Glorious HIPs - 3306

[Iron Body]

This week's results : edit: sorry, I forgot to include the slice number column.

Commander​	Status​	complete%​	δ complete%​	matched​	δ match​	not_found​	δ not found​	unreachable​	δ unreachable​	others​	δ others​
Pirin​	In progress​	99.80​	0.00​	301​	0​	126​	0​	72​	0​	1​	0​
Mooing​	Mostly complete​	64.20​	0.00​	318​	0​	3​	0​	​	0​	179​	0​
Varonica​	Complete​	100.00​	1.00​	358​	5​	107​	0​	35​	0​	​	-5​
Rampant​	In progress​	17.00​	0.40​	84​	2​	1​	0​	​	0​	415​	-2​
jjgoldberg​	In progress​	91.80​	0.00​	367​	0​	68​	0​	24​	0​	41​	0​
jjgoldberg​	In progress​	95.20​	0.20​	374​	1​	64​	0​	38​	0​	24​	-1​
Orvidius​	Mostly complete​	99.40​	1.00​	386​	4​	69​	0​	42​	1​	3​	-5​
Orvidius​	Complete​	100.00​	5.20​	408​	2​	68​	0​	24​	24​	​	-26​
Jackie Silver​	In progress​	42.40​	0.00​	173​	0​	39​	0​	​	0​	288​	0​
13A / 24B​	In progress​	23.40​	0.00​	112​	0​	5​	0​	​	0​	383​	0​
Jackie Silver​	Pending​	15.60​	0.20​	77​	1​	1​	0​	​	0​	422​	-1​
Varonica​	Mostly complete​	93.80​	0.00​	419​	0​	50​	0​	​	0​	31​	0​
Expugnax​	Mostly complete​	97.60​	0.00​	395​	0​	66​	0​	27​	0​	12​	0​
Expugnax​	Mostly complete​	98.20​	0.00​	422​	0​	43​	0​	26​	0​	9​	0​
Heavy Johnson​	In progress​	17.80​	0.40​	88​	2​	1​	0​	​	0​	411​	-2​
Gaesat​	In progress​	19.20​	0.00​	92​	0​	4​	0​	​	0​	404​	0​
Jackie Silver​	Partially complete.​	45.60​	0.00​	209​	0​	19​	0​	​	0​	272​	0​
Spaceman Si​	In progress​	26.40​	0.00​	127​	0​	5​	0​	​	0​	368​	0​
rOmiLaYu​	Mostly complete​	47.60​	0.20​	194​	1​	44​	0​	​	0​	262​	-1​
rOmiLaYu​	Partially complete.​	21.40​	0.80​	68​	2​	37​	0​	2​	2​	393​	-4​
SingleMalt Falcon​	In progress​	18.60​	0.80​	85​	4​	8​	0​	​	0​	407​	-4​
Mercury 13​	Provisional​	16.60​	1.20​	80​	5​	2​	0​	1​	1​	417​	-6​
​	​	21.00​	0.20​	95​	0​	9​	0​	1​	1​	395​	-1​
Factabulous​	In progress​	70.80​	0.00​	224​	0​	130​	0​	​	0​	146​	0​
Maelstrom5K​	In progress​	18.00​	0.40​	85​	1​	4​	0​	1​	1​	410​	-2​
Maelstrom5K​	In progress​	13.80​	0.40​	68​	2​	1​	0​	​	0​	431​	-2​
Bren64zzz​	In progress​	54.00​	0.00​	130​	0​	107​	0​	33​	0​	230​	0​
​	​	15.00​	0.20​	71​	1​	4​	0​	​	0​	425​	-1​
Rollo​	In progress​	20.40​	0.20​	102​	1​	​	0​	​	0​	398​	-1​
​	​	15.80​	0.40​	79​	2​	​	0​	​	0​	421​	-2​
​	​	24.80​	0.40​	121​	2​	3​	0​	​	0​	376​	-2​
Getedoi​	Mostly complete​	77.40​	0.00​	330​	0​	​	0​	57​	0​	113​	0​
Getedoi​	Mostly complete​	92.00​	0.60​	395​	3​	63​	0​	2​	0​	40​	-3​
​	​	23.40​	0.60​	117​	3​	​	0​	​	0​	383​	-3​
Preludeonlife​	In progress​	22.60​	0.60​	113​	3​	​	0​	​	0​	387​	-3​
​	​	31.00​	0.60​	154​	3​	1​	0​	​	0​	345​	-3​
Farran​	Pending​	30.60​	0.60​	152​	3​	1​	0​	​	0​	347​	-3​
MattG​	Mostly complete (*)​	99.80​	0.00​	428​	0​	44​	0​	27​	0​	1​	0​
​	​	24.00​	0.80​	118​	4​	2​	0​	​	0​	380​	-4​
yellowcavefrog​	​	38.40​	13.20​	160​	37​	31​	29​	1​	0​	308​	-66​
Expugnax​	Mostly complete.​	99.00​	0.00​	401​	0​	71​	0​	23​	0​	5​	0​
Varonica​	Partially complete.​	95.80​	0.00​	403​	0​	75​	0​	1​	0​	21​	0​
Getedoi​	In Progress​	66.00​	0.20​	264​	1​	65​	0​	1​	0​	170​	-1​
Maolagin​	In progress​	51.20​	1.40​	226​	7​	25​	0​	5​	0​	244​	-7​
​	​	18.60​	0.60​	89​	3​	4​	0​	​	0​	407​	-3​
Varonica​	In progress​	18.40​	1.20​	88​	6​	4​	0​	​	0​	408​	-6​
Jackie Silver​	Mostly complete.​	96.20​	2.00​	403​	0​	68​	0​	10​	10​	19​	-10​
Jackie Silver​	Mostly complete.​	90.40​	0.20​	396​	1​	56​	0​	​	0​	48​	-1​
Jackie Silver​	Mostly complete.​	90.40​	0.20​	388​	0​	63​	1​	1​	0​	48​	-1​
Jackie Silver​	Mostly complete.​	89.80​	0.20​	377​	1​	72​	0​	​	0​	51​	-1​
Jackie Silver​	Mostly complete.​	75.60​	0.00​	330​	0​	48​	0​	​	0​	122​	0​
Expugnax​	In progress​	54.40​	2.00​	199​	10​	73​	0​	​	0​	228​	-10​
Expugnax​	In progress​	49.20​	-4.20​	163​	29​	83​	0​	​	0​	254​	21​
Taketa​	In progress​	44.20​	-1.00​	218​	8​	3​	0​	​	-13​	279​	5​
Tuomasi​	Mostly complete.​	99.53​	0.00​	149​	1​	44​	1​	18​	-21​	1​	0​

