Frontier: give the FSD to ALL players, regardless of whether they took part or not

I think expanding it to the top 75% was a good gesture after the FC imbalance was pointed out. I would have been happy with just the top 50% - that wasn't a difficult goal to reach. They are working on the balance it appears.

Agreed.

Though that said, simply knowing about the imbalance going into it I didn't even bother, because on my own it wasn't a reasonably attainable goal.

Had it been set at top 75% from the outset, I would have. That's the only bit I take (slight) issue with.

Regardless, I'm only missing out on a single module that reboots 3s faster than normal, when to date I've never needed a time critical reboot. So in practical terms, I don't think I'm out much at all.

It does feel a bit off though. Eh, what are you gonna do?
 
I didn't bother because I did not have the time to reach top 25%, I would have if it were just the top 75%. That's my bad luck, Fdev doesn't owe me a tricked out FSD over it.

Fdev should have stuck to the top 25%. Now we have a bunch beggars demanding a handout. Forget about that.
 
So, let me see if I've got this straight.. There was a CG with a over-engineered FSD for the top 25%, which was a delivery job, and people complained that FC owners had an unfair advantage so the 25% tier was moved to 75%? And now some people are saying everyone should get the prize whether they participated or not? Entitled much?

It was a delivery run, I'd expect the FC's owners to have an advantage. As someone without a FC, I know I will have to work a bit smarter to make my goals. There's no real unfairness in this situation, FC's are available to me, so I have that option.

I'll never understand the constant bleating for 'fairness' in games. Historically, games were not fair, Blackjack is a good example. Life is not at all fair. I expect the 'rules of fairness' to extend about as far in to games as they do real life - which never quite seems enough. FDev got my money, they don't owe me a damn thing beyond what is legally required in the, modifiable by them, licence agreement.
 
You have - inadvertently I'm sure - penalised all those players that played by YOUR rules.

Many of them are now effectively worse off. Specifically:

1. Those that didn't bother to enter the CG as they knew they wouldn't have the time to reach the top 25%.
2. Those that entered but quit before 75% for the same reason.

If you are interested in being perceived to be fair (actually, just being fair!), and if you want to retain confidence, you should hand it out to everyone, and give the top 25% a paintjob or something, so at least their effort is rewarded.

As someone who did exactly action number 1. I'm not complaining, I chose not to do the CG and I paid the price for it.

Fdev should not do what you suggest, you didn't participate in the CG so you don't get the reward. There was a time when CGs were done for the narrative and world-changing decision they allow us to make and not for the baubles they can offer.

And please don't too hard over this, the last thing I want is Fdev to stop offering these little special things every now and then. Look Fdev needs to make a policy with these things and stick to them. Take this as a learning experience.
 
You have - inadvertently I'm sure - penalised all those players that played by YOUR rules.

Many of them are now effectively worse off. Specifically:

1. Those that didn't bother to enter the CG as they knew they wouldn't have the time to reach the top 25%.
2. Those that entered but quit before 75% for the same reason.

If you are interested in being perceived to be fair (actually, just being fair!), and if you want to retain confidence, you should hand it out to everyone, and give the top 25% a paintjob or something, so at least their effort is rewarded.
I'm just about over this debacle. FDev should give the unique rewards for taking part, not as a tiered prize. What's the point. They're creating a bit of competition between the player base using the inticement of a unique module as a prize then taking the competition out of the equation and giving the prize to almost everyone. Leaving some people to wander why they have wasted their time doing the competition in the first place.
If I was in the top 76% - 100% I'd be gutted. Why didn't that group get it?
What's so special about the 26% - 75% group?
To me it's just incompetence on FDevs part.
I don't know about anyone else but (as a top 25%er) if the next CG has a unique prize that is tiered to a top % I know I'm not making the mistake of being duped by FDev into competing for it just for it to be changed. Might as well just do as little as possible then carry on with other things.

Now I've got that off my chest I'll just take a deep breathe and let it go.

To me FDev have dropped the ball with this one and I shall be wary of anything FDev say in the future.
 
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Bunch of bad eggs cracking over this!

But seriously, don't think the drive should be given to everyone, even those who didn't even try. Maybe instead, Frontier should offer this same FSD again on another couple CGs so people can have another crack at it?

Another question. Is this FSD good enough to be worth all this angst?

I'll leave you with these thoughts, as I go play my latest completely free copy of Elite Dangerous from the Evil people at Frontier.
 
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But seriously, don't think the drive should be given to everyone, even those who didn't even try. Maybe instead, Frontier should offer this same FSD again on another couple CGs so people can have another crack at it?
That seems like a reasonable request and is well stated.

I don't enter into the Dangerous Discussions anywhere near as much as I used to but it's nice to see that the blaring and irrational sense of self-entitlement is alive and well in this sub-forum.

I'll just leave you with my favourite ED meme:

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I don't care enough to demand that FDev do this or that, but I'd just say that I am annoyed that FDev couldn't be bothered to extend the CG (by increasing the target goals to better suit the amount of effort pilots put in) like they usually do with almost all community goals when they miscalculate the targets.

Having a CG end 3 days early, when there is a serious reward on the table, restricts the amount of people who even have a chance to participate. Increasing the reward tier from 25% to 75% really did nothing to solve that.

Hopefully this same reward pops up again in a future CG (with properly adjusted targets), I think that would be a decent solution. I can see why they wouldn't want to give it to every commander now that thousands of new players have joined from Epic.
 
You have - inadvertently I'm sure - penalised all those players that played by YOUR rules.

Many of them are now effectively worse off. Specifically:

1. Those that didn't bother to enter the CG as they knew they wouldn't have the time to reach the top 25%.
2. Those that entered but quit before 75% for the same reason.

If you are interested in being perceived to be fair (actually, just being fair!), and if you want to retain confidence, you should hand it out to everyone, and give the top 25% a paintjob or something, so at least their effort is rewarded.
Sorry but no. I didn't take part in the CG, so why should I get something. It's the people that put some effort is what should get the reward.
 
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