Elite:Dangerous for Linux?

Im_Lost

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According to the steam surveys Ubuntu and Mint users are increasing faster than Mac OS ones, even though Linux is a lot more starved for games. You can also guarantee than there are a lot more people dual booting Linux who would switch over from windows if they could. It may soon be more profitable to port to Linux, rather than Mac. At least you won't have to pay any royalties to Apple :D
 
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TheDoctor

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graham.reeds said:
Loki had a good attempt porting games to Linux but wasn't helped by the games being fairly old and a lot of commentary at the time was complaining that they shouldn't have to pay for the games.

I have tried looking at Linux several times for my htpc over the past 10 years but Linux isn't keeping up with technology. In rough order of reasons is mp3/avi,dvd,mkv and bluray. While I could probably compile it in I don't want to need or do it. I want to listen to music - not trying to find all the dependencies to compile in. I am interested in the result not the journey.
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Actually Linux has pulled it's socks up and taken note from the phone/tablet market.

On Ubunutu and the ones that use that at their heart such as Zorin it has now what is called the software center and it works just like a marketplace on other platforms.

You select what you what and off it goes and installs it all, and uninstall when you want to get rid of it.

Also the amount of good free software has jumped immensely.

I realised that almost all the software I was using in windows was mulitiplatform with Linux being fully supported if not being the primary platform.

I use:

VLC player as the one stop audo/video player with almost every single codec you ever need.
Audacity as a sound recording/editing suite
Libre Office - Nice office suite
Thunderbird for email
Chrome as a browser
Calibre as an ebook format converter and management center
Steam also has quite a few native games as well.

as well as other stuff.

The best thing is that as it is multiplatform I know how it all works and don't have any learning curve as it works the same no matter what platform it is on.

I have brand new hardware as I did a full system rebuild and AMD even supports Linux with the latest drivers and full documentation on how to install it.

Everything else worked out of the box even all the features of my Sabretooth Z77 motherboard.

I don't dual boot as such, my main windows system has it's own launcher on it's drive and I custom installed Linux on another external drive and placed the grub launcher on that drive.

All I need to do it bring up the boot menu in the BIOS and pick which drive to boot from, a lot nicer to experiment with and windows doesn't throw a hissy as it doesn't even knows Linux is there.

Linux hasn't stayed still and now my wife who frankly just plays desktop games and does a bit of work has wholehearted embraced it and she loves the whole marketplace idea and she has been installing all sorts of crap onto her system. (which is a 64GB pen drive for the linux install)
 

hammurabi

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Frontier on Linux is a must!

Hi, I would like to insist of making the game cross platform, allowing us to play on linux.

It is a pity to see monopoly spreading into vast cosmos.
Its like putting only The Federation into the game saying nothing else matters.

But details matters! And Frontier is destined to be once again the king of all space games. So I want to see a good example for the whole universe and beyond!

I bet You benefit from Open Source communities already hence I hope to see some effort in supporting the cause.

There are too many linux systems murdered and reformatted to windows due to lack of good games that You absolutely have no moral right to refuse!
 

graham.reeds

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hammurabi said:
There are too many linux systems murdered and reformatted to windows due to lack of good games that You absolutely have no moral right to refuse!
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Actually they have every right to refuse as they are a business and will only release games where it makes business sense to do so.

If they decide to release a Linux version it will be after the release of the Windows version, where it is more profitable.
 

Slawkenbergius

Slawkenbergius
A Linux port might not be a bad idea, providing the cost of porting over isn't too much. I bet the proportion of sci-fi/space-sim/trading-game fans is higher there, and it's an easy market to capture. Unless I was dreaming, I think that CryEngine 3 is being brought to Linux.
 

TheBetpet

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Slawkenbergius said:
A Linux port might not be a bad idea, providing the cost of porting over isn't too much. I bet the proportion of sci-fi/space-sim/trading-game fans is higher there, and it's an easy market to capture. Unless I was dreaming, I think that CryEngine 3 is being brought to Linux.
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Theoretically, if they are porting to MacOS, they should be able to port to Linux with the minimum of difficulty.
 

jabokai

jabokai
hammurabi said:
Hi, I would like to insist of making the game cross platform, allowing us to play on linux.

