Elite dangerous and bug/ch abusing has gone to next level.

Should discovered byu tags be removed from m67 star cluster

  • Yes, becasue there is no way with in game mechanics to achieve this

    Votes: 371 52.9%
  • No, let them keep them.

    Votes: 74 10.6%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 163 23.3%
  • replace the tags with "discovered by distant star expedition" tag.

    Votes: 93 13.3%

  • Total voters
    701
  • Poll closed .
Thanks. Looks like they changed that then. It used to be it wasn't possible to scan them.

I think we need to now wait and see what the results of Brett's investigation are. I'm still fine with it happening, i've got nothing wrong with FD recognizing special achievements in a special way. But if it was a mistake by support, people can at least put their pitchforks away.

They haven't changed it, this was simply an unintended consequence of FD helping players out after a bug by moving their location.
 
Thanks. Looks like they changed that then. It used to be it wasn't possible to scan them.

I think we need to now wait and see what the results of Brett's investigation are. I'm still fine with it happening, i've got nothing wrong with FD recognizing special achievements in a special way. But if it was a mistake by support, people can at least put their pitchforks away.
A bit of pitchforking is a great way to spend a friday at work.
 
Thanks. Looks like they changed that then. It used to be it wasn't possible to scan them.

I think we need to now wait and see what the results of Brett's investigation are.

Yes I'm waiting for that.

I'm still fine with it happening, i've got nothing wrong with FD recognizing special achievements in a special way.

I disagree with that - game has rules. Exploration is pretty neglected enough as it is in this game. One of the rules for exploration is "if you can't return with the data you don't get the plaudits". If an explorer has chosen to go explore an area of the galaxy knowing full well it's going to be a one way trip, only then to have the Hand Of God magically move them to where they can return to sell their data - then that, for me, is just not on.

I'm not a great believer in getting a Participation Medal.



But if it was a mistake by support, people can at least put their pitchforks away.

Agreed. This will probably be nothing more than Support being their usual and awesome super-eager to help a player in trouble. In which case all the discovered-by tags should be erased from history.
 
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Before everyone goes on kicking and screaming that Frontier enabled players to "cheat the system" I'd like to point something out.

It is quite possible that the discovery tags belong to players who experienced legitimate bugs while in the cluster. If these bugs were severe enough to prevent the individual from being able to play the game (such as a bug preventing CMDR data from loading) then that person would have opened a legitimate ticket to request Frontier fix their problem. Frontier's standard procedure, iirc, in such an instance would be to move the player to safe location which is usually a starport.

If this is the case then one can hardly fault Frontier or the player.
 
Before everyone goes on kicking and screaming that Frontier enabled players to "cheat the system" I'd like to point something out.

It is quite possible that the discovery tags belong to players who experienced legitimate bugs while in the cluster. If these bugs were severe enough to prevent the individual from being able to play the game (such as a bug preventing CMDR data from loading) then that person would have opened a legitimate ticket to request Frontier fix their problem. Frontier's standard procedure, iirc, in such an instance would be to move the player to safe location which is usually a starport.

If this is the case then one can hardly fault Frontier or the player.

I totally agree - and in that case the discovery tags should be removed.
 
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Seems like, FDEV support moved player to saved station due to bug.

Well this ain't right, we all self-destruct ourself there.
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I totally agree - and in that case the discovery tags should be removed.

Agree. None of this is "malicious", by FD or the players, it's just an unintended consequence of a support ticket. Although, the players could have chosen to destroy their data by self-destructing (that's what I would have done).
 
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Although I see the difference with the support hopping in, I wish people would be this upset about any of the 1000 other unfair and unintended ways people get rich or kill other players via various exploits on a daily basis...

lol

are you serious? there are loads of threads about many of the "exploits" in ED.. I know as i usually moan about them :D

(I use exploits in " " because some have argued that its intended in the design and i cant prove otherwise)
 
Last couple months we have seen many chases were abusing bugs etc. have been used by players to get benefits etc. For example the stacking massacre missions and killing skimmers to achieve high cr/h. CGs that require people to log in and out off the game to respawn stuff so they can have change to get to top spots on CGs. I really don't care about this but would prefer is this wouldn't effect CGs or story related stuff but everyone can stack and log off grind missions to get a lot of cr as much they want and i don't care. But all these can be seen as unintended stuff, not as stuff that frontier has decided to do or be features or mechanics of the game.

