Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Announcement

Agreed. SC is ok, and I just love space games, so im not even going to compare. the only thing I would say is that the immersion is really good. actually standing up out of your seat walking back through your conda to the hatch would be fantastic. instead of the select disembark, black screen, cut to outside.
SC’s immersion is patchy from what I have seen. Watched a vid of a guy doing box delivery missions. He bought a few items from a store, from the speechless, expressionless store keeper. Wandered through the starport, past all the zombies to collect the boxes. Walked back to the ship. Flew it to a planetary outpost type landing pad. Took the boxes to a building, dropped them off and flew back. Zero interaction with any NPC. Not even a zombie to be seen at the drop off point. Not even audio chat when requesting clearance to take off. Got his ship blown up trying to land. No warning, audio or visual, just boom and that was that! the graphics were fantastic, but as immersive gameplay it sucked!
 
I'm all for supporting this small minority of players across all platforms, but if it draws out the development process or restricts or drops new game play to support VR, then it's got to go for odyssey. It just doesn't make logical or business sense to drag out development and limit game play scope for a small group of players. Perhaps they'll keep VR support, but the game won't be optimized for it? Not sure, but ED is not a VR game, it's a game that supports VR.
 
SC’s immersion is patchy from what I have seen. Watched a vid of a guy doing box delivery missions. He bought a few items from a store, from the speechless, expressionless store keeper. Wandered through the starport, past all the zombies to collect the boxes. Walked back to the ship. Flew it to a planetary outpost type landing pad. Took the boxes to a building, dropped them off and flew back. Zero interaction with any NPC. Not even a zombie to be seen at the drop off point. Not even audio chat when requesting clearance to take off. Got his ship blown up trying to land. No warning, audio or visual, just boom and that was that! the graphics were fantastic, but as immersive gameplay it sucked!
Oh for sure , its not without issues, and I am not going to argue one over the other, as with ED we are still in the cockpit, and nefver see another NPC. To be honest, the immersion for me is the ship interior. thats where we will spend most of our gaming time. personally I dont care how good the graphics are on SC, they are ok, but the first time I saw the inside of the ED stations, my jaw dropped :)
 
What changes were made in December/January made the game more "Grindy"?

The void opal nerf?
well the void opal nerf made it a bit less fun but I have plenty of money and didn’t really like void opal mining for cash anyway because it required getting out of VR to find a station to sell them to using 3rd party tools so I mostly did that for fun. But as far as money making my favorite is still long distance cargo runs when the payouts were decent and the NPC interdictions worked like they were supposed to.

what really killed it for me was the new BGS system with multiple states per system and no ingame tools to find systems with the materials I needed. That’s a HUUUUUUGE hassle in VR. That may have happened before the Dec/Jan update but that’s when I got sick of it. The other thing that killed it for me (happened earlier but wasn’t the final straw) was the stupid new C&P system. Before that it was the thargoids. What started out as a challenging and well-balanced NPC fight became an OP grind fest with the bigger copy/paste goids that require grinding crafting materials for in-fight synthesis rather than properly balanced anti-goid ships and weapons. The T10 was a massive disappointment for me. Perfect VR cockpit for fighting goids and completely useless for anything outside a cyclops. The ridiculous rewards for fighting the most powerful NPCs in the game didn’t help either. You want 3-4 million an hour for fighting goids or 300 million an hour for playing space-bus driver?

so little by little FDev has made me lose interest until I just couldn’t be bothered anymore....and nothing thus far has pulled be back in to play.....even though the VR part is really great. I still hope something good will come but it looks like FD is looking to pull in the console Fortnight players....who dont care about VR.

I think the margins are much better on console games than PC games and console owners have much lower percentage of VR gear so......
 

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well the void opal nerf made it a bit less fun but I have plenty of money and didn’t really like void opal mining for cash anyway because it required getting out of VR to find a station to sell them to using 3rd party tools so I mostly did that for fun. But as far as money making my favorite is still long distance cargo runs when the payouts were decent and the NPC interdictions worked like they were supposed to.

what really killed it for me was the new BGS system with multiple states per system and no ingame tools to find systems with the materials I needed. That’s a HUUUUUUGE hassle in VR. That may have happened before the Dec/Jan update but that’s when I got sick of it. The other thing that killed it for me (happened earlier but wasn’t the final straw) was the stupid new C&P system. Before that it was the thargoids. What started out as a challenging and well-balanced NPC fight became an OP grind fest with the bigger copy/paste goids that require grinding crafting materials for in-fight synthesis rather than properly balanced anti-goid ships and weapons. The T10 was a massive disappointment for me. Perfect VR cockpit for fighting goids and completely useless for anything outside a cyclops. The ridiculous rewards for fighting the most powerful NPCs in the game didn’t help either. You want 3-4 million an hour for fighting goids or 300 million an hour for playing space-bus driver?

so little by little FDev has made me lose interest until I just couldn’t be bothered anymore....and nothing thus far has pulled be back in to play.....even though the VR part is really great. I still hope something good will come but it looks like FD is looking to pull in the console Fortnight players....who dont care about VR.