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You absolutely have no moral right to refuse!
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Well, if I was the developer and someone "asked" me to do something in this way I'd tell them to **** right off! :p
 

Bar-Low

Bar-Low
I have just ditched Windows for good and moved over to linux. After getting my current games configured all setup to run well on linux (GW2, Civ 5, Skyrim through Wine, Crusader Kings 2 is native support and runs beautifully) I've decided to see whether my anticipated games will be running natively.
I am so looking forward to this game and I would love it to run natively on my computer. +1 for a linux version
 

Footissimo

Footissimo
graham.reeds said:
Loki had a good attempt porting games to Linux but wasn't helped by the games being fairly old and a lot of commentary at the time was complaining that they shouldn't have to pay for the games.
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This is really ancient history, but Loki failed due to financial mismanagement by its boss, Scott Draeker. You're also mixing up people desire for free (libre) software with free (beer) software. Obviously given Linux's heritage, most penguin-flavoured people would prefer free / open-source software, but that doesn't mean that software shouldn't be paid for. In fact, if you look at released comparative figures for Humble Bundle, IndieGameStand and the very limited figures for Steam games, you'll find that Linux users tend to overrepresent themselves in terms of how much they spend.

Obviously the total amount of desktop Linux users (half of that of Macs) means that it may not amount to much, but the idea that Linux users only want software that doesn't cost is very much an old myth.

I have tried looking at Linux several times for my htpc over the past 10 years but Linux isn't keeping up with technology. In rough order of reasons is mp3/avi,dvd,mkv and bluray. While I could probably compile it in I don't want to need or do it. I want to listen to music - not trying to find all the dependencies to compile in. I am interested in the result not the journey.
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You haven't looked very hard then as support for all those mentioned except bluray have been around without having to be compiled (unless you really want to) for the ten years that I've been using Linux. Bluray can also be done, though it's slightly more tricky due to their being no legal software produced that can handle the DRM / encryption..but do you need to compile anything? Nope! For the majority of penguin people who use the popular / newbie-friendly distros, the idea of compiling anything will be pretty alien.

WRT dependencies, they've been handled by package managers for a long time. I remember some 'hell' from when I was using Mandrake 10, but that's a very distant memory. For the main distros, you just go and click and install a package that has all the usual codecs.
 

Baity

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+1 for linux version, I'll get it working via WINE at first but a steam release that lets us install it on Linux without having to buy again would be good!

I'd support a kickstarter for a linux version as well.
 

Cosmos

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Not scoured this thread, so sorry if already mentioned, but there is one very good reason to get on linux, above all: It is open source and its probably the only OS that we can put our trust in. Recent government spying news confirmed, proprietary software, incuding operating systems simply cannot be trusted with any information you wish to be private..

Therefore, I would love to see ED on linux.
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
amigacooke said:
Interesting, but is another flavour of Linux really a good idea?
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There's no actual thing as Linux flavor. Essentially if all software is up to date (and it is in all of those distributions), running programs are no big deal. What's important is what kind of shell or interface it has, but even that is moot point seeing how people easily adapt their new smartphones.

What's important however is that if you can run your beloved games or software on Linux. While answer could be "maybe" (there's lot of ports recent years, Wine works for lot of software relatively good), it's not really enough for common crowd.

My guestimate is that Valve will use Ubuntu and/or Debian. As they both almost synonymous to certain extent, there shouldn't be big problem, as Debian is huge, and is practically foundation of majority of Linux desktop machines (rest of it is RedHat/SuSE commercial distros). It is also amazingly good OS as itself, very easy to support (mind you I'm talking about whole system here, not kernel only), technical marvel; from my experience the best (starting from their packaging system and finishing with their polish and defaults) - and it is all driven by non-commercial entity Debian foundation.

Valve will slap their own interface, port their own software and that's it. Most people won't even know base of the system. But as far as I read they will allow it to modify and hack truly open style, which is complete opposite current tendencies in home entertainment systems market (Except for cheap and grey market - there's lot of perfect Linux setup boxes available).

For ED coming to Linux I have always said that's FD decision not mine, we already know they will have Cobra ported to support OpenGL. So what matters is numbers and if they want to risk it. However I know that if the would release Linux version (be it year, two years, etc. away), I would not only buy a second copy, but also will pull my all Linux friends into ED.
 
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