant jumping rat
2 - Cyprus Mouflon
2 - Cuban Sandhill Crane
2 - Shetland pony
2 - Sakhalin Musk deer
2 - Visayan Spotted Deer
2 - Western Long-beaked Echidna
12 - Radiated Tortoise
10 - Nene
10 - Japanese Serow
10 - Cozumel Coati
7 - Greater Bilby
6 - Tiburón Island Coyote
6 - Kodiak/Haida Gwaii River Otter (North American River Otter)
6 - Numbat
5 - Celebes Crested Macaque
5 - Crocodile Monitor
5 - Cuban Crocodile
5 - Kakapo
5 - Lowland Anoa
5 - Pig-nosed Turtle (New Guinea)
5 - Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
5 - Sumatran Tiger
5 - Florida Key/Margarita White-tailed deer
4 - Javan/Bornean Banteng
4 - Coconut crab (Indian and Pacific ocean islands)
4 - Magpie goose (New Guinea)
4 - Northern Luzon giant cloud rat
4 - Rhinoceros iguana
4 - Takahē
4 - Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby
3 - Australian Pelican (Tasmania, New Guinea, Fiji, Timor, etc.)
3 - Galapagos Brown Pelican
3 - Common Brushtail Possum
3 - Freshwater Crocodile
3 - South Georgia/Eastern Gentoo penguin
3 - Galapagos Great Blue Heron
3 - Indonesian Javan Rhinoceros
3 - Marine Iguana
3 - Lace monitor
3 - Superb lyrebird
3 - Tiger quoll (Tasmania)
3 - Visayan warty pig
2 - Brolga (New Guinea)
2 - Eastern Grey Kangaroo
2 - Eastern Long-beaked Echidna
2 - Ezo Red Squirrel
2 - Kagu
2 - Kunekune pig
2 - Malagasy giant jumping rat
2 - Cyprus Mouflon
2 - Cuban Sandhill Crane
2 - Shetland pony
2 - Sakhalin Musk deer
2 - Visayan Spotted Deer
2 - Western Long-beaked Echidna
Native to at least one island
53 - Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
48 - Musk Ox (Greenland, NW Canadian islands)
41 - Great White Pelican (Dassen, Banc d'Arguin)
39 - Walrus (Greenland, Iceland, etc.)
38 - Ocelot (Trinidad & Margarita)
38 - Short-beaked Echidna
31 - Mandarin Duck (Japan, Taiwan)
31 - Roseate Spoonbill (Cuba, Hispaniola, etc.)
27 - Scarlet Ibis (Lesser Antilles, Trinidad)
26 - American Black Bear
25 - Rock Hyrax (Dassen)
25 - Sea Otter (Kurill, Commander, Aleutian & San Nicolas)
23 - Reeve's Muntjac (Taiwan)
21 - Southern Tamandua (Trinidad)
20 - Helmeted Guineafowl (Pemba)
18 - Perentie (Barrow)
17 - American Flamingo (Galapagos, Caribbean)
17 - Matchie's Tree Kangaroo
16 - Coquerel's Sifaka
16 - Southern Elephant seal (Subantarctic)
16 - West Indian Manatee (Caribbean)
15 - Aye-aye
15 - Black Swan (Tasmania, Kangaroo, etc.)
14 - Japanese Raccoon Dog
14 - Yellow-throated Marten (Borneo, Sumatra, Java)
13 - Nile Crocodile (Madagascar)
13 - Victoria Crowned Pigeon
12 - Burrowing Owl
12 - Radiated Tortoise
12 - Southern Rockhopper penguin (Subantarctic)
10 - Cottontop Tamarin (Rosario)
10 - Nene
10 - Japanese Serow
10 - Cozumel Coati
9 - Arctic hare (Greenland, NW Canadian islands)
9 - Leopard seal (Subantarctic)
8 - Brazilian Porcupine (Trinidad)
8 - Mallard (Britain, Mediterranean, Iceland, etc.)
8 - Western Capercallie (Great Britain)
7 - Atlantic puffin (Britain, Greenland, Iceland, etc.)
