External View [A definitive discussion]

An External View yes or no, Multiple choice

  • Yes: an External View for Combat

    Votes: 28 8.8%
  • No: This will break immersion fo me

    Votes: 117 36.6%
  • Yes: I want to know from where I am being attacked from

    Votes: 16 5.0%
  • No: the Scanner is all you need.

    Votes: 103 32.2%
  • Yes: a Simple external ship viewer None Combat

    Votes: 161 50.3%
  • No: Keep everything within the ship

    Votes: 105 32.8%

  • Total voters
    320
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You wouldn't just start another one would you NeilF?

Hadn't even considered it TBH. Undoubtably another would start, I suspect with someone asking a question about it, or pointing something out - I mean just over the past few days we've had the comments/discussion about dev.diary.#12.

I think there were about four threads on the go when I tried to unify them into this one.

Anyway, I feel this thread serves a purpose... If the mods feel differently so be it.
 
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Keep it to purpose, report those that find it difficult to be civil and don't bite back if someone decides that they're going to have a lapse in reasonable discourse and we'll be good.
 
It definitely serves a purpose, but if no more relevant information is being added to the thread other than whether it should continue, perhaps it has served it's purpose?
 
It definitely serves a purpose, but if no more relevant information is being added to the thread other than whether it should continue, perhaps it has served it's purpose?
I know I add to the OP when I feel it's appropriate; I updated it just this week for example. And I suspect it's existance prevents new threads being created on the topic.

Anyway, it's upto the mods...
 

Robert Maynard

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Other points you make will almost certainly be addressed, such as the ability to ogle your ship via camera/drones or some such functionality. We are darn proud of our ships and we want to eat them up with our eyes just as much as you do!

Looks like the devs have been listening.... ;)
 
99 pages of replies so I'm sure mine won't make much of a difference, but I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

An external view was one of the first hotkeys I went looking for in the controls menu, if only for the purpose of geeking out over the look and design of the ship. Would love to see this included at some point down the road.
 
As long as you won't have the traditional "flying in a 3rd person mode" option. If you can launch a drone for taking 3d vanity shots, that is just fine.
 
Whats a drone view? Like thru a CCTV fakey looking camera? Why not press a key and get a outside view, you dont need to attach it to a 'drone'? So can I get a 3p view of my drone too? SILLY...

As long as you won't have the traditional "flying in a 3rd person mode" option. If you can launch a drone for taking 3d vanity shots, that is just fine.
 
External view, yes of course. I remember the original BBC Elite with it's left right and rear views. Map it to the F2 key please, just like in DCS with mouse controlling the view angle and scroll wheel to zoom in and out.
 
YES EXACTLY! I wouldn't try and fly a complex sim from a 3p view with no hud or anything it'd be suicide. If anything it should be enabled in 1P games at the very least. And toggle for MP. But DCS does it perfectly you can change the FOV, Camera focus and even free float away from the jet so get the best out of it.

External view, yes of course. I remember the original BBC Elite with it's left right and rear views. Map it to the F2 key please, just like in DCS with mouse controlling the view angle and scroll wheel to zoom in and out.
 
I don't have access/priv. to access that post/forum :(

Are you able to shed any more light on Sandro Sammarco's comment? ie: It's context etc?

in short - there will be beautiful additional views available to spread the glory of ed. that sounds a definite, in time...
 
w00t! thats some good news. Provided no dogfighting imbalances of course (but FD should already be on top of that so I don't worry).

video artists rejoice! :D
 
in short - there will be beautiful additional views available to spread the glory of ed. that sounds a definite, in time...
Coming from a Lead Designer... that's great news!

So question is... in Beta to see/trial it?
 
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Coming from a Lead Designer... that's great news!

So question is... in Beta to see/trial it?

Don't get too excited...they are still talking about external cameras (probably attached to the hull of the ship is some form) and drones. ;)

Other points you make will almost certainly be addressed, such as the ability to ogle your ship via camera/drones or some such functionality. We are darn proud of our ships and we want to eat them up with our eyes just as much as you do!

So nothing new really. Still the same thing they have always said.
 

Lestat

Banned
At least it ether Camra views from the sides of the ship or the one that fly by can be drones. Which is fine with me.
 
So nothing new really. Still the same thing they have always said.

Seems pretty new to me. Just a few short weeks ago a certain comment was being heralded as the end of the discussion, with no external view being offered. Now we seem to get a comment suggesting they want to offer it just as much as (some) we want it.

But yes, I'm not taking anything for granted until I see the feature in game, but IMHO it's a comment that takes us in a good direction :)

And of course, as has already been pointed out, the latest video includes lots of external views, hopefully suggesting this might be what we can get in game? Fingers crossed!


EDIT: Love that external view in hyperspace @ 1:57 :)
 
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