Elite on Console is dead - so why are FDev delaying Odyssey improvements for it?

Northpin

Northpin
Nerix said:
But believe me, on base PS4 the game is technically in a bad shape
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It's quite ok on XB One S.
The only thing that would qualify as technically in a bad shape would be the stuttering nearby planetary bodies that was introduced with the FSS geo/bio POI reworking
 

Northpin

Northpin
Mozmaniac said:
Its all a very bad business strategy, one which may drive console gamers to other titles that may be getting released in the future. I mean aside from the difficulty of getting hold of a next gen console because covid production delays, most console gamers will probably move over to next gen as older gen stocks diminish and production ceases.
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Currently there are way more old consoles in use than the newer ones. And the new ones are quite hard to get.
 

Northpin

Northpin
Red Rocket said:
fdevs says, No No No
Hand writing on the wall, all you have is to read it.
Frontier has given up on Elite
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Mozmaniac said:
No just bombed out on consoles... they plunge their resources into pc game only.
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When:
  • the vast majority of consoles out there are XB1 and PS4
  • they are more pressing things to deal with first, like EDO on PC and EDO on XB1 and PS1

Does anyone think they will somehow prioritize a native version for the minority of consolers that were fortunate enoughto get their hands on XB Series and PS5? (or rich & careless enough to purchase from scalpers)

Especially when:
  • XB series runs ED really nice in 4k and 1080p
  • PS5 runs ED really nice in 1080p
  • there are a very very few voices that Demand 4k on PS5 (a tiny minority of a minority, really)


I dont expect a native version earlier than 2022 (unless they secretly work on both both versions (last and current gen) and they plan to launch it in autumn - very very slim chances tho)
 

Nadreck

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I expect much of the optimisation required to get Odyssey running acceptably on the PS4 would also help it run better on somewhat elderly PC's, so I'm OK with it.

Fix that first, before trying to add frills that only newer consoles (or PC's) could use.
 

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_
Northpin said:
When:
  • the vast majority of consoles out there are XB1 and PS4
  • they are more pressing things to deal with first, like EDO on PC and EDO on XB1 and PS1

Does anyone think they will somehow prioritize a native version for the minority of consolers that were fortunate enoughto get their hands on XB Series and PS5? (or rich & careless enough to purchase from scalpers)

Especially when:
  • XB series runs ED really nice in 4k and 1080p
  • PS5 runs ED really nice in 1080p
  • there are a very very few voices that Demand 4k on PS5 (a tiny minority of a minority, really)


I dont expect a native version earlier than 2022 (unless they secretly work on both both versions (last and current gen) and they plan to launch it in autumn - very very slim chances tho)
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PS5 does not run Elite "really nice". You've already admitted you don't have one. Obvious troll.
 

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_
This is the fastest selling console generation in history. Also the demand is still very high. By the time Odyssey releases at Christmas, they will be targeting obsolete 10 year old console hardware.

Yet Frontier have "no plans" for it.

Bad business decision, unless ... Development is winding down (see also VR, Cross Play, Cross Save, Ship Interiors, Ray Tracing).
 
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Northpin

Northpin
boppa_ said:
This is the fastest selling console generation in history. Also the demand is still very high. By the time Odyssey releases at Christmas, they will be targeting obsolete 10 year old console hardware.

Yet Frontier have "no plans" for it.

Bad business decision, unless ... Development is winding down (see also VR, Cross Play, Cross Save, Ray Tracing).
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Yea, FD has no plans yet for ps5 that sold 8 millions units.

However it has plans for the ps4 which sold 110 millions units.
i wonder why?
 

Iron Golem

Iron Golem
Northpin said:
It's running really nice based on reports from other people that are running 1080p content on 1080p screens.
🤷‍♂️

If you insist on running it on a 4k display then compare its 1080p resolution to 4k games, so be it... but in this case i'm not the one that is trolling
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1080p content on my 4k tv looks very meh. If I understand correctly some tvs downscale better than others though so maybe not universally bad.
 

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_
Northpin said:
It's running really nice based on reports from other people that are running 1080p content on 1080p screens.
🤷‍♂️

If you insist on running it on a 4k display then compare its 1080p resolution to 4k games, so be it... but in this case i'm not the one that is trolling
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I think you're missing the whole point of this post and are just being deliberately contradictory. The fact that you feel qualified to describe the performance, stability and display of Elite on PS5 as being "really nice" despite having had no first hand experience at all, is at best disingenuous...

"Playing ED on XBox / Steam / Epic" :D
 

Northpin

Northpin
Iron Golem said:
1080p content on my 4k tv looks very meh. If I understand correctly some tvs downscale better than others though so maybe not universally bad.
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That's absolutely correct.

My old 4k tv, an 42" 2015 Philips Android tv had really and i mean really nice downscale.
The current one, a 2018 model, 49" Philips Android TV downscales visibly worse than the older model - i've been pretty miffed about it since i only have a single 4k channel on my cable and dozens of 1080p channels - but eventually i got over it (the older 4k had some obvious compatibility issues in 4k including with my XB1s *, but in 1080p it was perfect)

* which was the reason i changed it in less than 3 weeks after i got the XB.
 

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_

[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_
Northpin said:
Yea, FD has no plans yet for ps5 that sold 8 millions units.

However it has plans for the ps4 which sold 110 millions units.
i wonder why?
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Iron Golem

Iron Golem
Either mine downscales poorly or 4k is just so glorious you cant see 1080p the same. Then again why not both. 😋

Tried hooking up the pc to it to see Elite in 4k, was glorious but half my 1080p frame rate. Kind of like doing Odyssey foot cz.
 

Northpin

Northpin
boppa_ said:
I think you're missing the whole point of this post and are just being deliberately contradictory. The fact that you feel qualified to describe the performance, stability and display of Elite on PS5 as being "really nice" despite having had no first hand experience at all, is at best disingenuous...

"Playing ED on XBox / Steam / Epic" :D
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I dont remember seeing a single report that said EDO looks bad on PS5 on 1080p screens

I do however understand that you are very unhappy with how ED looks on your 4k screen. 🤷‍♂️
And i've seen another report in this very thread from someone that was actually happy about how ED looks on his PS5 on 4k - but ofc their opinion was dismissed...
How dared they to promote such heresy???
 
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