ED and the Oculus Rift Developers Kit 2 (DK2) Discussion Thread

[CATPAIN KIRK]

A lot depends on where you are, what ship you are in, what kind of station you are in.
Some ships hit performance a bit. Biggest ship I've had is a Lakon 6 and it was the worst performer or least sharing worst with the Cobra. Sidies are ok as are Eagles and Vipers, Haulers are somewhere in in the middle.

Some stations hit performance more than others do. The more complex the worse the performance.

Where you are also makes a difference. Station entrances seem the worst in my experience.

Running the game well in deep space with certain ships is one thing, trying to get a minimum 75fps all the time (which is what you want) is another thing entirely even with high end hardware.

Hopefully performance will improve as time goes on with help from FD, OVR and the GPU companies.

Of course you're right - to have at least some minor level of reproducibility and eliminate factors as varying cockpit geometry and more complex geometry being more or less obscured by them, all my benchmarks were measures of docking and undocking in the tutorial, doing roughly the same and measuring for a predefined timeframe.

I'll probably test a little more with different ships and situations, but so far, I haven't noticed any major drops in beta 2.x (currently in a Cobra).

 

[cmdr awesome]

The UI select key, move the 4 arrow icon to the star and press the UI select key.

Sorry - not quite sure I understand that one.
I can navigate the left side menu on the galaxy map with the UI select controls, but don't seem to have a 4 arrow icon. Click and drag with the trackball lets me move the map around, but inside the rift its virtually impossible to click on a star and I can't find a way to select a star without the trackball.

 

[Pannad]

Well I got my OR last Tuesday and got it all set up and working without too much hassle, had a great evening playing with ED and other demos.

Then the next morning some tool ran into the back of me on the motorway, giving me a pulled muscle in my neck and mild whiplash. Since then ED has been a bit of a painful experience

But I have been told that gentle exercise would be good, so time to do some more flying I think. Just need to take it easy on the combat!

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[Mark D]

..... giving me a pulled muscle in my neck and mild whiplash. Since then ED has been a bit of a painful experience ....

Sorry to hear that, get well soon.

 

[Gilmir]

Sorry - not quite sure I understand that one.
I can navigate the left side menu on the galaxy map with the UI select controls, but don't seem to have a 4 arrow icon. Click and drag with the trackball lets me move the map around, but inside the rift its virtually impossible to click on a star and I can't find a way to select a star without the trackball.

To get the "icon" (or actually the cursor for the 3D GalMap), you have to tilt your viewpoint at least slightly by using the "pitch" of the map.
For me personally it works with a map "tilted" at least 45 degrees, but it's a question of personal preference, I suppose.
Then, you move the cursor with the six translation bindings (axes or buttons). and select with the UI select button.
I'm not 100% sure (haven't played for two days because of a back problem and am murdering orcs on my TV instead ), but using the UI move buttons changes the focus of selection to the map UI.

 

[Nomadski]

Where is a good, up to date guide for the currents build in setting up the OR for ED?

Cant seem to get beyond the graphics menu, which is split in half and the right side is on the left, and the left side is on the right...

I tried launching the game, but the head tracking isn't working, the screen just moves in unison with my head...

Its truly a pain to get going in many demos Ive found, but the one I really want to get going I just cant get working.

Have tried drive mode extended, and using as secondary monitor in Nvidia settings, but without being able to see the graphics menu properly am finding it really hard to get the right settings.

Tried Side By Side in that menu but that resulted in the aforementioned lack of head tracking, the Oculus Rift (Headphones) and Oculus Rift (Speakers) setting seems to result in a black screen...

Arrgh.

 

[Adam Lusardi]

Extended with OR speakers is correct.

 

[Sanderson]

Where is a good, up to date guide for the currents build in setting up the OR for ED?

Cant seem to get beyond the graphics menu, which is split in half and the right side is on the left, and the left side is on the right...

I tried launching the game, but the head tracking isn't working, the screen just moves in unison with my head...

Its truly a pain to get going in many demos Ive found, but the one I really want to get going I just cant get working.

Have tried drive mode extended, and using as secondary monitor in Nvidia settings, but without being able to see the graphics menu properly am finding it really hard to get the right settings.

Tried Side By Side in that menu but that resulted in the aforementioned lack of head tracking, the Oculus Rift (Headphones) and Oculus Rift (Speakers) setting seems to result in a black screen...

Arrgh.

close one eye, go to graphic options in ED and set for secondary monitor and OCR headphone. Make sure OCR is set to extended.

 

[STABB666]

Waiting for this is worse than Christmas as a five year old.

I ordered Sep 21st and they haven't even confirmed yet. Not a happy camper.

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[Nomadski]

Extended with OR speakers is correct.

close one eye, go to graphic options in ED and set for secondary monitor and OCR headphone. Make sure OCR is set to extended.

Cheers. Im sure I selected this last time and I just got a black screen.

First time I tried ED CTD'd, second time it worked and head tracking became a 'thing'.

Everything ran smooth in the training sections, will see how ti runs in the game proper and if its as smooth will try popping some settings back up to medium or so.