We now have 2 completed slices. Congratulations !

 

[Maelstrom5K]

Here is an update on Slice 25.

Systems found, but outside the map (technically, it is possible to get the distance and trilaterate their exact position with a screen capture device better than my lazy "press print button at the right moment" method):

HIP designation	in-game designation	star types taken from GalMap	approximate coordinates
14866​	HD 19912	K0 III, L7 V, T5 V, M7 VA	2330:-19320:-15480
42744​	HD 73992	M1 V, M9 VI, T4 V	1240:16800:-21330
43280​	HD 75032	K3 III, M8 VA, K8 VA	200:10932:-13230
45233​	HD 79065	K2V	310:12611:-13010
52299​	HD 924	M0 V, L6 V	900:9581:-5060
17331​	HIP 17331	F2 V	1100:-11928:-14990
38232​	HIP 38232	F0V	0:11913:-22080
47603​	HIP 47602	F2 V	1070:14642:-12350
52851​	HIP 52851	K8V, G8 VAB	240:9989:-5160

Permit-locked systems:

HIP designation	in-game designation
22672​	HD 30936
23191​	HD 31797
20098​	HD 27235
23462​	HIP 23462
27638​	HD 248330
21304​	HD 28993
21102​	HD 28649
18560​	HD 25001
25207​	HIP 25207
20099​	HD 27270
23674​	HIP 23674
21871​	HD 29808
24302​	HIP 24302
28843​	HD 41318
26734​	HD 37650
24181​	HIP 24181
25151​	HD 35110
19556​	HIP 19556
21732​	HD 29602
24143​	HIP 24143

Systems not found in-game (although I usually only chekced HIP/HD/GCVS):

