ED and the Oculus Rift Developers Kit 2 (DK2) Discussion Thread

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I was getting a bit worried the list had stalled. Your updates have given me hope most of June entries could turn yellow this week (might be a bit over optimistic) :cool:

TOTAL SHIPPED // COVERS UNITS ORDERED PRIOR TO // SHOULD SHIP BY
• 16,000 // Mar 22nd // Aug 9th
• 23,000 // Mar 27th/28 // Aug 16th
• 30,000 // April 18th // Aug 23rd
• 37,000 // May 19/20 // Aug 30th
• 44,000 // June 26/27th // Sep 6th
• 51,000 // Beyond June 30th // Sep 13th
• 58,000 // ???? // Sep 20th
 
yeah there was labour day holiday in the us i believe..
but i have already seen June 19 (edit: netherlands) pass by within 2 hours so perhaps it will move deep into July

I was getting a bit worried the list had stalled. Your updates have given me hope most of June entries could turn yellow this week (might be a bit over optimistic) :cool:

TOTAL SHIPPED // COVERS UNITS ORDERED PRIOR TO // SHOULD SHIP BY
• 16,000 // Mar 22nd // Aug 9th
• 23,000 // Mar 27th/28 // Aug 16th
• 30,000 // April 18th // Aug 23rd
• 37,000 // May 19/20 // Aug 30th
• 44,000 // June 26/27th // Sep 6th
• 51,000 // Beyond June 30th // Sep 13th
• 58,000 // ???? // Sep 20th
 
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Just got notified that mine is preparing to ship. :)
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Just putting my order in it's place

Our lass finally caved in. get to get a new PC when OR arrives, She must really love me
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Okay, I loaded up the latest Leap Motion SDK with my Leap Motion and I just could not get the hand detection to work very well. I imagine myself crashing much more with that then with even a keyboard. It has a long ways to go before I'd trust it for any ship piloting or even urgent button pressing needs.

I wouldn't have thought so, as it specifically mentions the Rift. It would be great if my hand positions were replicated in VR.

Then the only thing missing would be a virtual keyboard, so I could use the galaxy map search function without having to lift the Rift up.

It's an odd coincidence, but I spoke to a couple of the devs at LaveCon 2014 and said how great it was if E:D supported VR gloves.

They did look a little scared when I said it though, because I was asking for the impossible. However, I did say not to worry, because I doubt the technology even exists yet, but just to make it a consideration for the future.

Well it seems the future is almost here, so...
 
Sadly had to cancel my order today, circumstances mean I'm not going to have the time to work with it for the next few months. I'm going to hang on for the CV1.

Of course Sod's Law says I got the shipping notice within a couple of minutes of contacting support for the cancellation!
 
You probably could have sold it straight on at no loss to be honest. Shame, it's really good :)

Sure I could have, simpler this way and everyone else gets to jump up the queue. I have a project I really should prioritise over the DK2, itt was an immense display of discipline on my part to cancel it!

It's also partly because I've parked ED for now, probably until release. I might pick up a used one cheap when the CV1 becomes imminent :)
 
I've had my DK2 a week now and I still can't get it to work properly.

<<snip>>

I've looked for days for a solution and spent hours looking at my screen sideways and upside down. I've got the Rift set as the left display, I've switched it to portrait in Nvidia settings, tried various resolutions, tried the screens extended and duplicated, just can't seem to get it right.

I have Bilagos utility and starting direct to rift doesn't seem to work either. I feel like I'm missing something obvious but can't work it out.

HELP please.

I have Windows 8.1
GTX 770

For ED, I found I had to actually unplug the USB lead from the Oculus camera (as well as stopping services etc) and then it suddenly started working when Extended Mode was setup properly.

But Extended Mode is a pain (2560x1440@96Hz primary, 1920x1080@60Hz max secondary) as Windows is a pig for changing all the screen configs at once, so I'm just running the Direct demos that I can get to work (for me, the trick was using Bilago's launcher and I must force the graphics to D3D11 Unity to get them to work).

