I guess I agree with this. I paid sixty bucks for a flagrantly unfinished product, the only guilt I feel toward giving money to their advertiser too is centered around the fact that I took a risk on paying an AAA+ price tag and once again let myself get duped into a doing this.
This game should have been up on Steam as an Early Access title if the company is concerned with generating future revenue for development. Instead they purvey it as a finished product, and it takes relatively little playtime to realize that if this is all it will ever be, it's either not finished or is a very poor finished product----I'd prefer to believe the former because the potential is astonishing.
That doesn't wash. The game was NDA-free from day 1 of its alpha in Dec '13, every milestone was reviewed, there were thousands of videos on YT way before release.
If you pre-order that's your risk, if you don't do your homework that's your risk. This wasn't some closed door development with the occasional marketing bullshots.
Well that is crap, I get if a customer bought the game initially through Steam, but legacy customers? Even if they buy through the FD store and not Steam?
I guess I agree with this. I paid sixty bucks for a flagrantly unfinished product, the only guilt I feel toward giving money to their advertiser too is centered around the fact that I took a risk on paying an AAA+ price tag and once again let myself get duped into a doing this.
me and my friend both did steam keys and would gladly do it again even know this this whole thread doing nothing but trying to make ppl feel bad for using one if steam was taking 75% of a cut then i could get this thread but 30% off a 17$ paint job give me a brake..........
Do you think Steam do enough work to earn their $5.10 for that paintjob? Do you not think that would be better going to future development?
For me the situation is simple.I have acquired the expansion pack during the kickstarter. But it's a good thing that ED is on Steam. Because Steam is a showcase for the game
NO ONE is trying to making anyone feel bad for getting a Steam key. At least I'm not: I just want to be sure people get a Steam key after knowing ALL the facts. It's then up to them if they still wish to get a key.me and my friend both did steam keys and would gladly do it again even know this this whole thread doing nothing but trying to make ppl feel bad for using one if steam was taking 75% of a cut then i could get this thread but 30% off a 17$ paint job give me a brake..........
That doesn't wash. The game was NDA-free from day 1 of its alpha in Dec '13, every milestone was reviewed, there were thousands of videos on YT way before release.
If you pre-order that's your risk, if you don't do your homework that's your risk. This wasn't some closed door development with the occasional marketing bullshots.
I did my homework, thanks. Fanbois have pumped up the Steam review to the point that it is outright fiction, YouTube videos are not made with a portrayal of a poor or unfinished product. Consumers are notoriously biased as either drastically vapid fanbois or purely negative. Nary a review site exists at this point that isn't flagrantly bribed---virtually all of them gush over titles who have obviously paid for a good review or panned it based on a lack of kickback. Because of this any homework done still carries a significant risk.
There is no reason I should have to review a video game product to a degree greater than a new car purchase in order to determine whether or not they are charging full finished price for an unfinished product anyway. It's been a bane in this industry for two decades at this point and still happens. The fact that anyone believes you SHOULD have to do such a thing just underscores how brainwashed the masses have become to this accepting this practice.
It's not finished, threads like this back that up---even those desperate to "support the developers" do so because they are worrying about developer dollars because they want them to finish the thing. Early Access is the Steam category for knowingly purchasing unfinished games. It's existence is intended to display an honest representation of what you are purchasing WITHOUT doing an idiotic amount of research just to determine if a developer bothered to finish their product or not before release. It's where this should have been placed when it went on there.
But all of this is ok, and you are absolutely right---I did carry the risk all on my own, accepted it and own it. But I'm not going to blow sunshine and rainbows up anybodies tailpipe. I took the risk and wound up with less than I'd hoped for, and believe that though an option existed to be up front with me, through a certain level of dishonesty it was not taken. As such, I'm entirely unconcerned about an commissions incurred over the course of attempting to market a product.
Yes, that is indeed what Ed's post seems to infer. All future purchases regardless of purchase location will result in a cut going to Valve if you create a steam key.
me and my friend both did steam keys and would gladly do it again even know this this whole thread doing nothing but trying to make ppl feel bad for using one if steam was taking 75% of a cut then i could get this thread but 30% off a 17$ paint job give me a brake..........
speaking of reviews im not going to recommend this game on steam just because of this thread and how alot are up in arms over a 30% cut before this thread i would have gladly recommend this game even bought it for my long time friend but not any more