HIP	HD	HR	Bay / Flam	BD	CD	CPD	GCVS
27584​
21848​	284677​			BD+21 685
31050​				BD+36 1449
32394​	48564​			BD+37 1578
33919​				BD+39 1821
11517​							RZ Cet
39670​
26658​	37453​			BD+30 970			V0617 Aur
30699​	45085​			BD+35 1408
44465​	77376​			BD+43 1875
20990​	285846​			BD+17 736			UX Tau
42596​				BD+42 1910
30013​	43681​			BD+34 1318
25159​				BD+26 811
45247​	79095​			BD+42 1975
45244​
21831​	284726​			BD+19 756
47778​				BD+42 2043
43649​	75781​			BD+42 1940
26162​	36665​			BD+27 798			V1371 Tau
27825​
7816​				BD-19 290
26574​	37318​			BD+28 836			V1163 Tau
45790​				BD+42 1998
27492​	38749​			BD+29 1009
34741​				BD+37 1673
27786​	39275​
25556​	243809​			BD+26 821
18539​				BD+09 521
18540​
47280​				BD+41 1980
4505​	5630​				CD-26 311	CPD-26 75	CH Scl
26708​	37537​			BD+27 832			V1164 Tau
43210​				BD+41 1874
29301​	42176​			BD+30 1138
33821​	52003​			BD+36 1548
17335​				BD+05 533
32427​	263139​						GX Gem
6853​	8984​			BD-22 252	CD-22 509	CPD-22 166
27071​	246878​			BD+27 850
19886​	286647​			BD+11 587
27456​	38689​			BD+27 874
13435​	17953​			BD-06 566
40946​				BD+39 2091
14120​				BD-04 515
52906​				BD+38 2182
29407​	42394​			BD+29 1138
38738​				BD+38 1839			CM Lyn
35688​	57227​			BD+36 1608
28904​	41398​			BD+28 1008
22799​	286130​			BD+17 806
30697​	257132​			BD+31 1296
36313​				BD+36 1630
25413​
22225​	30284​			BD+16 649
29042​	251807​			BD+28 1015
39015​				BD+37 1812
31129​	258730​			BD+30 1252
36183​	58427​			BD+35 1613
28276​	249698​			BD+26 1020
23031​	31502​			BD+17 815
21533​	286878​			BD+13 699
24778​				BD+20 914
41771​	71867​			BD+38 1916
17615​				BD+03 524
20135​	286727​			BD+09 560
41457​				BD+38 1909
27858​	39435​			BD+25 1021
22510​	30710​			BD+15 691			V1060 Tau
13646​				BD-07 519
20062​	286671​			BD+09 556
60826​	108545​			BD+30 2273
13616​				BD-07 518
42306​				BD+38 1934
30388​	44512​			BD+28 1101
27847​	39416​			BD+25 1020
30835​	257674​			BD+29 1234
41368​
36694​				BD+35 1640
33049​
26856​	246421​			BD+22 997
7838​	10369​			BD-21 278
18284​
24000​	241111​			BD+17 857
26389​	37123​			BD+22 959
15743​	20963​			BD-02 611
19355​	26173​			BD+06 636
10571​	14045​			BD-15 396
40400​				BD+36 1770
43437​				BD+38 1966
28124​	249388​			BD+24 1029
36448​				BD+34 1621
26272​	36879​			BD+21 899
16600​	22109​			BD-00 565
28773​
28154​	39970​	2074​		BD+24 1033
58386​				BD+33 2175
60867​	108629​			BD+30 2279			IX Com
28684​	250757​			BD+24 1077
28472​				BD+24 1056			SV Gem
22266​
24386​	241771​			BD+17 875			V1158 Tau
27023​	38063​			BD+21 949
29454​
30304​
30306​	44328​			BD+26 1201
50206​				BD+37 2063
26281​	245199​			BD+20 1010
27627​	39048​			BD+22 1059
16543​	22034​			BD-01 508
55926​	99580​			BD+35 2255
13391​				BD-09 540
36753​	59924​			BD+32 1577
30644​	257046​			BD+26 1222
15995​	21303​			BD-03 549
46131​				BD+37 1977
26770​	37684​			BD+19 1014
30452​	44674​			BD+25 1251			PY Gem
30622​	45023​			BD+25 1272
32265​	48344​			BD+27 1212
35667​							RR Gem
	60178​	2890​	66Alp Gem	BD+32 1581 B
32209​	262389​			BD+27 1206
27979​	39678​			BD+21 1037
30857​	45485​			BD+25 1287
16582​	22094​			BD-03 572
23197​	31830​			BD+12 695
28625​	250642​			BD+22 1146			RZ Gem
31774​	47217​			BD+26 1300
29757​	43206​			BD+23 1270			PW Gem
30917​	45578​			BD+25 1292
29425​	42474​			BD+23 1243			WY Gem
35064​				BD+30 1464
27626​	248297​			BD+20 1133
29840​	43384​	2240​	9 Gem	BD+23 1275			PX Gem
27171​	247194​			BD+19 1058
11066​	14756​			BD-15 414
29450​	42543​	2197​	6 Gem	BD+22 1220			BU Gem
28541​	250389​			BD+21 1082
26043​	244772​			BD+17 950
30379​	256138​			BD+24 1239
17757​	23826​			BD-01 534
24785​	242509​			BD+14 872
21371​				BD+07 669
19714​	26691​			BD+03 572			V1138 Tau
29041​	41690​			BD+21 1120
29979​	43703​			BD+23 1289
19979​				BD+03 582
18226​				BD-00 615
58030​				BD+32 2201
17914​				BD-01 543
33506​	51294​			BD+26 1404
34522​
27911​	39588​			BD+18 1010

