Glorious HIPs - 3306

Iron Body · Oct 21, 2021

I have just updated the new spreadsheet. 384 new names were added.
Also updated the spreadsheet for unexplored stars by slice, I gave simplfied this spreadsheet to just show the slice number, HIP and HD names and their approximate coordinates.

I am thinking of reviewing the remaining slices with the lowest completion %ages, with a view to opening them up to a wider audience by grouping them together by galacttic region names, and indicating, for instance, which stars are easiest to reach using their approximate coordinates. If anyone desperately wants to keep their original slice areas, please let me know.

And here are the latest stats ...

slice	Commander	Status	complete%	δ complete%	matched	not_found	unreachable	permit	other
1	Pirin	Complete	100.00	0.00	331	125	42
2	Mooing	Almost complete.	99.60	0.00	364	108	26		2
3	Varonica	Complete	100.00	0.00	358	107	35
4	Rampant	In progress	31.40	1.00	155	2			343
5	jjgoldberg	In progress	96.39	0.00	388	68	24		18
6	jjgoldberg	Mostly complete.	97.40	0.00	385	64	38		13
7	Orvidius	Almost complete.	99.80	0.00	392	69	37		1
8	Orvidius	Complete	100.00	0.00	408	68	24
9	Jackie Silver	In progress	92.18	0.00	390	63	7		39
10	13A / 24B	In progress	35.00	0.80	166	9			325
11	Jackie Silver/expugnax	Pending	97.59	23.09	394	50	42		12
12	Varonica	Mostly complete	93.80	0.00	419	50			31
13	Expugnax	Almost complete.	98.20	0.00	399	66	25		9
14	Expugnax	Mostly complete	99.20	0.00	426	44	25		4
15	Heavy Johnson	In progress	33.80	0.60	164	5			331
16	Gaesat	In progress	33.40	0.80	161	6			333
17	Jackie Silver	Partially complete.	69.80	7.60	330	19			151
18	Spaceman Si	In progress	39.00	0.80	185	10			305
19	rOmiLaYu	In progress	58.72	0.40	246	47			206
20	rOmiLaYu	In progress	40.48	0.60	163	37	2		297
21	SingleMalt Falcon	In progress	48.50	0.40	223	19			257
22	Mercury 13	Provisional	39.08	0.20	186	8	1		304
23	Irisa Nyira	Complete	100.00	0.00	320	130	49
24	Factabulous	In progress	76.60	0.00	253	130			117
25	Maelstrom5K	Almost complete.	99.80	0.00	236	154	54	54	1
26	Maelstrom5K	Complete	100.00	0.00	197	95	43	163
27	Bren64zzz	Mostly complete	96.18	0.00	154	106	31	188	19
28	Animorx / Jacob99	Almost complete.	99.40	0.00	176	94	55	170	3
29	Rollo	In progress	31.06	0.00	151	4			344
30	Arnoldo	In progress	99.20	0.00	222	92	42	140	4
31	Arnoldo	In progress	97.40	0.00	311	81	30	65	13
32	Getedoi	Complete	100.00	0.00	345	80	43	32
33	Getedoi	Almost complete.	99.80	0.00	400	67	31		1
34	Animorx / Jacob99	In progress	97.80	15.40	413	49	27		11
35	Preludeonlife	In progress	42.60	0.60	210	3			287
36	Mooing	In progress	96.99	0.00	399	47	21	17	15
37	Farran	Pending	71.40	7.80	354	3			143
38	MattG	Almost complete.	99.80	0.00	429	44	26		1
39	Irisa Nyira	Complete	100.00	0.00	426	52	22
40	yellowcavefrog	In progress	95.80	1.80	439	40			21
41	Expugnax	Almost complete.	99.00	0.00	401	71	23		5
42	Varonica	Partially complete.	95.80	0.00	403	75	1		21
43	Getedoi	Almost complete.	99.60	0.00	398	67	32		2
44	Maolagin	In progress	88.96	1.81	359	79	5		55
45	Irisa Nyira	Almost complete.	99.60	0.00	403	75	20		2
46	Varonica	Almost complete.	100.00	0.20	399	87	14
47	Jackie Silver	Complete	100.00	0.00	406	68	25
48	Jackie Silver	Almost complete.	99.20	0.00	415	56	25		4
49	Jackie Silver	Almost complete.	99.20	0.00	407	63	25		4
50	Jackie Silver	Almost complete.	99.20	0.00	395	73	28		4
51	Jackie Silver	Almost complete.	99.60	0.20	411	63	24		2
52	Expugnax	Mostly complete.	99.40	1.40	409	73	15		3
53	Expugnax	Mostly complete.	99.40	0.20	401	83	13		3
54	Taketa	In progress	99.80	30.26	376	100	22		1
55	Tuomasi	Almost complete.	99.53	0.00	154	43	14		1

