News Elite Dangerous: Ascendancy | New Release Date and Release Schedule

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Rat Catcher said:
The only ship variant that is for Arx only is the Stellar version, which includes a ship kit and Paint job.
When the ships are available for credits in-game (3 months after the Arx 'early access' period) you will be able to buy the base ship and decide of you wish to spend Arx on kit & PJ, kitting the ship with modules of choice are also credit purchases, regardless, so only having a new ship during the early access phase requires Arx.

But, if it is "uninstall again", then yes, perhaps you might consider that, as the game doesn't appear to be able to retain your attention consistently, new ships or not. 🤷‍♂️
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the zero rebuy I am not a fan of however..... I remember complaining about LTI on ships in "the other game" and I am sad to see it in elite.... tho much like pre engineered modules its more of a principle than anything which matters objectively now. the credits involved are tiny (and materials now are awarded to us so easily as well that pre engineered modules are no Biggie either imo)

either way that ship has sailed.

On a brighter note the python MK2 however is already in game for credits and the type 8 is very close to being here now as well
 
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Morbad

Morbad
varonica said:
They will be available for credits, just not on the date of release!
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Which means there was, is, or will be a period where they were only available with ARX expenditure, which is the main complaint.

Personally, my sole issue with any of this is and has always been the noncontextuality of any degree of pay-to-anything, beyond what's required to initially access and interface with the game. There is little difference between a time-limited exclusive and a permanent one from this perspective; allowing formerly exclusive or ARX-gated assets to be acquired organically may mitigate, but does not erase, the damage that has been done to the (admittedly already tattered) internal consistency of the setting.
 

GJ51

GJ51
I'm a tad more miffed by the breach of early access that we used to have as part of pre-release supporters that is now limited to "content creators."

Otherwise known as those who only say nice things about ED

A bit disingenuous in my opinion
 

ubermick

ubermick
Based on Elite Dangerous' coverage on the yootoobs over the years, one thing I wouldn't label 'content creators' as would be "those who only say nice things about ED." Most of them with one or two exceptions have been fairly savage about Elite and Frontier in fairness.
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
[VR] Mad Mike said:
the zero rebuy I am not a fan of however.....
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We have at least 3 zero rebuy ships that existed in the game even before the Arx purchases appeared.
So nothing new in that part, is there?
But, it takes all kinds to play this game, so somebody will be objecting at something all of the time, wouldn't they?
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
ubermick said:
Based on Elite Dangerous' coverage on the yootoobs over the years, one thing I wouldn't label 'content creators' as would be "those who only say nice things about ED." Most of them with one or two exceptions have been fairly savage about Elite and Frontier in fairness.
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Being nice doesn't get lots of those yummy monetised clicks, does it?
 

Fizzatron

Fizzatron
Northpin said:
PC2 will most probably use the JWE2 version Cobra Engine or an improved version of it. Which ED is not using.
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How do we know which version of Cobra Engine that is used for Elite? Could it be that the V4.0 codebase moved the game to the latest (circa 2021) version of it?
 

Phoenix_Dfire

Phoenix_Dfire
GJ51 said:
I'm a tad more miffed by the breach of early access that we used to have as part of pre-release supporters that is now limited to "content creators."

Otherwise known as those who only say nice things about ED

A bit disingenuous in my opinion
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Normally, having a release build 24 hours earlier is hardly what I call early access. This time was an exception. We were surprised to get it earlier than usual, but then again PPv2 is a big topic to cover. Then CTDs happened and I'm glad it didn't go out in that state.
 

Gl9k

Gl9k
Rubbernuke said:
It was like listening to my mum and dad explain how computers work.
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Especially when they were trying to understand the new power play map and how to make it work. A lot of the things they were struggling with were similar to map features that already exist in the game and if you have done anything in depth in the game at all you would be used to (such as toggling filters to find relevant info, I use it all the time to find lowsec systems for an IF or to find certain systems in specific states or see the breakdown of superpower allegiance in an area, it is a very powerful tool in capable hands).
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
Hellfire85 said:
Honestly, making the new ships only available for ARX is a crap decision. Almost makes me wanna uninstall again (n)
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I purchased Horizons for the PlayStation. Then, when I moved to the PC, I purchased the Odyssey expansion. I have also purchased ARX in order to get early access to the new ships.