 

[Iron Body]

I finally figured out that there are 556,165 stars in EDDB that are not in EDSM.

 

[Orvidius]

I finally figured out that there are 556,165 stars in EDDB that are not in EDSM.

Wow, was it that many? I noticed there was a discrepancy between them too and have been importing missing systems into the EDAstro database from EDDB too.

 

[Iron Body]

Wow, was it that many? I noticed there was a discrepancy between them too and have been importing missing systems into the EDAstro database from EDDB too.

Yes, I was surprised. These are the full figures as at 17 Jan..
number of stars in edsm = 58,128,232 (including some duplicate names)
number of stars in eddb = 43,432,559 (does not have duplicates afaik)

number of stars in common = 42,876,394

number of stars in edsm only = 15,251,838
number of stars in eddb only = 556,165

stars in both EDSM and EDDB = 58,684,397

I also discovered for the HIP merging project, that it takes longer to create a common db file than it does to process both dbs individually.
Now I have the tools, I'm thinking of downloading Spansh's 36GB database to analyse that as well.

 

[varonica]

Yes, I was surprised. These are the full figures as at 17 Jan..
number of stars in edsm = 58,128,232 (including some duplicate names)
number of stars in eddb = 43,432,559 (does not have duplicates afaik)

number of stars in common = 42,876,394

number of stars in edsm only = 15,251,838
number of stars in eddb only = 556,165

stars in both EDSM and EDDB = 58,684,397

I also discovered for the HIP merging project, that it takes longer to create a common db file than it does to process both dbs individually.
Now I have the tools, I'm thinking of downloading Spansh's 36GB database to analyse that as well.

In the early days you could add data to EDDB manually, is it possible some of that accounts for the discrepancy?

 

[Orvidius]

I'm wondering how much of it is due to EDSM having started pruning older/unused data.

 

[yellowcavefrog]

Weekly update:
I'm currently a university student and classes began this week, so I will not make particularly fast progress, but I hope to still continue mapping my slice.

the following stars were not included in the data from last week, I am keeping data separate from week to week to avoid duplicate entries.

Spoiler: Additional systems not in game

HIP #
55947
54918
52570
51142
49609
48779
45622
45416
41329
29999
25146

Spoiler: Additional systems with custom names

HIP #	In-game Name
8240	120 Phoenicis
44626	E Carinae
45615	V478 Carinae
47591	V486 Carinae
49642	V495 Carinae
49926	V368 Carinae
50371	V337 Carinae
50676	J Velorum
51232	s Carinae
51849	r Carinae
52154	x Velorum
52549	Gliese 2083

Spoiler: Additional system with seemingly accurate old data

HIP #	In-game Name
46806	R Carinae

as an additional aside:

Spoiler: First discoveries in HIP systems

HIP #	dist. Sol	NOTES
42557	696.92	first
35308	1259.31	first, excluding main star
43476	1203.53	first, excluding stars and 2 planets
43408	1347.78	first, excluding stars and a planet
42820	1606.69	first, excluding star and 3 planets
40784	1630.81	first, excluding stars and a planet
26567	1896.3	mostly first
22102	1885.33	first
29660	1387.91	first excluding stars
22366	913.63	first on moons

I am currently revisiting systems visited too soon after the EDSM server swap, since their data was not properly logged/lost when reverting.

in total, this will put me up to 43 systems visited and 42 newly catalogued to EDSM (I think - havent been tracking how many are new to edsm, just checking the data is all on edsm)

once again, my working sheet is: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nUg2dYU8E2Zy7QSRDuwQBlEQBuxiMXKeP4SSdyX2HzM/edit?usp=sharing
I am keeping the summary sheet up to date, and just copy-pasting the new information here once a week.

