Does ED favor griefing/exploits?

[Amaze]

Im guessing so, since they just deleted that video thread with the evidence. I guess you can get away with anything? No offence meant, just my personal opinion. I love ED, hate people who ruin it for others..

Its almost like the thread did the logoffski maneuver.

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

Its almost like the thread did the logoffski maneuver.

Iron Eeeee

 

[Tas Devil]

I think it demonstrates that even if you provide hard evidence that somebody is exploiting/griefing, that Frontier aren't interested, and would rather brush it under the carpet,

RIP any hope of them fixing it then.

Whether a name was shown or not - that doesn't actually alter the reality of what's going on does it, and it certainly isn't someone just making up accusations without any grounds - it was there for all to see, is still there - and is on other forums and reddit..

I think it demonstrates that your intend and purpose was to name and shame not really report the player.

If you really wanted to report the player you can do so in game with all the evidence you want.

 

[Sexydino]

This isnt the place to provide your evidence - the ticket system is there for that.

oh ok, we'll all just stay quiet - GL with that then

I think you'll find the guy has been reported *quite* a few times, and is still happily exploiting and griefing.

 

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[CMDR Sheehy]

oh ok, we'll all just stay quiet - GL with that then

I think you'll find the guy has been reported *quite* a few times, and is still happily exploiting and griefing.

What I like about people like that, is the amount of rope they gather to hang themselves with... er, metaphorically I mean.

 

[Sexydino]

I think iot demonstrates that your intend and purpose was to name and shame not really report the player.

If you really wanted to report the player you can do so in game with all the evidence you want.

It wasn't my intended purpose at all - I had no reason to, i've never seen him game before.

The purpose was to get an answer from FD relating to the griefing - and whether this is accepted gameplay or not, I don't care whether his name appears in the video or not, I want to know if this is sort of thing is *OK* or whether it's going to get sorted.

Then there was some very real and obvious evidence of him exploiting - which according to the rules is OK to post video evidence of, but it seems that FD now no longer class logging as an exploit, so idk anymore.

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

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Then there was some very real and obvious evidence of him exploiting - which according to the rules is OK to post video evidence of, but it seems that FD now no longer class logging as an exploit, so idk anymore.

They do, as I posted of Sandro, consider logging as an exploit? When did that change?

 

[Vandaahl]

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[Sexydino]

They do, as I posted of Sandro, consider logging as an exploit? When did that change?

*shrugs*

I guess they just don't like drama on forums I just got a friendly PM from the mods saying "please don't name and shame" so whatever, I guess enough people saw it anyway - and also without a single comment from anyone at frontier, people might be wondering what the future holds for people who do this sort of thing,

I imagine these people are laughing quite hard now, which is a shame I guess - but I've played CS and other comp games for years, so I'm used to seeing annoying players in games

 

[Tas Devil]

It wasn't my intended purpose at all - I had no reason to, i've never seen him game before.

The purpose was to get an answer from FD relating to the griefing - and whether this is accepted gameplay or not, I don't care whether his name appears in the video or not, I want to know if this is sort of thing is *OK* or whether it's going to get sorted.

Then there was some very real and obvious evidence of him exploiting - which according to the rules is OK to post video evidence of, but it seems that FD now no longer class logging as an exploit, so idk anymore.

OK, I'm going to go slow to help you comprehend my answer one more time.

1. If you have not been a victim of this CMDR in game what is it you are reporting ? If you have evidence of him playing the logoffski F4 you report it within the player reporting facility in game with your evidence.

No need to post on the forums about it.

2. You know damn well this is not acceptable gameplay since a feature of the 1.1 patch was to nerf rockets to avoid this exact type of griefing in station and to address the point defence turret exploit which helped this griefing. The videos you posted dated from before the patch... what's the point in doing that ?

3. His name appeared in the video. The forum has specific rules about not naming and shaming. What part can you possibly not comprehend.

4. I doubt 1 occurrence of him logging off will be punishable. If you have evidence of him doing so frequently pass it on to FD using the technique suggested in 1. above. But again sicne you claim you've never seen this guy in game, I can't help but wonder what you're up to...

 

[Ian Phillips]

I think it demonstrates that even if you provide hard evidence that somebody is exploiting/griefing, that Frontier aren't interested, and would rather brush it under the carpet,

RIP any hope of them fixing it then.

Whether a name was shown or not - that doesn't actually alter the reality of what's going on does it, and it certainly isn't someone just making up accusations without any grounds - it was there for all to see, is still there - and is on other forums and reddit..

Right lets clear something up.
1) Moderators are not FD employees.
2) if you have an issue with the GAME or someones actions in THE GAME you can a) block them; b) report the CMDR; c) put in a ticket (with links to your video evidence)
3) there are forum rules - which are by now well known - about naming and shaming. - Don't.