7 - European rabbit (Guernsey & Jersey)
7 - Fishing cat (Sri Lanka)
7 - Greater Bilby
6 - Coyote
6 - North American River Otter
6 - Numbat
6 - White-faced Whistling duck (Madagascar, etc.)
5 - African civet (Zanzibar)
5 - Axis deer (Sri Lanka)
5 - Celebes Crested Macaque
5 - Crocodile Monitor
5 - Cuban Crocodile
5 - European Hare (Corsica)
5 - Guanaco (Tierra del Fuego)
5 - Kakapo
5 - Lowland Anoa
5 - Pig-nosed Turtle (New Guinea)
5 - Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
5 - Sumatran Tiger
5 - White-tailed deer
4 - Asian Golden cat (Sumatra)
4 - Banded Mongoose (Zanzibar)
4 - Banteng
4 - Coconut crab (Indian and Pacific ocean islands)
4 - European pine marten (Corsica, Sardinia, Britain)
4 - Green sea turtle (Worldwide tropics)
4 - Magpie goose (New Guinea)
4 - Northern Luzon giant cloud rat
4 - Rhinoceros iguana
4 - Takahē
4 - Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby
3 - Australian Pelican (Tasmania, New Guinea, Fiji, Timor, etc.)
3 - Brown Pelican
3 - Common Brushtail Possum
3 - Bobcat (Prince Edward Island)
3 - Canada goose (Newfoundland)
3 - Emperor Penguin (Antarctic)
3 - European Wild cat (Sicily, Britain?)
3 - Freshwater Crocodile
3 - Gentoo penguin
3 - Great Blue Heron
3 - Harbour seal (Aleutian, Britain, Greenland, etc.)
3 - Javan Rhinoceros
3 - Marine Iguana
3 - Lace monitor
3 - Guyanan Red Howler (Trinidad)
3 - Superb lyrebird
3 - Tiger quoll (Tasmania)
3 - Visayan warty pig
2 - Beluga (Arctic)
2 - Black-necked Swan (Falklands)
2 - Bottlenosed Dolphin (worldwide)
2 - Brolga (New Guinea)
2 - Brown fur seal (Tasmania, Bass strait, Kangaroo)
2 - Chilean Flamingo (Tierra del Fuego)
2 - Eastern Grey Kangaroo
2 - Eastern Long-beaked Echidna
2 - Eurasian Brown Bear (Sakhalin, etc.)
2 - Eurasian otter (Sumatra, Sri Lanka, Britain, etc.)
2 - Eurasian Red Squirrel
2 - European Hedgehog (Britain, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily)
2 - Golden Jackal (Sri Lanka, Crete, Cyprus)
2 - Kagu
2 - Kunekune pig
2 - Malagasy giant jumping rat
2 - Mouflon
2 - Muscovy Duck (Trinidad)
2 - Red Junglefowl (Sumatra, Hainan)
2 - Red-footed Tortoise (Trinidad, Lesser Antilles)
2 - Red-rumped Agouti (Trinidad, Tobago, Saint Lucia)
2 - Ribbon Seal (Aleutian, Sakhalin)
2 - Sandhill Crane
2 - Shetland pony
2 - Siberian Musk deer
2 - Visayan Spotted Deer
2 - Western Long-beaked Echidna
25 - Sea Otter (Kurill, Commander, Aleutian & San Nicolas)
23 - Reeve's Muntjac (Taiwan)
21 - Southern Tamandua (Trinidad)
20 - Helmeted Guineafowl (Pemba)
18 - Perentie (Barrow)
17 - American Flamingo (Galapagos, Caribbean)
17 - Matchie's Tree Kangaroo
16 - Coquerel's Sifaka
16 - Southern Elephant seal (Subantarctic)
16 - West Indian Manatee (Caribbean)
15 - Aye-aye
15 - Black Swan (Tasmania, Kangaroo, etc.)