Iron Body · Oct 29, 2021

Here is a colorful map I made of all the unexplored HIP stars within 3000ly of Sol.
There are about 3000 stars on the plot. I don't know the exact number, but it is below 3700.
The yellow stars are above the galactic plane and the blue stars below.

the sectors are clearly visible. So there are bright patches where little has been explored,
and some blank sectors where almost every HIP star has been accounted for.

The coordinates are taken from approximations in the original HIP catalogue, not ED.
Although they are accurate to within a few percent, they are not precisely where ED places them.
Some stars will not have primary HIP names, but will have HD or HR etc names.

The data is also in the latest unexplored stars spreadsheet.

Maolagin · Oct 29, 2021

Neat visualization! I wonder if that cluster of blue in the mid-lower right corresponds mainly to unreachable stars inside the Col 70 etc locked sectors.

Iron Body · Oct 29, 2021

Maolagin said:
Neat visualization! I wonder if that cluster of blue in the mid-lower right corresponds mainly to unreachable stars inside the Col 70 etc locked sectors.

Non of these stars have been identified as unreachable or permit locked. So the only way to find out is to try and plot them on galmap or even visit them.
They shouldn't be too difficult to find on the unexplored stars spreadsheet.

Maolagin · Oct 30, 2021

Iron Body said:
Non of these stars have been identified as unreachable or permit locked. So the only way to find out is to try and plot them on galmap or even visit them.
They shouldn't be too difficult to find on the unexplored stars spreadsheet.

I had some time this weekend to look into this, since I was curious, and it seems my hypothesis was correct. Searching for the 344 unmatched entries in slice 29, 80-90% were either permit locked inside Col 70/Col 121, not found, or unreachable. I did take notes, so I'll post my results in a little bit so you can update the list.