I think the margins are much better on console games than PC games and console owners have much lower percentage of VR gear so......
Ah that sucks Turd. I feel for you. I don't use VR personally so this doesn't bother me that much but I can appreciate your struggle.
 
It isnt required for Horizons either. The steam list what it supports, and with Odyssey VR is no longer listed. So either FD made a mistake or, quite possibly, odyssey is not VR.
Is no pc hardware supported either? There's no minimum or recommended spec ...

Calm down. The page is a placeholder. Whether it does or does not support VR has nothing to do with what the page is today.
 
MalicVR said yesterday Horizons was the same, until close to release. To paraphrase his stream yesterday: calm down people :)
Fair enough, but again it wouldn't be hard to pop in, like they did about the LEP question, to say "yes of course this works in VR."

Like I said, just concerned about being able to fully enjoy one of my favorite games.

Is atmospheric landings for real? This is my deal breaker...
Yes, obviously, it's shown in the trailer.
 
Fair enough, but again it wouldn't be hard to pop in, like they did about the LEP question, to say "yes of course this works in VR."

Like I said, just concerned about being able to fully enjoy one of my favorite games.


Adding VR support to games powered by modern engines is relatively trivial. All this excitement about the potential absence of VR is silly.

Edit:: Well that post didn't age well......
 
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I'm hoping there will be NPC and other player interactions as well as exploration etc type activities available that don't involve picking your way through a combat zone.
Don't worry, besides being able to shoot things and enemies, you'll be able to do other kinds of interaction with them, like hitting them with the butt of the gun or kicking the privates in the privates. Lots of things to do. :D
 
Fair enough, but again it wouldn't be hard to pop in, like they did about the LEP question, to say "yes of course this works in VR."

Like I said, just concerned about being able to fully enjoy one of my favorite games.



Yes, obviously, it's shown in the trailer.
Ok. For a moment I thought it was just rocky planets not ice planets.
 

Tim Smith

Lead Community Manager
Frontier
Greetings Commanders,

Thank you for your overwhelmingly positive response to the announcement of Elite Dangerous: Odyssey. We’ve been really excited to share this and it’s amazing to see that you all feel the same way!

This is just the beginning and we will be sharing more details and information in the coming months that you can look forward to.

We’re seeing all your streams, videos, posts and questions and, today, we wanted to answer a few for you straight away:

Is Elite Dangerous: Odyssey coming to VR?

Currently, Elite Dangerous: Odyssey will not be VR-compatible at launch. We’re big fans of VR and we are truly proud of the amazing experience that we currently offer in Elite Dangerous. However, the new gameplay, mechanics and features that will be introduced with Elite Dangerous: Odyssey means that we had to re-examine if we could deliver that same experience without compromise, which, for launch, means Odyssey will not be VR-compatible.

Will there be Base Building in Elite Dangerous: Odyssey?
Base building is not currently on the roadmap for Elite Dangerous, however we have plenty of new features planned instead such as on-foot exploration, new planetary tech, social hubs, combat as well as more to be shared later on! We’re looking to put our best foot forward with Odyssey and if you’d like an overview of what to expect, you can check out the website or Steam page.

Will Elite Dangerous: Odyssey be included in my Lifetime Expansion Pass?
While Elite Dangerous: Odyssey is a paid expansion, we're happy to confirm that yes, this expansion will absolutely be included in the Lifetime Expansion Pass for free.


Stay Safe, Commanders o7
 
This is disappointing. I started ED to be a commander, not a pedestrian. If I wanted to walk around I'd be playing Halo or Call of Duty. If this goes the way I think it will, it will completely ruin the game for me. If I do stick around, I'll probably get my jollies mowing down fools on the ground with my ship. This is just stupid.
Did I miss an announcement that they're removing ships from the game?

Thought not.
 
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