Exploration - When worlds colide

nanite2000

nanite2000
malenfant said:
So the collision was observed on the 3rd June? I'm actually there in that system now (awesome find, btw!) and the B and C moons are currently 0.95ls apart (with B leading ahead of C). If I've done my calculations right then the next collision will be about 133 days after that.

B orbital period (seconds): 122027.5156
C orbital period (seconds): 120757.5547
difference in period (seconds): 1269.960937
the difference is about 0.010516617 of the orbital period (about 1.4 days).
That corresponds to 3.785982074 degrees. So every orbit, the B moon moves a further 3.78 degrees ahead on its orbit relative to C.
So for B moon to go 360 degrees around relative to C would take 95.08761346 orbits, which is about 132.9 days.

So the next collision will be October 14th?

If anyone wants to check the calculations then feel free! I may have got something wrong.

Screenshots:

http://i.imgur.com/bDXWX1X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M4cCbk9.jpg
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This could be a new mission type concept - date-specific missions to see an 'event' and collect data.
 

Heavy Johnson

Heavy Johnson
malenfant said:
So the collision was observed on the 3rd June? I'm actually there in that system now (awesome find, btw!) and the B and C moons are currently 0.95ls apart (with B leading ahead of C). If I've done my calculations right then the next collision will be about 133 days after that.

B orbital period (seconds): 122027.5156
C orbital period (seconds): 120757.5547
difference in period (seconds): 1269.960937
the difference is about 0.010516617 of the orbital period (about 1.4 days).
That corresponds to 3.785982074 degrees. So every orbit, the B moon moves a further 3.78 degrees ahead on its orbit relative to C.
So for B moon to go 360 degrees around relative to C would take 95.08761346 orbits, which is about 132.9 days.

So the next collision will be around October 14th?

If anyone wants to check the calculations then feel free! I may have got something wrong.
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I agree with your math. The two moons should have a roughly 133 day cycle before they "impact" again.
 

hypermumm

hypermumm
malenfant said:
So the collision was observed on the 3rd June? I'm actually there in that system now (awesome find, btw!) and the B and C moons are currently 0.95ls apart (with B leading ahead of C). If I've done my calculations right then the next collision will be about 133 days after that.

B orbital period (seconds): 122027.5156
C orbital period (seconds): 120757.5547
difference in period (seconds): 1269.960937
the difference is about 0.010516617 of the orbital period (about 1.4 days).
That corresponds to 3.785982074 degrees. So every orbit, the B moon moves a further 3.78 degrees ahead on its orbit relative to C.
So for B moon to go 360 degrees around relative to C would take 95.08761346 orbits, which is about 132.9 days.

So the next collision will be around October 14th?

If anyone wants to check the calculations then feel free! I may have got something wrong.

Screenshots:

http://i.imgur.com/bDXWX1X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M4cCbk9.jpg
Click to expand...

Thanks for the calculations, i tried to do it myself but had insufficient data (and insufficient math skills).
Yes the collision happened around 3rd june. When i came across them the day before they where still 5.44 Mm away from each other. The next morning then i took the pictures so i had an incredible amount of luck[big grin].
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
Can't see pictures due to corporate blocks, but from what I can understand from the words that have been used, it should have been possible to land on one and drive the SRV onto the other. Bet the game would have crashed though, lol.
 

Major Klutz

Major Klutz
I just stopped by here tonight to check it out. Logged off landed on the C moon.
It's pretty dark there since there's no light emitting star in the system. I had to turn my gamma all the way up to see any surface features.
I'll plan on being back here in October to observe the close pass from the surface.

It should be safe on the surface. From what I've seen in videos of other glitches, the game puts you in the frame of reference of where you drop out of supercruise. After that, celestial bodies that collide are visual ghosts.
 

hypermumm

hypermumm
Major Klutz said:
I just stopped by here tonight to check it out. Logged off landed on the C moon.
It's pretty dark there since there's no light emitting star in the system. I had to turn my gamma all the way up to see any surface features.
I'll plan on being back here in October to observe the close pass from the surface.

It should be safe on the surface. From what I've seen in videos of other glitches, the game puts you in the frame of reference of where you drop out of supercruise. After that, celestial bodies that collide are visual ghosts.
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Well i tried landing during the collision but not to close so i don't get hit. But what happened is that, even when i was clearly closer to the moon i was landing on, in the moment i exited glide at 3km i noticed the moon getting closer. I imeadietly flew upwards and activated supercruise but at the time i entered supercriuse i was only 1km above the surface and without boost it would have been probably less. The moons didn't jump eather it was smooth the hole way trough.
 

Sapporo

Sapporo
malenfant said:
So the collision was observed on the 3rd June? I'm actually there in that system now (awesome find, btw!) and the B and C moons are currently 0.95ls apart (with B leading ahead of C). If I've done my calculations right then the next collision will be about 133 days after that.

B orbital period (seconds): 122027.5156
C orbital period (seconds): 120757.5547
difference in period (seconds): 1269.960937
the difference is about 0.010516617 of the orbital period (about 1.4 days).
That corresponds to 3.785982074 degrees. So every orbit, the B moon moves a further 3.78 degrees ahead on its orbit relative to C.
So for B moon to go 360 degrees around relative to C would take 95.08761346 orbits, which is about 132.9 days.

So the next collision will be around October 14th?

If anyone wants to check the calculations then feel free! I may have got something wrong.

Screenshots:

http://i.imgur.com/bDXWX1X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M4cCbk9.jpg
Click to expand...

I'm taking that in note... thanks!
 

yodajedifishmaster

yodajedifishmaster
this kind of thing is why they pay us explorers even for data on already discovered stuff. to flag up this so scientists can book travel to go and monitor and research. i would love it if the planets collided and merged into one with a debris ring which slowly begins to form a moon. - two glowing red planetary bodies. thats one theory about how earth and the moon actually formed - a mars sized body hit earth and merged and the stuff thrown into orbit, wound up becoming the moon.
 

malenfant

M
I suspect the thing to do would be to land while the moons were a few radii apart, then dismiss the ship, observe the collision from the surface, then recall it after the collision? The only problem would be what would happen if the SRV was destroyed in the event - you'd have to not reappear in your ship til after the other moon has moved away.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
malenfant said:
So the collision was observed on the 3rd June? I'm actually there in that system now (awesome find, btw!) and the B and C moons are currently 0.95ls apart (with B leading ahead of C). If I've done my calculations right then the next collision will be about 133 days after that.

B orbital period (seconds): 122027.5156
C orbital period (seconds): 120757.5547
difference in period (seconds): 1269.960937
the difference is about 0.010516617 of the orbital period (about 1.4 days).
That corresponds to 3.785982074 degrees. So every orbit, the B moon moves a further 3.78 degrees ahead on its orbit relative to C.
So for B moon to go 360 degrees around relative to C would take 95.08761346 orbits, which is about 132.9 days.

So the next collision will be around October 14th?

If anyone wants to check the calculations then feel free! I may have got something wrong.

Screenshots:

http://i.imgur.com/bDXWX1X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M4cCbk9.jpg
Click to expand...

No idea if its correct, but I love to idea of empirically verifying it by going there months from now. Awesome, +1!
 

Major Klutz

Major Klutz
Yeah. I would land at least a day ahead of time.
Pick a moon and land on the side facing (or that will be facing) the other moon. Down and locked before the other moon comes in to range.

I'm quite certain that the game won't register you impacting with either moon if your ship is not moving so I wouldn't worry too much about the other moon impacting your ship or SRV.
I expect it will just clip through you.
 
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