But posting in the pre-existing threads wouldn't have got you any attention, I guess?
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But posting in the pre-existing threads wouldn't have got you any attention, I guess?
When I was born, I explicitly requested for a 3rd person in option, but to this day still no patch up
Do not confuse real life and video games
btw the game is disined to be the most immersive possible (oculus rift , stick etc...) 3rd persone is a nonsens in this way . But why not kind of outside mirrors in some station for the most misogine of us
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No, because I not asking them to add external view, but just ask them to be more specific about external view with new visitors. Remove videos or add text NO EXTERNAL VIEW somewhere.
I think it is legitimate because the new players can expect that.
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Not sure a developer is responsible for stating what is not in the game. As a UK company they have very strict advertising laws to comply with so they are probably not actually doing anything wrong...at least by heavily legislated UK laws.
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If your research into a game relies solely on some pretty video's you are not going to get a very good idea of the product you are purchasing.
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Anyhows I have sadly run out of breadcrumbs to throw....
Nah, they have videos up with external views of ships in supercruise and even hyperspace...
I think the use of external views in the marketing just vindicates the argument for external views in the game. I mean the reasons why external views are cool in marketing are exactly the same as the reasons why they are cool to have in game.
"Cringe"? Really? What a drama queen.
Yes, that video explain why external views could help player in a combat situation. But if all player can do the same, it's not an advantage. (or only with IA) And ED is not arma... Not sure if those argument can work with ED.
They can add external views and lock your ship's controls ... I don't know. But again, this is not really the subject here. I would like that ED is more precise with the external views.
What a terrible argument. Why are you and others campaigning for external views so hard, when it was already stated that they are working on an implementation that makes sense from a gameplay perspective?
Is this the forum equivalent of an impatient child repeating "are we there yet" endlessly? It doesn't get the kids to the theme park any quicker, and it's highly unlikely to get you guys to your promised land of space selfies any quicker.
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The thing I really take issue with is people trying to get out of discussion by saying that those who don't agree with their point of view are constantly defending every criticism. You cannot make a judgement on my point of view, or how I comment on other threads from reading a few posts in one thread. Because I do not agree with you or the OP does not mean that I am acting as you describe.
If you think that FD should plaster over their website DOES NOT HAVE EXTERNAL VIEWS when nothing on there says that it does, just to cater to a few people who may at first look think it might and then buy the game without doing any research on it, then in my humble opinion, you are wrong. The fact that you even reference fan made videos says all it needs to.
The only problem with this video (apart from the neck beard logic) is that Dayz doesnt offer a solo mode.
And for an example which is a better one, a game like TF2 which is also a competitive online FPS, offers taunt mode where you cant attack, you take the chance of being attacked but are still able to take 3rd person screen shots of yourself and your surroundings. It's also a better comparison because you're able to change the appearance of your character and may want to actually look at what you spent your time/money on. Valve also offer a suite of movie making tools in and outside the game which again, FD could do, but I understand the monetary constraints of why they wont.
To be honest I am actually a bit sick of all the apologists for Frontier and Elite
and the somewhat shoddy attitude towards some of the newer users from the more veteran users of this fourm.. Let's lay a few cards on the table first, I am a long time lurker but not often contributer to this forum. I love the game, I love the majority of the design decisions and I am having a total blast playing it. But the general stinking attitude here at the moment is to immediately jump on the agressive towards those who have a differing opinion or come back with snarky and generally stupid comments that make some of you look somewhat idiotic - case in hand, the guy who earlier said something along the lines of "do you get annoyed when you see a car advert but then realise you can't actually see the car when you drive it" (or words to that effect).. stupid stupid stupid. Lets get things clear, just because this is a simulation doesnt mean a 3rd person view is a bad thing - think FlightSimX or Prepar3d - hardcore sims that still have third person views - it's a good idea - and to be honest to those who haven't been here following the development it will be strange thats its missing since most sims have an external view these days. But the attitude towards those who champion this idea on this forum a lot of the time just stinks, some of the users here are of the mindset "whatever Lord Braben says is gospel". The argument being that a 3rd person view would be an advantage in certain combat situations. Maybe it does in multiplayer, but whatabout in single player offline mode.... oh forget that - another thing that was scrapped for the greater good (although it worked perfectly well in Elite, Frontier and Frontier:FE).. Still, maybe cut those who ask for it a little bit of slack, and expect a lot more posts asking where it is/demanding it - act the bigger person and explain why it isn't in - instead of sniping and making pointless and misjudged comparisons. If you are bored with the question about it, then just leave that particular topic and move along, there is nothing new to see here.
