DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)

[Marvinb]

I think India/South Asia really was a missed Region within the Game until now (I know South America but in little steps we get closer to a good rooster from there). And I am heavily and positive surprised that a lot of people agree with me that auch a pack could include a bit more ungulates.
Nevertheless, I am Just Happy to welcome more species to the Game soon

An india pack for sure could make good use of ungulates, but i still dont really want an excessive amount again.
Like 3 is a good amount i feel like. That way we still have 2 spots for one of the many great bird options for india and one of the obligatory cats/dogs

 

[The Aardvark]

Let's play a game, pick 3 ungulates you want to see in this pack. I will check back in the evening to add up the score.

My three picks are Blackbuck, Chital, and Gaur

My three picks are:
• Blackbuck
• Indian Muntjac
• Gaur

While I don't personally care all that much for gaur, I feel like it would be cool to get an Asian bovine that is actually usable (I'm looking at you, Wild Water Buffalo*). Plus it would have different habitat requirements compared to the buffalo, so it could be interesting. It also has plenty of mixed exhibit potential... If Frontier doesn't screw up on that.


*the wild water buffalo is actually one of my most used ungulates, although only as a stand-in for its domestic counterpart. Why we got the wild species instead of the domestic one is anyone's guess

 

[AlexSea]

Let's play a game, pick 3 ungulates you want to see in this pack. I will check back in the evening to add up the score.

Blackbuck, Indian Spotted Chevrotain, and Nilgai.

 

[Mjmannella]

Let's play a game, pick 3 ungulates you want to see in this pack. I will check back in the evening to add up the score.

My three picks are Blackbuck, Chital, and Gaur
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• Nilgai
• Blackbuck
• Northern Red Muntjac

 

[The Aardvark]

Blackbuck, Indian Spotted Chevrotain, and Nilgai.

Chevrotain is an amazing choice which I completely forgot about

 

[QueenCinna]

Surprise pack, I really think we will keep seeing more DLC tbh

 

[NachoB]

Let's play a game, pick 3 ungulates you want to see in this pack. I will check back in the evening to add up the score.

My three picks are Blackbuck, Chital, and Gaur
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Three i want to see?

Blackbuck
Chital
Muntjac

What i think we will get?

Zebu
Chital
Nilgai

 

[Mjmannella]

I would be quite shocked if we got zebus TBH

 

[NachoB]

Surprise pack, I really think we will keep seeing more DLC tbh

I don't.

I think the fact that this one is coming earlier is another nail in the coffin for PZ 1. Just like what happened with JWE 2.

 

[The Aardvark]

I don't.

I think the fact that this one is coming earlier is another nail in the coffin for PZ 1. Just like what happened with JWE 2.

Or maybe... Here's my theory.
DLCs for Console always come in bundles of two.
Last year, Frontier was busy catching up with the PC releases, and spent most of their resources on porting DLCs over to console. So, in 2024, Console edition got all of PC edition's DLCs, while PC got two new packs (Barnyard and Zookeeper).
These new packs have now been released on Console as a single bundle, meaning that now Console Edition is fully caught up with PC...
...except for Americas.

Now, PC is getting a new pack, which will most likely be released to Console in a bundle together with Americas. So, I think that we're actually back to our usual "4 packs every year" format, which for console translates to two new bundles every year.
I don't know how long this will last, probably only this year, or two years if we're lucky, but I personally think we're on our way to get another three packs (including South Asia)

 

[USzoofan42]

Let's play a game, pick 3 ungulates you want to see in this pack. I will check back in the evening to add up the score.

My three picks are Blackbuck, Chital, and Gaur
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• Hog Deer
• Gaur
• Blackbuck

 

[becks474]

I don't.

I think the fact that this one is coming earlier is another nail in the coffin for PZ 1. Just like what happened with JWE 2.

Like all the nails since the NA Animal Pack. Really, I do Not See any reason to discuss the end of PZ anmyore. Since NA Animal Pack which was Release 3.5 years ago, this discussion was held and this lead too so much anger Here around.
Nevertheless, nothing looks and sounds like last pack to me at the moment. But If this should be the case it is as it is.

 

[biggest_dreamer]

Oh, I was so certain that there would be nothing of note in the stream that I didn't even check in until I saw @CharlieXGaming's video pop up in my YouTube feed (thanks!). India is good, honey badger and lion-tailed macaque are good, but if we're actually getting a third elephant when there were plenty of other animals that had some degree of actual demand for additional "redundant" (sub)species (Masai giraffe, Grevy's zebra, additional brown bear or gray wolf or even lion subspecies) then idek that's just bizarre and tone deaf. I really hope that they're just there for visual flourish, but my expectations are somewhat low.

Still, absolutely incredible that we're getting our third monkey in a row, and they've actually managed to all be really good picks too. I'll be disappointed if we don't see both the blackbuck and nilgai here, but I think those are pretty safe inclusions assuming this is indeed India and not some broader Asian theme. Selfishly, I'd also consider the fishing cat an absolute top priority, but I know that one's bound to be a bit more contentious. I suppose you could round out the roster with gaur or axis deer/barasingha/Indian muntjac, any of which I'd be fine with, but I'd also be fine without them. Perhaps a langur in addition to the macaque if Frontier wanted to be extra nice? Or of course, any bird would be greatly welcomed - not sure off the top of my head what would be on theme but if this is where we finally get a pheasant or pelican I'd be thrilled.

