This was supposed to look more marketable?
DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)
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Forgot about the ears... Oh dear
I hope we get an animal!
Good news! We just got 7.
They just gave us another flamingo.
You're right, they could use the effort put in an asiatic lion on another chicken or another crane.
Can't wait for guineafowl and brolga.
New species >>>>>>> new subspecies
I know you're deliberately missing my point, but I'll explain it anyway:
If the flamingo is not a wasted slot, then neither would be an Asiatic lion.
But it would be imo. As @Mjmannella a species doesn’t equal a subspecies, and a group that is further under represented like birds could honestly use the clones over more cats… and not even a new species of cat at that
I mean, you gonna need to explain it further, cuz the analogy don't work for me, as the flamingo is neither a wasted slot (i would say unispired, but not wasted) nor is in the same baseline as the asian lion considering the flamingo is from a different species for a different continent while the Asiatic lion is just a population of lions.
So in the unlikely scenario DLC 20 is NOT the final pack...what would the reception be if they released a 7 animal pack of just clones/near clones, and then did DLC21 as a smaller pack (4 animals maybe) of more intricate animals?
Consider:
DLC 21: World Tour
Eurasian Otter
North American Black Bear
Grey Kangaroo
Nile Crocodile
Masai Giraffe
Asiatic Lion
Blackbuck
DLC 21: Finale
Coatimundi
Spider Monkey
Tree Kangaroo
Duck/Secretary Bird
Honestly I'd rather they just skip ahead to the finale and go with those 4 animals, or 5 if they include both birds. Then the American Black Bear for the anniversary. But I'd buy both.
Consider:
DLC 21: World Tour
Eurasian Otter
North American Black Bear
Grey Kangaroo
Nile Crocodile
Masai Giraffe
Asiatic Lion
Blackbuck
DLC 21: Finale
Coatimundi
Spider Monkey
Tree Kangaroo
Duck/Secretary Bird
Honestly I'd rather they just skip ahead to the finale and go with those 4 animals, or 5 if they include both birds. Then the American Black Bear for the anniversary. But I'd buy both.
Frontier chooses subspecies because they're easier to make than more different and complex species. They chose another flamingo over the spoonbill or ibis because it was easier. And with that said, if the flamingo is not considered a wasted slot, then how is Asiatic Lion a wasted slot? It does the exact same thing as the flamingo, improve the base model. If the flamingo was well recepted I don't see why the lion shouldn't get that same reaction.
Because it’s a bird (under represented) and a new species not just a subspecies. It’s not that hard
One that looks almost identical to one we already had just with different colours
Once again, they look the exact same. It doesn't matter if they aren't actually subspecies of one another, any casual player will see them as just 2 types of flamingos.
To be fair the group that doesn't really need clones right now is precisely birds. Birds are so behind in representation that we need a lot of unique ones rather than repeat types. I mean we still don't have a single stork, pelican, duck, goose, ibis, spoonbill, not to mention things like the secretary or the shoebill. Galliforms might be an exception to this since there are tons of very distinctive types (we have chicken and peafowl but things like pheasants, turkeys or guineafowls wouldn't feel like copy paste like the flamingo)
Taxonomic groups are important when discussing here because we just don’t have many birds in the game. It doesn’t matter if we get 3 more flamingos it’ll still be less than the amount of cat variety in the game for a group of animals that very much out numbers felids in real life zoos. Add on to that that we didn’t have ANY birds for the Americas and this makes it an even more crucial pick. The only reason for another POPULATION (not species) of lion is to have a better looking one. Meanwhile you had that + they’re underrepresented + location they’re from + a new species it really makes it no contest as to which is a a wasted slot vs which isn’t.
+ atleast the species of flamingo has different colors and looks vastly different from the greater flamingo. You couldn’t tell the difference between asiatic and African lions if someone didn’t tell you
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What has species/subspecies got to do with anything? It's an arbitrary distinction you're using to make yourself feel better about wanting one over the other even though they're functionally identical.
As said above, the distinction is arbitrary.
You don't actually have an argument. The only difference is that you wanted the flamingo and you don't want another lion.
Guess what? Some of us want another lion, and didn't want the flamingo. It's exactly the same.
You can if you cared enough to learn.
And you'll easily be able to tell the difference in-game - one is the old, crappy base game model, the other will be a new model that looks 100x better.
Edit: I'm now advocating for the Asiatic lion. Out of spite.
Look all I’m saying is for a pick to not be a “waste” it needs to have want behind it whether it’s for the animal itself or if it fills a certain niche. People requested the flamingo because the Americas lacked birds - sure I get that, makes sense. For the lion it serves a purpose of being a big upgrade to the African lion - that’s its purpose, a lot of people request the upgrade, so in my eyes, it’s not a waste.
Not to mention outside of the look being fairly similar and their population in zoos (which frontier has ignored every now and again) the Asiatic lion does differ with its habitat being more forests over grasslands and savanna’s. Plus, come on it would look pretty different to the African lion on size alone.
Not to mention outside of the look being fairly similar and their population in zoos (which frontier has ignored every now and again) the Asiatic lion does differ with its habitat being more forests over grasslands and savanna’s. Plus, come on it would look pretty different to the African lion on size alone.
That’s fine if you want them. No one’s telling you not too. In my original post I said IMO. But the only way to have a tangible comparison and conversation that isn’t arbitrary is to add those criteria. The fact remains that there are less birds than cats. The fact remains that the American Flamingo is a different species than the Greater. The fact remains that there was no American birds and now there are. The only way to have a conversation is with the criteria.
I mean, i can tell the difference between the flamingos, i can't say the same about the lions.
Also, tecnically the asiatic lion already is ingame, the ingame lion map includes the India range and the scientific name matches, so...