 

[CMDR Holy Hitman]

OK, I'm going to go slow to help you comprehend my answer one more time.

1. If you have not been a victim of this CMDR in game what is it you are reporting ? If you have evidence of him playing the logoffski F4 you report it within the player reporting facility in game with your evidence.

No need to post on the forums about it.

2. You know damn well this is not acceptable gameplay since a feature of the 1.1 patch was to nerf rockets to avoid this exact type of griefing in station and to address the point defence turret exploit which helped this griefing. The videos you posted dated from before the patch... what's the point in doing that ?

3. His name appeared in the video. The forum has specific rules about not naming and shaming. What part can you possibly not comprehend.

4. I doubt 1 occurrence of him logging off will be punishable. If you have evidence of him doing so frequently pass it on to FD using the technique suggested in 1. above. But again sicne you claim you've never seen this guy in game, I can't help but wonder what you're up to...

THIS +1

trying to get around forum shaming rules by using links fail. -1

 

[Krepose Gavayne]

This isnt the place to provide your evidence - the ticket system is there for that.

Are you the "TC has gone offline" person?

Just askin'...

 

[Sexydino]

OK, I'm going to go slow to help you comprehend my answer one more time.

1. If you have not been a victim of this CMDR in game what is it you are reporting ? If you have evidence of him playing the logoffski F4 you report it within the player reporting facility in game with your evidence.

No need to post on the forums about it.

2. You know damn well this is not acceptable gameplay since a feature of the 1.1 patch was to nerf rockets to avoid this exact type of griefing in station and to address the point defence turret exploit which helped this griefing. The videos you posted dated from before the patch... what's the point in doing that ?

3. His name appeared in the video. The forum has specific rules about not naming and shaming. What part can you possibly not comprehend.

4. I doubt 1 occurrence of him logging off will be punishable. If you have evidence of him doing so frequently pass it on to FD using the technique suggested in 1. above. But again sicne you claim you've never seen this guy in game, I can't help but wonder what you're up to...

The issue is nothing to do with the name of the guy - what ship he's flying, whether he's killed me or anybody else.

The issue is - does Frontier accept griefing as a valid form of gameplay? really really simple, and this exact question was in the OP of the thread that got deleted.

That's what I want to know - is it acceptable to do or not? if someone can say - maybe it would help.............................

 

[NeoRacer_XOX]

Inside a station?? LOL

Their official stance is that killing someone in multiplayer is not griefing (source). Pretty much like almost every multiplayer videogame in the history of the world.

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The video I saw was he was inside a station I dont think that is legit..

The issue is nothing to do with the name of the guy - what ship he's flying, whether he's killed me or anybody else.

The issue is - does Frontier accept griefing as a valid form of gameplay? really really simple, and this exact question was in the OP of the thread that got deleted.

That's what I want to know - is it acceptable to do or not? if someone can say - maybe it would help.............................

 

[AnnuverScotinExile]

It wasn't my intended purpose at all - I had no reason to, i've never seen him game before.

The purpose was to get an answer from FD relating to the griefing - and whether this is accepted gameplay or not, I don't care whether his name appears in the video or not, I want to know if this is sort of thing is *OK* or whether it's going to get sorted.

Then there was some very real and obvious evidence of him exploiting - which according to the rules is OK to post video evidence of, but it seems that FD now no longer class logging as an exploit, so idk anymore.

STILL NOT TRUE. How many more times?

What Edward said is that it is fine to post a video on youtube, and link to it when you report someone. He DID NOT say that it is OK to link to it in here.

 

[Quineloe]

something something naming and shaming.

to be fair, when we have multiple videos of the same wanted commander combat logging over and over for weeks now, is it really a surprise people move on from reporting him to naming and shaming?


If my opponent were constantly cheating, and reporting him did nothing, then the admins might as well ban me instead, because either way it's not worth playing.

 

[Tas Devil]

The issue is nothing to do with the name of the guy - what ship he's flying, whether he's killed me or anybody else.

The issue is - does Frontier accept griefing as a valid form of gameplay? really really simple, and this exact question was in the OP of the thread that got deleted.

That's what I want to know - is it acceptable to do or not? if someone can say - maybe it would help.............................

Sorry I can't help you. And I doubt anyone will help you either.

It is very very hard to wake up someone who pretends to sleep.

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

Combat Logging is an Exploit.

Murder is acceptable in game.

Murder is not Griefing.

Griefing (using game mechanics in a way not intended to set others back/deny others - Like Combat Logging) is a long term issue that FDev will deal with in their own time. According to them, it is not acceptable. Not all Murder is Griefing. Obviously they didn't like what was going on in stations and they changed the mechanics to cover that, so one could easily assume that they were not okay with what was happening.