So I've decided to wait for the next release of the Oculus SDK as I believe Frontier are waiting for a couple of bugfixes before they release a DirectMode version, and so when the new SDK comes out, and the next Beta after that, then I'll go back into ED.
 
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wow that went fast :D
 
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For people saying you need a massively high-powered rig to have Elite: Dangerous run smoothly with the Oculus Rift DK2.... it simply isn't true!

I'm on Windows 7, and have an i7-920 CPU, 6GB RAM, and a GTX 580. Nothing is overclocked.
I'm able to run E:D at 75fps with no juddering and very, very few framedrops.

How?
By configuring the settings on your computer properly!!!

Here is what I did:
-Power on DK2, make sure it is in extended mode on Oculus Config util.
-Launch E:D, go to graphics options, and set it to the Rift mode with 75Hz. Put all settings on LOW, with Antialiasing, Anisotropic, and Ambient Occlusion all off (you should only have to do this once, it will have the same settings every other time you launch the game).
-Right-click on desktop and go into the Nvidia Control Panel.
-Make sure DK2 is set at 1920x1080, 75Hz on the resolution settings.
-Go to Manage 3D settings, global tab. Set VSync to ON, Triple Buffering to ON, Set Antialiasing, Anisotropic, and Ambient Occlusion all to OFF.
-Go to Program Settings Tab, Browse to find elitedangerous.exe (The actual game exe, not the launcher exe). Set to the same settings as above.
-Go to Start -> Control Panel -> Personalization, and set the Windows theme to Basic (this is VERY important).
-Open task manager, and kill wscript and OVRService_x64
-Open the E:D launcher, login, but do not hit "Play" yet. Place the E:D launcher window on your screen so that if you were to view it on your DK2, it would be over the left eye.
-Right click on desktop background, and go to Screen Resolution
-Set Display to the DK2, and for the Desktop to only show on the DK2. Screen rotated to proper orientation on DK2. Place the "OK" button on the screen so that you will see it with your right eye on the DK2.
-Hit OK, your monitor will turn off. Look into the DK2 right eyepiece and move your mouse and click the "Keep settings" button before it times out.
-Look in left eyepiece, click on "Play" button on E:D launcher
-After the logo plays, hit F12 to reset position.
-Get flying!!! :D

Note that I was getting some juddering with Windows in Aero mode, and with my main monitor still on and showing the desktop (even with DK2 as primary monitor). Changing those gave huge performance gains.

I would bet that with these settings, even someone with a GTX 480 or maybe lower can get buttery-smooth DK2 E:D performance.

Also, running everything on low does not make the visuals look like crap in E:D. With the still low-resolution of the DK2 and its screendoor effect, it is hard to tell the difference between high and low in the DK2.

People have probably posted settings settings similar to these already... I'm just confirming it does really help :D
 
VSYNC alternative!

Nvidia graphics card owners running the latest drivers can find an Adaptive Vertical Synchronization option under the 'Vertical Sync' setting in the Nvidia Control Panel. When Adaptive is chosen, VSync will only be enabled whenever your FPS exceeds your Refresh Rate. If your FPS falls below your refresh rate at any time, VSync is instantly disabled. This provides an excellent compromise between performance and removing most tearing. However it can still introduce some mouse lag.

I did this, along with the numerous other tips people have suggested here and on reddit (e.g., drop the primary monitor resolution and increase its refresh rate to 75 hz, disable aero) and all told it's increased my FPS in starports by about 20 (from high 30's to high 50's). Still a bit choppy, but hugely improved. Gives me hope that with continued improvements in the OR drivers and the ED implementation we may be yet able to hit continuous 75 FPS, even with a mediocre graphics card like mine (GTX 760).
 
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08/08/2014 @ 14:13 PDT - Ceud
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