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If I have linked my account to steam some of the money I spend on paint jobs goes to steam right? What happens after horizons launches which isn't on steam... or will it be? Will steam get some money or not?
 
If I have linked my account to steam some of the money I spend on paint jobs goes to steam right? What happens after horizons launches which isn't on steam... or will it be? Will steam get some money or not?

Nope, you bought the paint jobs from Frontier (so all your bucks went to them). Linking doesn't grant steam any rights to sales from Frontier's systems.

The only way steam gets anything, is if you actually went through a form of checkout within steam's convoluted checkout system itself... giving them your card details (or paypal auth). Since steam doesn't actually sell paint job 'dlc', then you have to buy them from Frontier.

Hope that helps!
 
Hi all,

Well I just know this has been answered somewhere but it does (to me) still seem a little confusing. I bought into the original Beta but as soon as Steam keys became available I started to play on Steam and deleted my old install. I have just bought Horizons and wondered will this appear in Steam for d/load when it becomes available to the public or will I need to do a fresh install of ED outside of Steam to get Horizons ?
 
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Nope, you bought the paint jobs from Frontier (so all your bucks went to them). Linking doesn't grant steam any rights to sales from Frontier's systems.

The only way steam gets anything, is if you actually went through a form of checkout within steam's convoluted checkout system itself... giving them your card details (or paypal auth). Since steam doesn't actually sell paint job 'dlc', then you have to buy them from Frontier.

Hope that helps!

Hm, I haven't looked at this discussion for a while, but I was under the impression from very early on that once you link your Frontier account to Steam to get a steam key for a game originally bought from Frontier directly, any further purchases whether via Steam or the Frontier Store for Elite related items (expansions or skins) would incur a % of that going to Valve. I thought the quotes shown on the initial post were quite clear about that :

I expect that generating steam keys is free, but by doing so any future FD store purchases become subject to the "valve tax". A bit of confirmation on that point wouldn't hurt but it makes sense to me.
Yeah, that's a fair interpretation. We don't think of it as a tax though, just part of working with third party retailers.
I feel a bit crude talking about 'cuts' and 'percentages' but yes, once you've linked an account, any future purchases on the FD store are affected by this.
 
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Nope, you bought the paint jobs from Frontier (so all your bucks went to them). Linking doesn't grant steam any rights to sales from Frontier's systems.

The only way steam gets anything, is if you actually went through a form of checkout within steam's convoluted checkout system itself... giving them your card details (or paypal auth). Since steam doesn't actually sell paint job 'dlc', then you have to buy them from Frontier.

Hope that helps!

That's not true. Once you link your account to Steam, then Steam take 30% of any future transactions of in-game items you make through the Frontier Store (including games/expansions/season passes).

Once again another opportunity to say thank you to all those people who were whining about not being able to link their account to Steam. Even though Steam gives you nothing extra for linking the game (you still have to launch the game through the Frontier launcher anyway) and they get loads of extra cash for doing nothing, while Frontier lose out.
 
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Even though Steam gives you nothing extra for linking the game (you still have to launch the game through the Frontier launcher anyway) and they get loads of extra cash for doing nothing, while Frontier lose out.

That's not true. There are many benefits to using Steam over the Frontier Store version. In-home streaming for one...
 
Hi all,

Well I just know this has been answered somewhere but it does (to me) still seem a little confusing. I bought into the original Beta but as soon as Steam keys became available I started to play on Steam and deleted my old install. I have just bought Horizons and wondered will this appear in Steam for d/load when it becomes available to the public or will I need to do a fresh install of ED outside of Steam to get Horizons ?

Anyone ?
 
That's not true. Once you link your account to Steam, then Steam take 30% of any future transactions of in-game items you make through the Frontier Store (including games/expansions/season passes).

Once again another opportunity to say thank you to all those people who were whining about not being able to link their account to Steam. Even though Steam gives you nothing extra for linking the game (you still have to launch the game through the Frontier launcher anyway) and they get loads of extra cash for doing nothing, while Frontier lose out.