Yellowcavefrog

 

[Iron Body]

I am currently revisiting systems visited too soon after the EDSM server swap, since their data was not properly logged/lost when reverting.

Yellowcavefrog

Don't forget that you can upload your log files directly to the EDSM website.

I do this occasionally when I realise I forgot to have EDMC running.

 

[Maelstrom5K]

And here the Update on Slice 26:

Systems found, but outside the map:

HIP designation	in-game designation	star types taken from GalMap	approximate coordinates
11996​	HIP 11996	B5 V, K2 VA	1530:13197:-6580
54058​	HD 95789	K5 V, M7 VA	1110:10330:-4310
53391​	HIP 53391	G5 V	1850:15548:-7040
12140​	HD 16288	F0 V	1710:-12125:-5890

Slice 26 has a lot of permit-locked systems:

Spoiler

HIP designation	in-game designation
21515​	49 Eridani
30055​	Gliese 231.2
24399​	HD 241890
18667​	HD 25163
29121​	HD 252248
29146​	HD 252390
18835​	HD 25433
29959​	HD 254850
18919​	HD 25542
30293​	HD 255925
19027​	HD 25697
30965​	HD 258394
31177​	HD 259160
31366​	HD 259736
31770​	HD 2611138
31908​	HD 261579
32447​	HD 263483
32465​	HD 263514
19476​	HD 26373
19540​	HD 26472
19555​	HD 26502
19626​	HD 26608
19873​	HD 26964
19906​	HD 27007
20141​	HD 27338
20127​	HD 27351
20439​	HD 27735
20463​	HD 27779
20764​	HD 28206
21299​	HD 29005
21326​	HD 29071
21501​	HD 29299
21509​	HD 29311
21696​	HD 29583
21739​	HD 29634
21572​	HD 29839
21944​	HD 29925
21981​	HD 29978
22005​	HD 29999
22061​	HD 30112
22230​	HD 30356
22346​	HD 30507
22483​	HD 30728
22635​	HD 30961
22642​	HD 30975
22636​	HD 30977
22628​	HD 30979
23417​	HD 32262
23448​	HD 32320
23469​	HD 32350
23473​	HD 32359
23723​	HD 32815
26151​	HD 36740
26239​	HD 36913
26798​	HD 37754
26994​	HD 38095
27146​	HD 38289
27544​	HD 38963
27856​	HD 39493
28268​	HD 40281
28519​	HD 40679
28692​	HD 41041
28709​	HD 41141
28789​	HD 41306
28903​	HD 41480
28978​	HD 41602
28968​	HD 41617
29000​	HD 41676
29040​	HD 41790
29254​	HD 42252
29310​	HD 42352
29364​	HD 42456
29519​	HD 42769
29661​	HD 43098
29694​	HD 43152
29731​	HD 43185
30014​	HD 43480
29849​	HD 43496
29981​	HD 43725
30052​	HD 43908
30070​	HD 43963
30364​	HD 44584
30400​	HD 44635
30460​	HD 44768
30586​	HD 45044
30612​	HD 45065
30613​	HD 45089
30663​	HD 45180
31261​	HD 46299
31909​	HD 47592
32023​	HD 47837
32331​	HD 48544
32383​	HD 48750
32958​	HD 50003
33203​	HD 50578
33399​	HD 51102
34172​	HD 53288
34545​	HD 54404
19595​	HIP 19595
19748​	HIP 19748
20166​	HIP 20166
20243​	HIP 20243
20587​	HIP 20587
20643​	HIP 20643
20871​	HIP 20871
20944​	HIP 20944
20958​	HIP 20958
21344​	HIP 21344
21429​	HIP 21429
21674​	HIP 21674
21740​	HIP 21740
21931​	HIP 21931
21996​	HIP 21996
22305​	HIP 22305
22307​	HIP 22307
22874​	HIP 22874
23103​	HIP 23103
23328​	HIP 23328
23537​	HIP 23537
24166​	HIP 24166
24207​	HIP 24207
24561​	HIP 24561
24588​	HIP 24588
24774​	HIP 24774
24802​	HIP 24802
25077​	HIP 25077
25181​	HIP 25181
25433​	HIP 25433
25507​	HIP 25507
25538​	HIP 25538
25866​	HIP 25866
26163​	HIP 26163
26223​	HIP 26223
26238​	HIP 26238
26867​	HIP 26867
27009​	HIP 27009
27029​	HIP 27029
27091​	HIP 27091
27119​	HIP 27119
27332​	HIP 27332
27543​	HIP 27543
27597​	HIP 27597
27934​	HIP 27934
28067​	HIP 28067
28456​	HIP 28456
28586​	HIP 28586
29184​	HIP 29184
25323​	HIP 35405
54414​	HIP 54414
26386​	HR 1908
29798​	HR 2235
29881​	HR 2250
23680​	W Orionis

