Patch Notes Fleet Carriers Update Patch 2 - Downtime and Patch Notes

I understand your frustration, but It wouldn't seem fair for fdev to punish the players for their own own mistakes.
The last time they did that (that I heard of) was around 4-5 years ago.

No. Ive been posting here for years now and playing this game for years also. It wasnt 4-5 years ago and there have been various examples of roll backs for cheaters. check again.
This SLF mining bug was a know exploit listed on Reddit and this forum as well as Youtube. Players didnt discover it by accident, they learned of it and willfully used it knowing that its cheating. Frontier have rolled players back before and for the sake of fairness they should do it again.

Bugs and exploits happen and Devs fix them. But players who willfully use them over and over again to bypass the game rules are cheats.
Frontier have a duty to provide a fair and professional service to their customers and if that must include retroactive roll backs of cheated assets in game, then they are all the more professional for doing so. I as one of their customers expect this.

You will not change my mind and if Frontier want to keep long time invested players.. invested, they should not allow for a culture of mass cheating in ED to go unaddressed.
 
OK tested hotpost and mining is still fked up. Hotspots still not generating whats advertised apart from triple LTDS and tritium.
Anyone else wanna confirm? If so add this this bug report.

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/17370

I would have expected FD to at least fix the hotspot not generating issue, seem as though a lot mine in the game. Still screwed up.
Thx FD for fixing the mining issue, the only thing you seem to be concerned about is cmdrs using the mining exploit. Granted cheats are cheats either using cheat software or exploits and should loose all their credits earned while using exploits which I hope FD do like they have done with other exploits but at least fix the dam mining problem so that Hotspots actually generate whats advertised.

This is so god dam frustrating for miners.

Still just the bloody same even after todays patch.

Agreed. What's a hotspot? I can laser mine LTDs all day long, but good luck with anything else. I don't generally do much core mining because it's tedious and I can get LTDs faster.

That said, I decided to try for some Alexandrite and Void Opals. Single hotspots or double hotspots.. bah. Found a few cores, but not enough to keep me entertained. Ok, pick up and move to different spot and try again? Same results... Maybe rng is not on my side today, but what's the point when you can get one resource (LTDs) with little effort?

I'm not saying it should be easy, but it also shouldn't be this difficult.

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No. Ive been posting here for years now and playing this game for years also. It wasnt 4-5 years ago and there have been various examples of roll backs for cheaters. check again.
This SLF mining bug was a know exploit listed on Reddit and this forum as well as Youtube. Players didnt discover it by accident, they learned of it and willfully used it knowing that its cheating. Frontier have rolled players back before and for the sake of fairness they should do it again.

Bugs and exploits happen and Devs fix them. But players who willfully use them over and over again to bypass the game rules are cheats.
Frontier have a duty to provide a fair and professional service to their customers and if that must include retroactive roll backs of cheated assets in game, then they are all the more professional for doing so. I as one of their customers expect this.

You will not change my mind and if Frontier want to keep long time invested players.. invested, they should not allow for a culture of mass cheating in ED to go unaddressed.

I am 100% behind you on this one, all other exploits, cmdrs have had their credits taken off them, and this is no different, sorry if this upsets a lot who have used the exploit but tough, you chose to do that all on you're own and shouldnt reap the rewards of cheating from it like any other exploit. Tough y.
 
Agreed. What's a hotspot? I can laser mine LTDs all day long, but good luck with anything else. I don't generally do much core mining because it's tedious and I can get LTDs faster.

That said, I decided to try for some Alexandrite and Void Opals. Single hotspots or double hotspots.. bah. Found a few cores, but not enough to keep me entertained. Ok, pick up and move to different spot and try again? Same results... Maybe rng is not on my side today, but what's the point when you can get one resource (LTDs) with little effort?

I'm not saying it should be easy, but it also shouldn't be this difficult.

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Im talking about standard laser mining here not cores or sub surface, standard mining with lasers. Hotspots are yellow spots in ring systems that show high content of roids that contain whats advertised in the Hotspot, Im sure youve seen them and know what they are.
 
Im talking about standard laser mining here not cores or sub surface, standard mining with lasers. Hotspots are yellow spots in ring systems that show high content of roids that contain whats advertised in the Hotspot, Im sure youve seen them and know what they are.

Lol, yeah.. I was being a bit facetious... Hotspots for anything other than LTDs never really seem very "hot". Anyway, I would love it if some of the other resources were able to be laser mined... Oh well.
 
No. Ive been posting here for years now and playing this game for years also. It wasnt 4-5 years ago and there have been various examples of roll backs for cheaters. check again.
This SLF mining bug was a know exploit listed on Reddit and this forum as well as Youtube. Players didnt discover it by accident, they learned of it and willfully used it knowing that its cheating. Frontier have rolled players back before and for the sake of fairness they should do it again.