14 - Japanese Raccoon Dog
14 - Yellow-throated Marten (Borneo, Sumatra, Java)
13 - Nile Crocodile (Madagascar)
13 - Victoria Crowned Pigeon
12 - Burrowing Owl
12 - Radiated Tortoise
12 - Southern Rockhopper penguin (Subantarctic)
10 - Cottontop Tamarin (Rosario)
10 - Nene
10 - Japanese Serow
10 - Cozumel Coati
9 - Arctic hare (Greenland, NW Canadian islands)
9 - Leopard seal (Subantarctic)
8 - Brazilian Porcupine (Trinidad)
8 - Mallard (Britain, Mediterranean, Iceland, etc.)
8 - Western Capercallie (Great Britain)
7 - Atlantic puffin (Britain, Greenland, Iceland, etc.)
7 - European rabbit (Guernsey & Jersey)
7 - Fishing cat (Sri Lanka)
7 - Greater Bilby
6 - Coyote
6 - North American River Otter
6 - Numbat
6 - White-faced Whistling duck (Madagascar, etc.)
5 - African civet (Zanzibar)
5 - Axis deer (Sri Lanka)
5 - Celebes Crested Macaque
5 - Crocodile Monitor
5 - Cuban Crocodile
5 - European Hare (Corsica)
5 - Guanaco (Tierra del Fuego)
5 - Kakapo
5 - Lowland Anoa
5 - Pig-nosed Turtle (New Guinea)
5 - Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
5 - Sumatran Tiger
5 - White-tailed deer
4 - Asian Golden cat (Sumatra)
4 - Banded Mongoose (Zanzibar)
4 - Banteng
4 - Coconut crab (Indian and Pacific ocean islands)
4 - European pine marten (Corsica, Sardinia, Britain)
4 - Green sea turtle (Worldwide tropics)
4 - Magpie goose (New Guinea)
4 - Northern Luzon giant cloud rat
4 - Rhinoceros iguana
4 - Takahē
4 - Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby
3 - Australian Pelican (Tasmania, New Guinea, Fiji, Timor, etc.)
3 - Brown Pelican
3 - Common Brushtail Possum
3 - Bobcat (Prince Edward Island)
3 - Canada goose (Newfoundland)
3 - Emperor Penguin (Antarctic)
3 - European Wild cat (Sicily, Britain?)
3 - Freshwater Crocodile
3 - Gentoo penguin
3 - Great Blue Heron
3 - Harbour seal (Aleutian, Britain, Greenland, etc.)
3 - Javan Rhinoceros
3 - Marine Iguana
3 - Lace monitor
3 - Guyanan Red Howler (Trinidad)
3 - Superb lyrebird
3 - Tiger quoll (Tasmania)
3 - Visayan warty pig
2 - Beluga (Arctic)
2 - Black-necked Swan (Falklands)
2 - Bottlenosed Dolphin (worldwide)
2 - Brolga (New Guinea)
2 - Brown fur seal (Tasmania, Bass strait, Kangaroo)
2 - Chilean Flamingo (Tierra del Fuego)
2 - Eastern Grey Kangaroo
2 - Eastern Long-beaked Echidna
2 - Eurasian Brown Bear (Sakhalin, etc.)
2 - Eurasian otter (Sumatra, Sri Lanka, Britain, etc.)
2 - Eurasian Red Squirrel
2 - European Hedgehog (Britain, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily)
2 - Golden Jackal (Sri Lanka, Crete, Cyprus)
2 - Kagu
2 - Kunekune pig
2 - Malagasy giant jumping rat
2 - Mouflon
2 - Muscovy Duck (Trinidad)
2 - Red Junglefowl (Sumatra, Hainan)
2 - Red-footed Tortoise (Trinidad, Lesser Antilles)
2 - Red-rumped Agouti (Trinidad, Tobago, Saint Lucia)
2 - Ribbon Seal (Aleutian, Sakhalin)
2 - Sandhill Crane
2 - Shetland pony
2 - Siberian Musk deer
2 - Visayan Spotted Deer
2 - Western Long-beaked Echidna