Systems not found in-game (although I usually only chekced HIP/HD/GCVS):

Spoiler

30075​	43907​			BD+22 1280
25275​	243335​			BD+14 898
23485​	32349​			BD+10 697
30648​	45086​			BD+22 1327
60395​				BD+30 2263
44092​				BD+34 1926
42973​	74484​			BD+33 1754
57486​				BD+32 2188
43117​	74737​			BD+33 1757
28979​	251761​			BD+19 1212
29501​	42707​			BD+20 1312
47579​				BD+34 2017
31975​	47679​			BD+23 1455
30041​	43837​			BD+20 1369			V0963 Ori
19326​				BD-00 645
32678​	264152​			BD+23 1503
28708​	41101​			BD+18 1070
37201​				BD+28 1428
36581​	59509​			BD+27 1403
29566​	42841​			BD+19 1262
39939​
35065​
38586​	64232​			BD+29 1641
29775​	43282​			BD+19 1281
	24555​	1212​	32 Eri	BD-03 631 A
20312​	27549​			BD+00 734
42150​				BD+31 1842
43475​	75489​			BD+32 1796
13383​	17908​			BD-13 543
42826​	74185​			BD+31 1868			FT Cnc
53677​				BD+33 2059
9322​	12236​			BD-20 378
16486​				BD-07 619
25540​				BD+11 809			CO Ori
18498​	24889​			BD-03 645
34630​
6396​					CD-25 545	CPD-25 143
29186​	42069​			BD+17 1143			V1387 Ori
32180​	262433​			BD+21 1349			AD Gem
15027​				BD-10 639			UY Eri
24310​	33777​			BD+08 889
30428​	44697​			BD+18 1203
20473​	27800​			BD+00 741
36483​	59332​			BD+25 1689
32885​	49824​			BD+21 1399
43967​				BD+31 1912			FY Cnc
48920​				BD+33 1926
36907​				BD+25 1711
34356​	53791​	2671​		BD+22 1577			R Gem
32302​	48532​			BD+20 1550
19342​	26215​			BD-03 690
40075​
27725​	39306​			BD+12 925
45573​				BD+31 1960
28345​	40427​			BD+13 1065
38620​	64350​			BD+26 1673
24584​
32852​	49784​			BD+20 1589
22535​							EP Ori
53603​				BD+32 2092
24473​	242018​			BD+06 874
29127​
29988​							V1308 Ori
36350​	58989​			BD+23 1727
21349​	29106​			BD-00 724
27217​	38422​			BD+10 878
29832​	43481​			BD+14 1228
30417​	256418​			BD+15 1179
21045​				BD-01 657
42710​
38753​
36086​	58364​			BD+22 1680
36708​				BD+22 1717
46592​	82011​			BD+30 1872
30564​	44984​	2308​		BD+14 1283			BL Ori
24734​	34510​			BD+05 877
30722​	45314​			BD+14 1296			PZ Gem
28850​	251419​			BD+11 1019
16777​	22408​			BD-10 708
31404​	46595​			BD+15 1246			W Gem
28676​	41057​			BD+11 1007
52184​				BD+31 2173
45709​							RW Cnc
30620​	257145​			BD+13 1244
31306​							DX Gem
33230​	50664​			BD+17 1442
22591​				BD-00 789
5721​					CD-26 394	CPD-26 105
27034​	246981​			BD+07 993
26492​	245778​			BD+06 977
25255​	35316​			BD+04 917
32692​	49474​			BD+15 1330
12343​	16570​			BD-18 451
56088​				BD+30 2162			TU UMa
23222​				BD+00 913
	71151	3311	23Phi2Cnc	BD+27 1612 A