Yet, even after all that, I have spent less money on ED than I have spent on a single-time purchase of some games (which nowadays can go as high as $70€ when purchasing their cheapest version). I play such games usually for 10-50 hours. 100 hours is a real rarity (there are probably less than ten games in my entire life that I have played for more than 100 hours.) In contrast, I have played ED for something like 2000 hours.

I honestly cannot understand why so many people are so averse to pay for something they are playing. You are getting a ridiculous amount of gameplay for a ridiculously low sum of money. Many people spend enormously more on games they play significantly less, and you don't see them complaining. It seems like many ED players feel entitled to having everything for free forever, and whenever something costs real money, even if temporarily, they complain.

There are many completely crappy games I wasted quite sizeable sums of money in. If I could travel back in time and not buy those games and instead spend that exact same money on ARX, I would do it in a heartbeat. Would be significantly better spent money.
 

Fizzatron

Fizzatron
amigacooke said:
So it’s not true until the early access period expires. Then it will be true, though the Mandalay will make it false again, as will, in all probability, the fourth ship.
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Despite the dubious attempt to shoehorn some rationale to keep the narrative going, the issue is that the blanket statement "Only available for Arx" is very much untrue as there is a known qualifier that was left of the statement, which makes the statement misleading as it creates the impression to those that may be unaware that these ships will only be available for Arx in perpetuity. So, the statement was never true as writ.

Though what is unsurprising to me are the familiar faces that seem to only peddle in doom that like to keep jabbing at it trying to make something from it that there isn't.
 

Alec Turner

Alec Turner
GJ51 said:
I'm a tad more miffed by the breach of early access that we used to have as part of pre-release supporters that is now limited to "content creators."

Otherwise known as those who only say nice things about ED
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Clearly didn't listen to last week's Lave Radio, or Pete and Jude's Galnet News Digest video released yesterday, or even last Friday's Buur Pit video, all of whom have openly voiced their criticisms and concerns over the last week.
 

amigacooke

amigacooke
Fizzatron said:
Despite the dubious attempt to shoehorn some rationale to keep the narrative going, the issue is that the blanket statement "Only available for Arx" is very much untrue as there is a known qualifier that was left of the statement, which makes the statement misleading as it creates the impression to those that may be unaware that these ships will only be available for Arx in perpetuity. So, the statement was never true as writ.
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The fact is that today (and until Frontier make it available to buy for credits) there is a ship that is only available to you if you pay ARX. I don't like this change in the release conditions for ships, others don't seem to mind at all.
 

Don Alvarez

Don Alvarez
Markov Chaney said:
"They are more than capable of handling simultaneous projects, which is why there is only one per year, sequentially, and Elite is entering a "tolerate" phase so won't be a demand on time at all."

I think you need to talk me through the logic of that again...
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Game development cycles typically go well beyond 12 months anymore, plus I expect there will be DLC content for PlanCo 2 that will need to be developed alongside ongoing projects, there were DLC's for JW2 that were developed alongside PlanCo 2 and new stuff for ED, so... yeah. By definition, simultaneous projects.
and Elite is entering a "tolerate" phase so won't be a demand on time at all
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Thats actually not what I said but even as such, it doesn't invalidate the statement.
 
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Fizzatron

Fizzatron
amigacooke said:
The fact is that today (and until Frontier make it available to buy for credits) there is a ship that is only available to you if you pay ARX. I don't like this change in the release conditions for ships, others don't seem to mind at all.
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Sure, that's a fact, but not the fact that OP said, is it? But double down on it and prove my point some more.
 
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