Hmm..... ok, it must be a special case setup that Frontier is doing with Steam. Its not normally that case.

Guess it's a good reason for me to UNLINK my steam account then before buying any expansions and paint jobs. Because seriously, Steam doesn't need my money, Frontier does.
 
Because seriously, Steam doesn't need my money, Frontier does.

Frontier don't either, to be honest with you. They've certainly had enough of mine to last several lifetimes.

And if they keep cacking up the Steam situation (it's crazy - run the launcher from within Steam and Horizons doesn't appear... run the exact same program manually from the same folder & Horizons is there) then they probably don't deserve it. :p
 
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Oh man...I just came here after linking my Horizons key. I like having the Steam Overlay for quicker internet and forums and what not without alt-tabbing, but had I known that this actually hurts FD somewhat I would not have done it. Now I feel bad. I guess at least I did buy Horizons from FD before the accounts were linked, but I still feel bad. Don't get me wrong, I like Steam and have no issues with them but honestly they get enough as is and I would rather anything I give to FD fully go to them.
 
Oh man...I just came here after linking my Horizons key. I like having the Steam Overlay for quicker internet and forums and what not without alt-tabbing, but had I known that this actually hurts FD somewhat I would not have done it. Now I feel bad. I guess at least I did buy Horizons from FD before the accounts were linked, but I still feel bad. Don't get me wrong, I like Steam and have no issues with them but honestly they get enough as is and I would rather anything I give to FD fully go to them.


May

"It's outrageous Frontier aren't giving existing customers free Steam keys! Disgusting!"

FD explain there would be real world cost impacts by going down that road.


"Stop making excuses! Existing customers are ENTITLED to a Steam key! Shame!"

FD provide existing customers with Steam keys.


"Yay! Steam key! Smilies!"


Steam begins eating FD's lunch.


August

"It's outrageous Frontier want existing customers to pay $45 for Horizons! That should be, like, 30% less!"


30%? Ya don't say.
 
Is there any way to merge Elite Dangerous and Elite Dangerous: Horizons in Steam?
E.g. i start the normal Elite Dangerous and can pick 2.0 Horizons from the Launcher.
Does the moving of gamefiles help?
 
Is there any way to merge Elite Dangerous and Elite Dangerous: Horizons in Steam?
E.g. i start the normal Elite Dangerous and can pick 2.0 Horizons from the Launcher.
Does the moving of gamefiles help?
Are you saying you only want one copy of the game in your library which is Horizons? I don't think you can do that though. I collected my Horizons Steam key from Frontier Store so I doubt I'll be using the base game in Steam anymore. If you are launching Elite Dangerous (not Horizons) from Steam, you will NOT see Horizons in the launcher. If, however, you navigate to your Elite Dangerous' directory and double-click EDLaunch.exe, you will see Horizons.
 
Is there any way to merge Elite Dangerous and Elite Dangerous: Horizons in Steam?
E.g. i start the normal Elite Dangerous and can pick 2.0 Horizons from the Launcher.
Does the moving of gamefiles help?

Don't think you can do that, no. It's treated as a separate game with a separate AppID.

I uninstalled E: D from Steam, and then hid it from the game library. Then I installed Horizons. So I only have one copy of E: D, and it's Horizons, but as far as things like moving your playtime and other things across to Horizons - it can't be done AFAIK.
 
Don't think you can do that, no. It's treated as a separate game with a separate AppID.

I uninstalled E: D from Steam, and then hid it from the game library. Then I installed Horizons. So I only have one copy of E: D, and it's Horizons, but as far as things like moving your playtime and other things across to Horizons - it can't be done AFAIK.

Mr. Braben said they will be addressing this shortly so lets see what they will come up with.
 
Sorry if this has been answered.
Does the Steam version install the 32bit or the 64bit of the game ?
The launcher recommends to install the 64bit, which I have done. Steam installs everything in the "Program File (x86) folder so it just made me wonder if it is the 32 bit version.
 
Steam cost of Horizons $45. ED store cost for Horizons is $61 (exchange rates). I think I know where to get horizons from.
 
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