EDIT: big table in the spoiler

Slice	HIP	Exists	Permit locked	Reachable	Name	notes
29	HIP 6123	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 8191	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 9053	-	-	likely unreachable	-
29	HIP 9302	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 9738	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 10807	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 12337	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 12422	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 12943	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 13489	-	-	likely unreachable	-
29	HIP 13769	-	-	-	Gliese 120.1 C	empty space
29	HIP 13873	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 14100	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 14323	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 14880	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 15195	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 15200	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 16010	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 16503	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 16680	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 17350	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 17463	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 18336	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 18509	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 19268	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 19837	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 20275	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 20451	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 20572	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 20717	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 20828	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 21241	-	-	-		other -HN Eridani B near HN Eridani
29	HIP 21418	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 21646	-	YES	-	HD 29593
29	HIP 21722	-	YES	-	HD 29703
29	HIP 21781	-	-	likely unreachable	-
29	HIP 21816	-	-	likely unreachable	-
29	HIP 21900	-	YES	-	HD 29961
29	HIP 21925	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 22076	-	YES	-	HD 30226
29	HIP 22113	-	YES	-	HD 30290
29	HIP 22158	-	YES	-	HD 30333
29	HIP 22195	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 22310	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 22374	-	YES	-	HD 30666
29	HIP 22631	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 22671	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 22679	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 22710	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 22731	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 22811	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 23009	-	-	likely unreachable	-
29	HIP 23083	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 23084	-	YES	-	HD 31836
29	HIP 23138	-	YES	-	HD 31903
29	HIP 23217	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 23458	-	YES	-	HD 32423
29	HIP 23612	-	YES	-	HD 32739
29	HIP 23646	-	YES	-	HD 32774
29	HIP 23755	-	YES	-	HD 32966
29	HIP 23928	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 23931	-	YES	-	HD 33291
29	HIP 23936	-	YES	-	HD 33290
29	HIP 24115	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 24268	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 24271	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 24278	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 24335	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 24343	-	YES	-	HD 34013
29	HIP 24357	-	YES	-	HD 34011
29	HIP 24427	-	YES	-	HD 34153
29	HIP 24618	-	YES	-	HR 1731
29	HIP 24630	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 24669	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 24675	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 25087	-	YES	-	HD 35161
29	HIP 25115	-	YES	-	HD 35245
29	HIP 25117	-	YES	-	HD 35244
29	HIP 25118	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 25311	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 25407	-	YES	-	HD 35698
29	HIP 25415	-	YES	-	HD 35720
29	HIP 25688	-	YES	-	HD 36168
29	HIP 25734	-	YES	-	HD 36236
29	HIP 25774	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 25939	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 26004	-	-	probably unreachable	HD 36715
29	HIP 26017	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 26073	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 26095	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 26119	-	YES	-	HD 36922
29	HIP 26302	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 26308	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 26406	-	YES	-	HD 37323
29	HIP 26416	-	YES	-	HD 37360
29	HIP 26552	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 26565	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 26602	-	YES	-	HD 37643
29	HIP 26612	-	-	probably unreachable	HD 37622
29	HIP 26628	-	YES	-	HD 37664
29	HIP 26726	-	YES	-	HD 37829
29	HIP 26784	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 26800	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 26858	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 26892	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 26894	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 26927	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 26941	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 27089	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 27136	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 27232	-	YES	-	HD 38577
29	HIP 27255	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 27299	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 27318	-	YES	-	HD 38712
29	HIP 27342	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 27506	-	YES	-	HD 39035
29	HIP 27509	-	YES	-	HD 39054
29	HIP 27678	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 27875	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 27880	-	YES	-	Ross 797
29	HIP 27914	-	YES	-	HD 39817
29	HIP 28073	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 28080	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 28133	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 28137	-	YES	-	HD 40147
29	HIP 28286	-	YES	-	HD 40476
29	HIP 28386	-	YES	-	HD 40687
29	HIP 28458	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 28533	-	YES	-	HD 40905
29	HIP 28553	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 28581	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 28598	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 28653	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 28739	-	YES	-	HD 41383
29	HIP 28805	-	YES	-	HD 41487
29	HIP 28918	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 28953	-	YES	-	HD 41797
29	HIP 28973	-	YES	-	HD 41814
29	HIP 29028	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 29046	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 29145	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 29192	-	YES	-	HD 42323
29	HIP 29237	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 29275	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 29324	-	YES	-	HD 42565
29	HIP 29409	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 29419	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 29423	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 29465	-	YES	-	HD 42849
29	HIP 29549	-	YES	-	HD 43050
29	HIP 29607	-	-	needs carrier	HD 43161
29	HIP 29634	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 29648	-	-	needs carrier	HD 43271
29	HIP 29653	-	YES	-	HD 43269
29	HIP 29738	-	YES	-	HD 43411
29	HIP 29797	-	YES	-	HD 43513
29	HIP 29971	-	YES	-	HD 43934
29	HIP 29983	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 30195	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 30204	-	YES	-	HD 44423
29	HIP 30214	-	YES	-	FR Canis Majoris
29	HIP 30674	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 30715	-	YES	-	HD 45495
29	HIP 30789	-	YES	-	V682 Monocerotis
29	HIP 30800	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 30881	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 30931	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 30986	-	YES	-	HR 2367
29	HIP 31024	-	YES	-	39 G. Canis Majoris
29	HIP 31087	-	YES	-	HD 46183
29	HIP 31088	-	YES	-	HD 46185
29	HIP 31199	-	YES	-	HD 46380
29	HIP 31212	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 31285	-	YES	-	HD 46541
29	HIP 31312	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 31338	-	YES	-	HD 46616
29	HIP 31352	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 31371	-	YES	-	HD 46738
29	HIP 31517	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 31563	-	YES	-	HD 47035
29	HIP 31571	-	YES	-	HD 47077
29	HIP 31709	-	YES	-	HD 47386
29	HIP 31823	-	YES	-	HD 47612