Haven't really dug too much into the speculation yet but I've already seen a lot of really lackluster suggestions like corsac fox, golden jackal, Indian crested porcupine, and Indian pangolin - things that aren't particularly common in zoos and would offer very little on top of their extant cousins. Those would be disappointing in any situation, but if we truly are getting a redundant elephant they'd especially drag the pack down. India was one of the best spots left that could give us a decent contained roster, so please don't let it be bogged down with unpopular redundancies.

 

[Britches]

I think, all the animals in the upcoming pack will be clones and one of them will be another Elephant :/
I would love to get a civet tbh.

 

[Marvinb]

Oh, I was so certain that there would be nothing of note in the stream that I didn't even check in until I saw @CharlieXGaming's video pop up in my YouTube feed (thanks!). India is good, honey badger and lion-tailed macaque are good, but if we're actually getting a third elephant when there were plenty of other animals that had some degree of actual demand for additional "redundant" (sub)species (Masai giraffe, Grevy's zebra, additional brown bear or gray wolf or even lion subspecies) then idek that's just bizarre and tone deaf. I really hope that they're just there for visual flourish, but my expectations are somewhat low.

Still, absolutely incredible that we're getting our third monkey in a row, and they've actually managed to all be really good picks too. I'll be disappointed if we don't see both the blackbuck and nilgai here, but I think those are pretty safe inclusions assuming this is indeed India and not some broader Asian theme. Selfishly, I'd also consider the fishing cat an absolute top priority, but I know that one's bound to be a bit more contentious. I suppose you could round out the roster with gaur or axis deer/barasingha/Indian muntjac, any of which I'd be fine with, but I'd also be fine without them. Perhaps a langur in addition to the macaque if Frontier wanted to be extra nice? Or of course, any bird would be greatly welcomed - not sure off the top of my head what would be on theme but if this is where we finally get a pheasant or pelican I'd be thrilled.

Haven't really dug too much into the speculation yet but I've already seen a lot of really lackluster suggestions like corsac fox, golden jackal, Indian crested porcupine, and Indian pangolin - things that aren't particularly common in zoos and would offer very little on top of their extant cousins. Those would be disappointing in any situation, but if we truly are getting a redundant elephant they'd especially drag the pack down. India was one of the best spots left that could give us a decent contained roster, so please don't let it be bogged down with unpopular redundancies.

Isnt the indian porcupine actually the most common one?

 

[biggest_dreamer]

Isnt the indian porcupine actually the most common one?

You know what, I'll immediately eat crow on that one. You're right, they're apparently everywhere in Europe. I knew they're not common at all in North America, and based on how all of the porcupine demands for this game seemed to fixate on the African species, I incorrectly extrapolated that they were equally uncommon elsewhere in the world.

That said, they're still pretty visually redundant. If we're already stuck with a second Asian elephant, another similar porcupine would be especially egregious.

 

[SanRazo]

Let's play a game, pick 3 ungulates you want to see in this pack. I will check back in the evening to add up the score.

My three picks are Blackbuck, Chital, and Gaur
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Blackbuck, Nilgai, Gaur.

I know we need deer but those three are too iconic to India to not include. Overall very excited for our new ungulates we’ll be getting in this pack. And I am hopeful/ excited for an ungulates heavy one this time around.

 

[The Aardvark]

You know what, I'll immediately eat crow on that one. You're right, they're apparently everywhere in Europe. I knew they're not common at all in North America, and based on how all of the porcupine demands for this game seemed to fixate on the African species, I incorrectly extrapolated that they were equally uncommon elsewhere in the world.

That said, they're still pretty visually redundant. If we're already stuck with a second Asian elephant, another similar porcupine would be especially egregious.

Another Old World porcupine would feel extremely redundant, especially the Indian one... It's a little lighter in colour and has a different crest, but other than that it's very, very similar.
I tend to be in favour of clones of base game/early DLC animals, because they at least introduce a new updated model compared to their older counterparts, but when it comes to more recent additions I feel more pessimistic. The porcupine came out in 2023, it's still relatively "fresh" and I don't see the reason why would need another one so soon. If it had been four years since our last porcupine, then maybe I'd be happy at the idea of another similar species; but since it's been so little since we got the African porcupine, then I would be pretty mad at the Indian one.

 

[Hugo98]

Let's play a game, pick 3 ungulates you want to see in this pack. I will check back in the evening to add up the score.

My three picks are Blackbuck, Chital, and Gaur
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I choose the same three.

If it's a general Asian pack I'd swap the gaur for the Reeve's muntjac and the chital for the Pere David's deer.

 

[Cooper_yang]

I know some people in the forum don't like ungulates, but I am an exception. I hope the new DLC can cover all of Asia instead of focusing only on India. I want the following ungulates.