Bugs and exploits happen and Devs fix them. But players who willfully use them over and over again to bypass the game rules are cheats.
Frontier have a duty to provide a fair and professional service to their customers and if that must include retroactive roll backs of cheated assets in game, then they are all the more professional for doing so. I as one of their customers expect this.

You will not change my mind and if Frontier want to keep long time invested players.. invested, they should not allow for a culture of mass cheating in ED to go unaddressed.

I said 'that I heard of' but I believe you, I don't need to spend my time browsing the old forums :)
And I did not try to change your mind at all.
Again, I understand you but I stand by my opinion that retroactive actions on players activities can have serious consequences on the mood of players, but also for fdev (like having to setup a team to manage complaints, disputes, verifications, credit refound if unjustified,...).

Is it really worth it ?
You think it is, I understand and respect that.

But for me, it's not that important because at the end of the day, all these credits won't give them any advantage in the game.
 
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I am 100% behind you on this one, all other exploits, cmdrs have had their credits taken off them, and this is no different, sorry if this upsets a lot who have used the exploit but tough, you chose to do that all on you're own and shouldnt reap the rewards of cheating from it like any other exploit. Tough y.
Totally agree!
 
At this point in time, it is pointless for Frontier to roll back any ill-gotten gains through this bug/exploit/whatever you want to call it.

  • Combat logging is cheating - still not fixed
  • Re-log to respawn mats at Davs Hope or anywhere else for that matter - still not fixed
  • The original bug for this SLF thing has been in the game over a week now and who knows how long before it - and despite the patch, still not fixed
  • The economy is completely broken and LTDs have been milked since the end of last year at triple LTDs hotspots - kinda fixed but not really - just takes 2 hours instead of 1.5 hours to fill your hold up

If it was that big of a deal to Frontier, they would have literally pulled the plug after the patch failed to fix the SLF issue. As soon as an exploit or bug is discovered in any online game I have played i.e. WoW, SWTOR, etc - they don't wait for patch day, they don't wait for people to stash their bank accounts for a week, you get a 10 minute warning the servers are going down and that's your lot. At that point - at least in WoW and SWTOR from my experience - any naughty gameplay of certain players is rolled back.

They just seem to get round to fixing things eventually. How long was board-hopping a thing? Took them forever to fix that.

AFAIK, Frontier have pulled the plug once due to an exploit - which was something to do with rare gems I think although happy to be corrected on this point as I wasn't around in the beginning.

It just doesn't seem to be that big of deal to them if there is something broken which some players take advantage of. At least not based on their recent history.
 
We could have done, but it wouldn't have contained any information on what was changing.
Eggsploit still in game...
Introducing new bugs...
your patch doesn't contain anything (except that cosmetics stuff) so why should the info about it, right?

Obviously the devs are changed as often as the community managers and former have same less knowledge about the code as latter about their community.

A company of ignoramus clowns.
 
Exploits are in every game. That doesn't justify why gamers should use them. Report exploits to devs and ask them to fix. Most exploits take away the skill and time it would take to make progress in a game. It cheapens the experience no matter how you slice it. Developers have a vision for every game they make in how it should be played so players have a particular experience. They can't envision every possible exploit so depend upon honest gamers to report them when they are found. Yes, using exploits is a form of dishonesty. The player knows that's not what the developer intended and used it anyway to make progression or obtain hard to get items. What usually happens is that other players feel like they have to use the exploit to keep up with those that do and the situation just gets worse. Often times other parts of a game will be ignored by players trying to keep up with Jones in gaming arms races or money chases. Also, and it's the worse imho, developers turn their attention from other parts of a games gameplay and are forced to constant focus on a exploit. (Does that sound familiar?).
I assume most of us enjoy ED because it is as close to flying in space as we will ever get, we will never see solar systems up close and personal as we do here, we will never enjoy what it feels like to be a Han Solo as we would here. We want it to be as close to realism as possible. Because it is JUST a game, Fdev needs us to find and report these things to them and, honestly, inho, not post these exploits all over YouTube to show others how to exploit and cheat the game, others....and themselves.
 
  • The economy is completely broken and LTDs have been milked since the end of last year at triple LTDs hotspots - kinda fixed but not really - just takes 2 hours instead of 1.5 hours to fill your hold up


When I first went to the icebox I was going off incomplete info on where the "egg" was located. I'd been core mining by myself previously. Earned a couple B core mining but hated it. Wandering around the triple hotspot blindly looking for the egg that night I warmed a billion. I'd never earned more than 100m in a night before.

No SLF, nothing. Just hitting hotspots.

I had more fun in the icebox with other miners than any other point in the game.
 
Like trying to find a carrier parking spot at a triple LTD hotspot.
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