Also, just think of all those lovely lovely screenshots when playing solo that you can make, attracting a whole bunch of new users to spend their ££££ on the software and subsequent DLC.
and the somewhat shoddy attitude towards some of the newer users from the more veteran users of this fourm.. Let's lay a few cards on the table first, I am a long time lurker but not often contributer to this forum. I love the game, I love the majority of the design decisions and I am having a total blast playing it. But the general stinking attitude here at the moment is to immediately jump on the agressive towards those who have a differing opinion or come back with snarky and generally stupid comments that make some of you look somewhat idiotic - case in hand, the guy who earlier said something along the lines of "do you get annoyed when you see a car advert but then realise you can't actually see the car when you drive it" (or words to that effect).. stupid stupid stupid. Lets get things clear, just because this is a simulation doesnt mean a 3rd person view is a bad thing - think FlightSimX or Prepar3d - hardcore sims that still have third person views - it's a good idea - and to be honest to those who haven't been here following the development it will be strange thats its missing since most sims have an external view these days. But the attitude towards those who champion this idea on this forum a lot of the time just stinks, some of the users here are of the mindset "whatever Lord Braben says is gospel". The argument being that a 3rd person view would be an advantage in certain combat situations. Maybe it does in multiplayer, but whatabout in single player offline mode.... oh forget that - another thing that was scrapped for the greater good (although it worked perfectly well in Elite, Frontier and Frontier:FE).. Still, maybe cut those who ask for it a little bit of slack, and expect a lot more posts asking where it is/demanding it - act the bigger person and explain why it isn't in - instead of sniping and making pointless and misjudged comparisons. If you are bored with the question about it, then just leave that particular topic and move along, there is nothing new to see here.Also, just think of all those lovely lovely screenshots when playing solo that you can make, attracting a whole bunch of new users to spend their ££££ on the software and subsequent DLC.
Oh come on. Arma is a totally different type of game, especially when viewed purely through a PvP prism.
Elite is not primarily a PvP game so placing restrictions on the camera due to concerns over PvP advantage (most of which simply don't apply in space anyway) is crazy. The overwhelming majority of times external cameras would be using in Elite would be non-PvP situations.
I have a number of reasons I would like a 3rd person camera. First, I would like to be able to post videos on YouTube showing off the great environment created by the devs. Second, I would also like to see my ship, paint, damage, etc. Possibly for gameplay (knowing what I have to repair, understanding that many parts actually move as we play..causing some strain on our machines..and understanding why, NOT for tactical advantage..this type of thing shouldn't be available when fighting (obviously)), and finally for HUDless general screenshots for my desktop. Sorry my vanity, desire to show off the game, and desire to learn what the game and our ships do bothers so many. I have the same problem with other games for similar reasons that have limited 1st person views for 'gameplay reasons', when all I really want is opportunities to take snapshots 'through' my model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFu5qXMuaJU
Call of duty pls remouve all 3rd personne vue in this trailer cose as far as i know you cant play its as 3rd personne shooter
If you want to see gameplay , you dont look a trailer , you look at videos of gameplay
Call of duty pls remouve all 3rd personne vue in this trailer cose as far as i know you cant play its as 3rd personne shooter
If you want to see gameplay , you dont look a trailer , you look at videos of gameplay
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I'm sorry? What was so terrible about what I said?
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