Do people have NVidia settings overriding anything in ED? Ive read AA Adaptive should be selected in Nvidias Control Panel, but then others say disable AA?

Quite bad CA ingame, but framerate is smooth and was pretty decent.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Cheers. Im sure I selected this last time and I just got a black screen.

First time I tried ED CTD'd, second time it worked and head tracking became a 'thing'.

Everything ran smooth in the training sections, will see how ti runs in the game proper and if its as smooth will try popping some settings back up to medium or so.

Do people have NVidia settings overriding anything in ED? Ive read AA Adaptive should be selected in Nvidias Control Panel, but then others say disable AA?

Quite bad CA ingame, but framerate is smooth and was pretty decent.

The only difference between speakers and headphones settings is the fact that using headphones, the game will need to rotate the soundscape to match the head position, whereas that isn't necessary when using speakers for obvious reasons.

Did you mean Vsync instead of AA? - anyway - I've forced that to be adaptive using NVidia inspector (just as I have AFR 2 forced on to enable SLI).

 

[Nomadski]

The only difference between speakers and headphones settings is the fact that using headphones, the game will need to rotate the soundscape to match the head position, whereas that isn't necessary when using speakers for obvious reasons.

Did you mean Vsync instead of AA? - anyway - I've forced that to be adaptive using NVidia inspector (just as I have AFR 2 forced on to enable SLI).

Sorry, yes I mean VSync.

Makes sense about the headphones, thanks for the explanation, seems obvious now. Wonder why it didn't work first time I tried though.

Do you have AA on at all? Selected ingame or using Nvidia Control Panel?

Really unsure if I should be forcing anything thru from the control panel, or just selecting and deselecting everything ingame.

BTW the Sidewinder feels freaking HUGE with the DK2 on!

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Do you have AA on at all? Selected ingame or using Nvidia Control Panel?

Really unsure if I should be forcing anything thru from the control panel, or just selecting and deselecting everything ingame.

BTW the Sidewinder feels freaking HUGE with the DK2 on!

I have AA disabled - however I've only tried FXAA, didn't see a major difference in quality and on my system, it's just that little setting that needs to be turned off to get stable 75 FPS, so it's mostly turned off due to performance limitations (My PC is turning three soon).

Edit: Considering Vsync, turning it off yields the best overall FPS, but it leads to vertical tearing for me, forcing it on (standard - not adaptive) hurts my FPS, so I've found adaptive to be the best compromise, but experiences may vary depending on the system and individual, hence you'll often read conflicting views on what's best.

Personally, since I need NVidia inspector to set the proper SLI compatibility bits anyway, I do most of the settings there (just to have them all in one place) - for most general settings, you should be fine with the ingame settings (except for vsync settings iirc).

And yeah - the sense of scale is amazing - I have the camera mounted way out in front and above me so I have a really large capture volume - allows me to walk around in the cockpit as far as the rifts cable allows me to - stunning experience.

 

[Ref Minor]

I ordered Sep 21st and they haven't even confirmed yet. Not a happy camper.

Lol, 3 weeks of waiting and you just miss out on a batch, 90% of the people above you in that list waited 8 weeks or more before turning yellow. Have patience, and savour the future coming your way.

 

[STABB666]

Must stop spending money...

Lol, 3 weeks of waiting and you just miss out on a batch, 90% of the people above you in that list waited 8 weeks or more before turning yellow. Have patience, and savour the future coming your way.

8 weeks? 8 weeks...eight...weeks. Can't tell if angry...or depressed. I shall go shopping for a 4k TV to salve my pain.

 

[Adam Lusardi]

Cheers. Im sure I selected this last time and I just got a black screen.

First time I tried ED CTD'd, second time it worked and head tracking became a 'thing'.

Everything ran smooth in the training sections, will see how ti runs in the game proper and if its as smooth will try popping some settings back up to medium or so.

Do people have NVidia settings overriding anything in ED? Ive read AA Adaptive should be selected in Nvidias Control Panel, but then others say disable AA?

Quite bad CA ingame, but framerate is smooth and was pretty decent.

Glad you got in sorry about the short response before on the mobile.
I have AA off and blur off, rest at max. :smilie:
Sometimes takes a restart or two!

 

[el_tel]

Interesting article on the BBC website for Rift fans:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29704953

 

[dtt255]

Got this just now:

"You're receiving this email because your Oculus Order #CM-XXXXXXX is about to ship. Since the full balance has been paid, you should not see any additional charges."

YAHOO!!!!

 

[Jim Chapman]

Package arrived at my home; I am at work. Kids very excited, because they know what is in the box. Wife a bit perplexed, because she does not.
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[Georgio]

Package arrived at my home; I am at work. Kids very excited, because they know what is in the box. Wife a bit perplexed, because she does not.

Lol reminds me of someone at work who was terrified to tell his wife that he'd bought a new car, so bought the exact same model, same colour, same trim level, everything except the new one was diesel and the old was petrol.

Cue wife borrowing the car and somehow shoe-horning a tank of petrol into a diesel spout...ouch!

Regarding the rift, set it up, stick it on her with Alien Isolation running; she won't bother you again...