And finally, there are two systems with matching issues:

19621​

BD-05 848

K0

9,57​

0,87​

1149​

3745​

197,9937​

-37,6831​

2289​

HIP 19621 / HR 1279

35914​

BD+21 1590

G0

9,52​

10,42​

95​

309​

197,5072​

16,295​

87​

BD-12 1172

HIP 19621 exists as a system in-game, but HR 1279 has a secondary label as HIP 19621 as well. Edit: This was caused by a typo. HIP 19621 is HIP 19621, no issues here.
HIP 35914 links to BD-12 1172, the Spirograph nebula with the O7 V at its center. This is obviously not BD+21 1590, a G0 star.

Now the real exploring begins.

 

[Irisa Nyira]

I'd like to join in. I've been visiting HIP stars for a while now, concentrating on the low numbered ones - I've visited just over 9000 of those with four or fewer digits. I'm currently hopping around below the bubble in my carrier trying to find a route to HIP 82 (I don't think there is one, the closest system seems to be HD 666, and it's 690ly further), so I won't be able to start immediately. I would like to claim a slice though - is slice 23 still available?

I'll have to go through my records to see if there are any systems I've visited that have custom names - I've already noticed one. HIP 7 is in-game as Deeli's Point for some reason. It's not like there's anyone living there or anything particularly interesting in the system.

 

[varonica]

I'm currently hopping around below the bubble in my carrier trying to find a route to HIP 82

That seems quite low to be reachable, I usually find near the bubble once you get down to the minus 2,000 it starts to get difficult, but minus 4,000+ you would need to be seriously lucky, the only thing might be a path of HIP stars trailing down that way but unlikely.

 

[Iron Body]

I'd like to join in. I've been visiting HIP stars for a while now, concentrating on the low numbered ones - I've visited just over 9000 of those with four or fewer digits. I'm currently hopping around below the bubble in my carrier trying to find a route to HIP 82 (I don't think there is one, the closest system seems to be HD 666, and it's 690ly further), so I won't be able to start immediately. I would like to claim a slice though - is slice 23 still available?

I'll have to go through my records to see if there are any systems I've visited that have custom names - I've already noticed one. HIP 7 is in-game as Deeli's Point for some reason. It's not like there's anyone living there or anything particularly interesting in the system.

Yes, slice 23 is still available.
Welcome aboard.

 

[Irisa Nyira]

That seems quite low to be reachable, I usually find near the bubble once you get down to the minus 2,000 it starts to get difficult, but minus 4,000+ you would need to be seriously lucky, the only thing might be a path of HIP stars trailing down that way but unlikely.

For sure. When I got to HD 666 I found HIP 82 was actually another 730ly further. EDSM knew of no stars in between, and I couldn't find any in the galaxy map. (Not that that means there aren't any, as you know it's really difficult to find any stars at all when they are so sparse. I'd like to pick endlessfalls' brain about how they managed it - many of the systems down here were tagged by them). I've given up that quest for now, I'll try again another time (perhaps FDev will introduce a Guardian FSD booster for carriers).

The lowest I've reached is HD 6428, 4850ly down. Of course endlessfalls had been there first.

 

[Irisa Nyira]

Yes, slice 23 is still available.
Welcome aboard.

Thank you very much. Rows 102590 to 103589 in progress. Now that Jackie has left is there a different spreadsheet to update, or should I send my results to you?

 

[Maelstrom5K]

Here come two systems from Slice 25 with issues.

HIP 39392, in game as BD+03 3861, and HIP 51658, in game as Andbephi. Both are populated, but with a population of zero. They both are pre-discovered, but do not have a Nav Beacon. Thus I can't transmit the data to EDSM by honking them.

I have mapped the planets as a partial solution.
I don't have any ideas what to do about the stars. There must be (or must have been) a solution. BD+03 3861 A, BD+03 3861 Asteroid Belt A and Andbephi C are known on EDSM.

Any suggestions?

 

[Iron Body]

Thank you very much. Rows 102590 to 103589 in progress. Now that Jackie has left is there a different spreadsheet to update, or should I send my results to you?

There is no other main spreadsheet to update (yet).