Now, however frontier support have joined to help players to get stuff that can't get or do in game. Most of you probably know distant star expedition. Players went to star cluster high above the galaxy, and with in game methods its one way trip as you need to do 219 ly jump to be able to enter the cluster. This mean there is no way player can get back to the bubble with exploration data to sell it and claim systems, stars or planets and tag them. Today logged in to the game in the cluster and see discovered by tags on planets, so i go to distant stars discord and ask if someone found way to get back home. The answer is no, there still is no way back to home. The answer i get is really shocking Frontier support have moved people from cluster back to systems were they can travel back to bubble and sell their data and get discovered by tag with their name on these systems. This is not bug or ch, frontier support have helped players to achieve stuff that is impossible to do in game. This feel very lame that frontier help people to cheat in game mechanics and rules. They should have at least removed the exploration data from these people when they moved them. This stuff is not acceptable, bugs and mechanics abusing i can understand (i would prefer t to not effect other player as much) but support doing that stuff? Why would they undermine their own game and community?

Should frontier remove these discovered by xxxx player tags from these systems in m67 star cluster as there is no way (other than support move you out there) to get those tags? This not following the rules of game start to go too far now that frontier support has taken part to it

They can now be returned from!

Somebody found a trick where you can get 2 neutron star boosts from 1 neutron star by flying through the cone whilst the FSD is counting down to enter the next system with a boost already in the tank.

Not sure if anyone said but made it big enough to get peoples attention, sorry if it was too big :)

In short I don't think this was a support action but maybe Brett C can confirm.
 
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Frontier's standard procedure, iirc, in such an instance would be to move the player to safe location which is usually a starport.

Been caught in the NS bug where I was insta-pulled into the middle of a cone in normal space, and has happened multiple times to a friend of mine.

In all instances the ships were repaired and returned to a safe point within the system.

I see no reason at all explorer ships in deep space would be ported back to the bubble because of a bug. To the majority of explorers this could be weeks of travelling down the drain.

This would therefore be either a deliberate concession, or someone at FD decided the explored region was intended to allow travel back and is therefore bugged.

Weak argument on both sides to be honest.


They can now be returned from!


This has been mentioned previously but was pointed out in the explored region in question, there are no neutron starss available to get back once you're in deep enough.


Do you have information to the contrary on that?
 
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Although I see the difference with the support hopping in, I wish people would be this upset about any of the 1000 other unfair and unintended ways people get rich or kill other players via various exploits on a daily basis...

I really don't care about the tags, i care about what frontier support has done (if the case is that there is way back then nothing wrong) but if support do this kind of stuff then players will try abuse it more and more. I wouldn't care that support move them out there if they would have lost that exploration data. Support shouldn't make possible for players do things that are impossible other vise. Its actually good that this came up with this chase instead of some competition or bgs battle between two player factions etc. This isn't that important case, but it means players will start to get advance by abusing support. This could have impact to colonia competition cg if support doesn't check what players have done between dying and them moving them. I wouldn't be surprised if this has already happened.

I hope the support will make sure that they don't effect the game/competition between players by mistake. I don't think this is indented move from support.
 
They can now be returned from!

Somebody found a trick where you can get 2 neutron star boosts from 1 neutron star by flying through the cone whilst the FSD is counting down to enter the next system with a boost already in the tank.

Not sure if anyone said but made it big enough to get peoples attention. I don't think this was a support action.

Yeah they said. Maybe they should have used a big font to get your attention :)
 
They can now be returned from!

Somebody found a trick where you can get 2 neutron star boosts from 1 neutron star by flying through the cone whilst the FSD is counting down to enter the next system with a boost already in the tank.

Not sure if anyone said but made it big enough to get peoples attention. I don't think this was a support action.

You can get back from one system Ah candri and its acceptable that it has been claimed, but you can't explore whole cluster and then come back s you can't do douple super charge, then save super charge and do normal jumps around and then use the second super charge. If there is some way back then there is no problem but currently there is no way back
 

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Should frontier remove these discovered by xxxx player tags from these systems in m67 star cluster as there is no way (other than support move you out there) to get those tags? This not following the rules of game start to go too far now that frontier support has taken part to it

Yep, though I'm not surprised it happened to be honest.
 
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You can get back from one system Ah candri and its acceptable that it has been claimed, but you can't explore whole cluster and then come back s you can't do douple super charge, then save super charge and do normal jumps around and then use the second super charge. If there is some way back then there is no problem but currently there is no way back

Ahhh, fair enough, I retract my previous statement then and am feeling rather silly. Thats ok though, it's Friday and I have beer.

In that case yeah I agree, kinda poor form that unreachable bits are tagged...
 
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