Elite Dangerous is not a sandbox
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Really well put, this is exactly how I'm feeling as well.
I think that's pretty much the gist of it. Next thread - "what is art?"
So the original idea of the kickstarter campaign game is being accurately implemented. ummm... if you didn't like the original idea of the kickstarter campaign why did you sign up? I didn't like the original idea of many games... I didn't buy them.
It's open world, don't get hung up on the whole sandbox thing.
A sandbox game is any game with a very open world environment where the player is not limited to a linear path. They are in effect in a sand box.
Crafting and economic control has nothing to do with it.
7 Days To Die, Minecraft, Jungle Strike, Elite (1984) are all sandbox games.
Crafting and economic control has nothing to do with it.
7 Days To Die, Minecraft, Jungle Strike, Elite (1984) are all sandbox games.
In Elite you do have an empire. That empire is your ship...
Impressive how persistant someone can be in their convictions
Did you expect me to suddenly start believing ED is a sandbox game just because some people here were being sarcastic to me? I don't give up my rationality so easily.
EVE has all these things you want in a game, ED doesn't have all these things you want in a game.
Easy answer - play EVE.
Leave Elite to be what people who want to play what Elite is, is.
Just sayin
The original point remains.
For the folks who are trying to redefine sandbox: please look at the bottom of the first post - I added an all inclusive definition of sanbox that satisfies literally everyone's definition. We can continue the discussion based on that, unless someone has an objection to that definition.
For the folks who are trying to redefine sandbox: please look at the bottom of the first post - I added an all inclusive definition of sanbox that satisfies literally everyone's definition. We can continue the discussion based on that, unless someone has an objection to that definition.
Did you expect me to suddenly start believing ED is a sandbox game just because some people here were being sarcastic to me? I don't give up my rationality so easily.
Don't confuse conviction with rationality....
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And what is that exactly?
Or how about you just drop the sandbox red herring entirely?
The original point is that you want EvE like features in Elite.
I can see you're defensive about a game you really love. And again, that's cool. I don't want to ruin your fun, but like I have said before: it is alpha, it is the perfect time to request better features and to clarify what genre this currently belongs to and where game development should be headed.
And if you stop and think about it, you will realize that the sandbox features that are lacking in this game, that I am requesting, won't really impact your game play as it currently is. It's an ADDITION, not a removal or modification to the current game.
I think the longer ED is around the more "sandboxy" it'll become (using the OPs definition). The game will need new content injecting into it, which is already planned with the first two expansions. But what if ED is still around in 5 years time? I'll be very surprised if Frontier stop at the EVA expansion and say that's it. I'm sure if its still making money via micro-transactions and there is a demand from the playerbase for further expansions I wouldn't be surprised if they put the feelers out to see how the idea of adding a crafting system or player owned content, will be perceived.
Even those of us today who aren't particularity interested in those things and are content with the basic trade-combat-explore concept, may yearn for more interactive things to do a few years down the line.
Due to its size, I believe this game has an unprecedented potential to evolve way beyond anything we can imagine at this moment in time. If the popularity of it grows and it remains financially viable in years to come, it could well widen its scope to attract new players and keep existing players interested with new ideas and concepts.
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