Gamescom 2018

[VR jefranklin18]

Brett was asked about promised mechanics.

He stated that they were probably still planned. When the tech could handle it.

This is an open admission that Frontier tech cannot handle the big, open, landable atmo planets they promised. They can try and blame consumer tech all they want, but PC and consoles have handled large, open worlds for a decade now. There is no other logical interpretation:

Forums: What about these mechanics?

Brett: Probably still planned...just...when the tech can finally handle it.

Theres no other way to interpret that.

All your diatribing is going to achieve is to get Frontier to clam up even more at best and potentially cause some awkward problems for Brett at worst. Frontier's communications policies are beyond pathetic and their treatment of those that have bought LEPs is disgraceful, but to attack one of the few members of the CM team that actually engages in dialog is doing nothing of benefit and getting you added to multiple block lists I am sure.

The problems with Elite Dangerous lie with the game's executive team not with individual members of the community team.

 

[ries]

Its just very poorly worded, if he just said "Jup, we're working on these features." then it would be okay, but because basicly said "if the tech supports it" it sort of implies that they are waiting for tech to catchup. It would sort of make sense also why there is this big gap in major updates.

 

[Virgile]

Its just very poorly worded, if he just said "Jup, we're working on these features." then it would be okay, but because basicly said "if the tech supports it" it sort of implies that they are waiting for tech to catchup. It would sort of make sense also why there is this big gap in major updates.

It could be the case, maybe the could clarify this point... Always better to know.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Brett was asked about promised mechanics.

He stated that they were probably still planned. When the tech could handle it.

That's not what he said.

This is an open admission that Frontier tech cannot handle the big, open, landable atmo planets they promised.

Nope, it isn't.

They can try and blame consumer tech all they want, but PC and consoles have handled large, open worlds for a decade now. There is no other logical interpretation:

First, you are mixing level of 'large, open worlds' and fidelity and ridiculous distance of view FD aims for. Technologies are very different. And hardware requirements too.

Forums: What about these mechanics?

Brett: Probably still planned...just...when the tech can finally handle it.

Theres no other way to interpret that.

No. What Brett said, knowing he can't verify each point that list, that some of them might require considerable upgrades in used software technology - and possibly hardware too. Horizons upped hardware requirements more than 2 years ago when it shipped. Same will happen in future.

 

[Bunkerkind Anni]

It could be the case, maybe the could clarify this point... Always better to know.

Brett clarified his post later in the same topic:

Reply previously was more so of past-tense rather the upcoming generation (and soon to be current) of GPU's.

 

[Patrick_68000]

The Crusader in action in the last newsletter

https://imgur.com/a/eJ0y2hh

 

[BoggiBlanko]

The Crusader in action in the last newsletter

https://imgur.com/a/eJ0y2hh

Look at that awesome futuristic Tie X1 to his left!

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

The Crusader in action in the last newsletter

https://imgur.com/a/eJ0y2hh

That's some beauty shot.

 

[Patrick_68000]

That's some beauty shot.

Professional work of Frontier, of course

 

[Patrick_68000]

Look at that awesome futuristic Tie X1 to his left!

Impossible not to see it

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I already explained how they were useful for me. I doubt I'm the only one in that position.

Actually, you explained your outfit, not how they are useful.

 

[House0fDerp]

Actually, you explained your outfit, not how they are useful.

Not sure how rearranging fittings in such a way as to balance other weapons better while avoiding wasting slot potential doesn't count as useful.

Edit: Or for that matter how fitting them at all wouldn't count since I'd be using them, thus they'd be useful.

 

[Ignition]

Because tech evolves over time. He said he was talking about GPUs, and we currently have much better GPUs than 5 years ago, and in a few years we will have much better GPUs than now. The potato PCs in 3 or 4 years will have GPUs that are top of the line today, and powerful PC gaming rigs will have GPUs that will make short work of our current ones.

One of the hardest things when developing PC games is having to account customers with PCs ranging from 350€ potatoes, all the way to >3000€ behemoths. And no company can launch a game and say "to play this you will need a >1500€ gaming rig". It's not farfetched that things like earth likes or more visually complex planets will only be able to release when at least the majority of customer PC's can handle it properly.

Even NMS with it's super mario graphics had terrible performance at launch with it's tiny cartoon planets, now try to imagine an "ED class" earth like or other visually complex planet running on a current 150€ GPU.

This reminds when EA released Sim City in 2014 and they said the game had to be online only, because of the ammount of data needed to be processed and the cpus couldn't handle.
LOL.
Yeah, what really happens here is a lack of development from Frontier Developments.
We don't need to go as far as planetary landings or walking around, just seeing how the game was developed in this 4 years is enough.

 

[StuartGT]

I never understood what's the point of releasing stuff to the press behind closed doors... It's the press the target consumer base? It's the journalists who are going to buy the game and store stuff?

Even from the press point of view, what's the point of getting information that they can't divulge? Divulging information it's their entire business model, without it they have no purpose in the world.

The gaming public simply cannot be relied upon - they nitpic absolutely everything. CDPR learned that after their E3 demo then game release of Witcher 3: the ridiculous amount of drama over "graphics downgraded" for what was almost unanimously GOTY was astonishing.

Gamers are their own worst enemy.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Not sure how rearranging fittings in such a way as to balance other weapons better while avoiding wasting slot potential doesn't count as useful.

Edit: Or for that matter how fitting them at all wouldn't count since I'd be using them, thus they'd be useful.

In more precise words, what do you use your missiles for?

 

[House0fDerp]

In more precise words, what do you use your missiles for?

Shooting things.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Shooting things.

You know what I mean, I already know you'll shoot things with them.

 

[House0fDerp]

You know what I mean, I already know you'll shoot things with them.

No, I really don't. I told you specifically where C3 missiles would be a beneficial choice in fitting and we all know you shoot missiles at things to make them explode.

 

[Vardaugas]

I'm going to put a high capacity C3 missile launcher with drag munitions under the nose of my Corvette. Then every time I hit the multicannons, I will also slow the target down for better tracking. The C3 multicannon does take too long to spool up and barely ever gets any shots out.

 

[Viajero]

Well, for one the release roadmap:

https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/node/381

It's pretty clear that they planned to have it all released in 2016...

I do not think so, see 2.4 estimated time:

2.4 – ????

A secret to be revealed in Elite Dangerous: Horizons’ final expansion!

The sales end Friday February 12 (6pm GMT).

???? is simply no date given. Also, even in the hypothetical case it had been explicitly stated as "Winter" (which it was not), winter would have gone all the way to 21st March 2017 anyways.