Oh well, can I sell my £300 investment in this game to someone then as I just use an XBox 360 controller and am clearly not worthy of playing the game?
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Oh well, can I sell my £300 investment in this game to someone then as I just use an XBox 360 controller and am clearly not worthy of playing the game?
Doesn't mean everybody has to agree that FD are correct though.
Which for the record, I don't agree.
I'm even less worthy then, as I use a keyboard and mouse, I hate twiddlesticks with a passion.
That attitude. What's next? Maybe I am not allowed to cook food unless I have a set of expensive professional kitchen knives? Not allowed to listen to music without a dedicated hifi? Not allowed to watch movies without a 4K 3D TV and a surround sound setup?
That attitude. What's next? Maybe I am not allowed to cook food unless I have a set of expensive professional kitchen knives? Not allowed to listen to music without a dedicated hifi? Not allowed to watch movies without a 4K 3D TV and a surround sound setup?
It's a good job this is a game eh? and not a Sim
Right, so that's well over 800 posts on a subject that FD have already given their decision on, then.
Well done, everyone!
Also, Elite: Dangerous is not a space sim. It is a romanticised space game. Anyone continuing to use the word sim in relation to E: D shall be plagued by a cataclysm of small irritations.
Well done, everyone!
Also, Elite: Dangerous is not a space sim. It is a romanticised space game. Anyone continuing to use the word sim in relation to E: D shall be plagued by a cataclysm of small irritations.
While I am against 3rd person view during the Combat some kind of camera drone is acceptable for taking pictures of the ship and of the environment.
I strongly disapprove your idea of the requirement to buy special hardware to play the game. It should be possible to play the game with the minimal hardware necessary to use PC, i.e. keyboard and mouse.
Unless you are willing to sponsor such equipment as HOTAS, pedals etc. to anyone who wants to have them but does not have such opportunity due to financial situation.
OMG I agree with Oss!
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I agree BUT with the adendum that it would be a disaster if the controls were nerfed so much as to make KB&M the defacto superior solution.
Make the game playable on the lowest common denominator for sure, but what I dont want is a scenario where I end up using KB&M even though I have a flight stick becasue the controls are simplified so much that the point and click accuracy of mouse aim makes it a winner. (I hate to make it my poster boy for everything I dont want in ED (esp as I think it is a damn fine game for what it is) but again, WarThunder Arcade mode is the perfect example of this imo, where I play on KB/M despite having a joystick.
From what I can tell this is not the case, so that is great
I agree BUT with the adendum that it would be a disaster if the controls were nerfed so much as to make KB&M the defacto superior solution.
Make the game playable on the lowest common denominator for sure, but what I dont want is a scenario where I end up using KB&M even though I have a flight stick becasue the controls are simplified so much that the point and click accuracy of mouse aim makes it a winner. (I hate to make it my poster boy for everything I dont want in ED (esp as I think it is a damn fine game for what it is) but again, WarThunder Arcade mode is the perfect example of this imo, where I play on KB/M despite having a joystick.
From what I can tell this is not the case, so that is great
Well, its an off-topic. But I feel much more comfortable with HOTAS and pedals than with KB/M, however the game is still playable and enjoyable even with KB/M so I guess balancing is right. I was specifically asked yesterday to complete Single Player missions with KB/M (with my gaming mouse replaced by the cheapest optical mouse) - did not have any problems with completing Incursion.
Can't give rep...here have a virtual one! +1
Indeed. But this has been. In multiple threads. With a great deal of repetition. Of a very small number of views.
I think you have to look at the types of things you expect FD to change, given their stated views on what they intend E: D to be.
Or you can carry on peeing into the wind.
We already now that the game will be constantly evolving, I've said before but I am confident that at the very least *something* close to an external view will be added in time.
You simply cannot have a space game with an asset such as the universe that Elite will have without being able to show it in all its glory.
If the wind is going in the right direction , it can be fun peeing into it
To be honest, this thread has been a good constructive discussion, I think it needs to be here.
If that's the only way it can be offered, so be it...
But for the rest of us who want to participate in a universe with other real people, it will be a shame if a simple solution cannot be found by FD. I'm certain a compromised external view could be offered that would keep all people happy!
Indeed. And you are probably right that some sort of external/cockpitless/drone view will be added, as has been argued for and against throughout this and the many other threads on the subject. There. Done. Everyone can move on now.We already now that the game will be constantly evolving, I've said before but I am confident that at the very least *something* close to an external view will be added in time.
You simply cannot have a space game with an asset such as the universe that Elite will have without being able to show it in all its glory.
If the wind is going in the right direction , it can be fun peeing into it
To be honest, this thread has been a good constructive discussion, I think it needs to be here.
My point was that saying the same thing over and over again is a little pointless. FD have repeatedly said that the experience they are aiming for is you in the cockpit. Not a 3rd person view. This is unlikely to bend very far from that goal except where gameplay or some unforeseen limitation dictates that it be so.
To argue that this discussion is constructive is only valid up to the point that the discussion has been had, and that point was reached a long time ago in a thread far far away.
It is very much akin to the newtonian flight discussion. Have it if you wish but know that nothing further is being added to it by continuing it as all points have already been made. FD have the final say and have laid out the parameters in which flexibility can be achieved.
Right. Pee on, dudes!
Just letting you all know that I started a thread on various views (other than external) and I'd be really happy to hear other peoples thought on non-external additional views. This is not a hi-jack attempt.
This should keep this thread on topic and allow folk to discuss the related alternative view matters,
The thread is called
http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=14728
Rear, side views and weapons and cameras
I just remembered a video RobFisher posted in the DDF some time back: OMSI bus simulator. If you can get past the fact you're looking at a game that simulates a double-decker bus, it has some really interesting touches. Of particular relevance to this thread is the use of third-person view in specific hand-placed locations (e.g. bus stops) to give that sense of context without taking you out of the moment while driving.
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