Many commanders have created their own spreadsheets for just their own rows. TBH the main ss is very cumbersome to edit on the fly.
If your own spreadsheet can be shared, then I can connect to that and get the data from there. That is the easiest method.

Or you can post your lists here. All I really need are lists of stars with special names, not found, unreachable (pref. with coordinates).
You may also find some permit locked. The rest are picked up automatically from EDSM/EDDB as you visit them.

 

[Iron Body]

Here come two systems from Slice 25 with issues.

HIP 39392, in game as BD+03 3861, and HIP 51658, in game as Andbephi. Both are populated, but with a population of zero. They both are pre-discovered, but do not have a Nav Beacon. Thus I can't transmit the data to EDSM by honking them.

I have mapped the planets as a partial solution.
I don't have any ideas what to do about the stars. There must be (or must have been) a solution. BD+03 3861 A, BD+03 3861 Asteroid Belt A and Andbephi C are known on EDSM.

Any suggestions?

HIP 39392 is in the EDSM downlload. But the BD+03 3861 name is not in the main spreadsheet, which is surprising because many BD catalogue stars are.
If it had been then we would have picked it up already. Andbephi is already on EDSM as you said, but the name is not in the spreadsheet.

So, I have added both these stars to my named star list, and they will be included in the merge process later today.

A large proportion of HIP stars have already been pre-discovered in ED, but only a fraction of those are on EDSM.
I'm not sure about needing a nav beacon to transmit data to edsm. I've never scanned a nav beacon to do that. (But I don't see many nav beacons either)
If the star is pre-discovered, bujt not fully described on EDSM (or even present) then I scan the whole system again with the FSS.

 

[Iron Body]

Here are the merge results for comparing numbers of stars in EDSM vs EDDB

​	EDDB​	EDDB only​	EDSM​	EDSM only​	Common​	Total Stars​
Last week​	43,432,559​	556,165​	58,128,232​	15,251,838​	42,876,394​	58,684,397​
This week​	43,643,286​	617,501​	58,536,180​	15,510,395​	43,025,785​	59,153,681​
Difference​	210,727​	61,336​	407,948​	258,557​	149,391​	469,284​

Which is even more surprising than I thought. Both EDDB and EDSM have increased, both significantly, and separately.
It shows there are ongoing differences between EDSM and EDDB, ie there are commanders adding to EDDB and EDSM separately, and other commanders adding to both.

So whatever the cause of the discrepancy, I don't think it's a historical artifact.

Also, nearly half a million new stars added this week. Not bad considering the majority of commanders don't use these tools.

 

[Maelstrom5K]

HIP 39392 is in the EDSM downlload. But the BD+03 3861 name is not in the main spreadsheet, which is surprising because many BD catalogue stars are.
If it had been then we would have picked it up already. Andbephi is already on EDSM as you said, but the name is not in the spreadsheet.

So, I have added both these stars to my named star list, and they will be included in the merge process later today.

A large proportion of HIP stars have already been pre-discovered in ED, but only a fraction of those are on EDSM.
I'm not sure about needing a nav beacon to transmit data to edsm. I've never scanned a nav beacon to do that. (But I don't see many nav beacons either)
If the star is pre-discovered, bujt not fully described on EDSM (or even present) then I scan the whole system again with the FSS.

I mean pre-discovered as in all bodies set to known on first entry to a populated system by FDev (e.g. Sol), not as in I someone else has discovered the system before me. (Although Sol's bodies are pre-mapped as well.)

I run EDDiscovery, and when I visit a system that is pre-discovered, it just shows up empty on the main tab. A nav beacon scan updates my journals, and EDD can read them. Mapping a planet does update the journals as well, but only for that particular mapped body.
Before I sent the data for BD+03 3861 off any data to EDSM/EDDN, the system itself was known on EDSM, but only the main star, asteroid beld, 1 and 3h were known to EDSM. (Notably the eighth moon of the gas giant 3 h, maybe from mapping by the Raxxla Potato Hunt.)
First, I sent my logs to EDSM -> no change. Second I sent the event data off to EDDN -> bingo, update.

Nothing is of spectacular value in that system. No stations, no planetary outposts, and only gas giants/icy bodies. I guess after the "first mapped" tags were taken, nobody connected with EDDN ever bothered mapping it.

I tried to move up really close to Andbephi A, so Auto Scan should trigger, but it didn't in any way (propably because pre-discovered). I did not try zooming in on the stars in the FSS, that could be something worth trying.