29	HIP 31851	-	YES	-	HD 47714
29	HIP 31855	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 31894	-	-	carrier needed	HD 47761
29	HIP 31911	-	YES	-	HD 47780
29	HIP 32078	-	YES	-	HD 48237
29	HIP 32080	-	YES	-	HD 48215
29	HIP 32116	-	YES	-	HD 48253
29	HIP 32403	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 32409	-	YES	-	HD 48959
29	HIP 32501	-	YES	-	HD 49205
29	HIP 32558	-	YES	-	HR 2508
29	HIP 32573	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 32585	-	YES	-	HD 49438
29	HIP 32724	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 32732	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 32835	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 32893	-	YES	-	HD 50067
29	HIP 32923	-	YES	-	HD 50138
29	HIP 32975	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 32979	-	YES	-	HD 50251
29	HIP 33014	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33058	-	YES	-	-
29	HIP 33163	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33180	-	YES	-	HD 50775
29	HIP 33225	-	YES	-	HD 50845
29	HIP 33237	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33243	-	YES	-	HR 2582
29	HIP 33257	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33278	-	YES	-	HD 51026
29	HIP 33361	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33381	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33391	-	YES	-	HD 51360
29	HIP 33420	-	YES	-	HR 2599
29	HIP 33437	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33441	-	YES	-	HD 51478
29	HIP 33562	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33568	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33663	-	YES	-	HD 52112
29	HIP 33665	-	YES	-	HD 52131
29	HIP 33729	-	YES	-	HD 52312
29	HIP 33754	-	YES	-	HR 2627
29	HIP 33786	-	YES	-	HD 52379
29	HIP 33836	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 33874	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 33905	-	YES	-	HD 52772
29	HIP 33968	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34007	-	YES	-	HD 53056
29	HIP 34010	-	YES	-	HD 53033
29	HIP 34032	-	YES	-	HD 53085
29	HIP 34049	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34086	-	YES	-	HR 2655
29	HIP 34100	-	YES	-	HD 53238
29	HIP 34135	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34225	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34299	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34363	-	YES	-	HD 54054
29	HIP 34421	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 34525	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34541	-	-	-	V651 Monoceros
29	HIP 34649	-	YES	-	HD 54929
29	HIP 34694	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34876	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34935	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 34990	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 35038	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 35322	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 35469	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 35765	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 35810	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 35895	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 36004	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 36394	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 36613	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 37026	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 37142	-	-	probably unreachable	HD 61174
29	HIP 37219	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 37422	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 37532	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 37553	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 37883	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 37897	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 38099	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 38124	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 38305	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 38361	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 38617	-	-	probably unreachable	HD 64513
29	HIP 38793	-	-	probably unreachable	HD 64917
29	HIP 38882	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 38915	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 38922	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 38987	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 39237	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 39458	-	-	needs carrier	HD 66513
29	HIP 39540	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 39635	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 39664	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 40097	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 40186	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 40247	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 40351	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 40425	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 40469	-	-	needs carrier	HD 69178
29	HIP 40473	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 40820	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 41129	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 41183	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 41200	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 41204	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 41240	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 41508	-	-	unreachable	HD 71515
29	HIP 41605	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 41699	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 41705	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 42173	-	-	-	6 G. Cancri B
29	HIP 42318	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 42672	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 42762	-	-	-		appears as GL 319 C near LFT 601
29	HIP 42804	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 42807	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 42921	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 43047	-	-	unreachable	HD 74782
29	HIP 43406	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 43416	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 43637	-	-	probably unreachable	HD 75937
29	HIP 44539	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 45065	-	-	needs carrier	HD 78823
29	HIP 45197	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 45300	-	-	probably unreachable	-
29	HIP 45538	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 45684	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 46415	-	-	-	Gliese 3557
29	HIP 46896	-	-	probably unreachable	-
29	HIP 47368	-	-	probably unreachable	HD 83479
29	HIP 47887	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 48300	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 48406	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 48577	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 48736	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 49007	-	-	probably unreachable	-
29	HIP 49407	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 49410	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 50425	-	-	needs carrier	HD 89196
29	HIP 50445	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 51020	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 51404	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 52042	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 52479	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 52553	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 52747	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 53198	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 53472	-	-	-	-
29	HIP 55747	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 56239	NO	-	-	-
29	HIP 58102	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 58628	-	-	unreachable	-
29	HIP 59022	-	-	probably unreachable	HD 105102
29	HIP 59335	NO	-	-	-

Note that in that table, if the star exists but the name is "-", that means I didn't note the name on the map being different from HIP xyz. Definitely missed a handful that are actually HD abc, since I didn't make any notes on stars that were neither locked nor otherwise notable.

Iron Body · Dec 6, 2021

I have again just updated the new spreadsheet. 675 new names were added.
Also updated the spreadsheet for unexplored stars by slice - 3000+ stars remaining.

Despite the fairly long time since the previous update, significant progress is still being maintained.
Thanks to Maolagin's data in the previous post, slice 29 has seen a 55% jump in stars identified.

Also, I have plotted a route though the remaining 3000+ unexplored stars on the spreadsheet and have been following that route as it winds its' way close to the bubble. This route is independent of the slices, so many slices have been crossed.
It is slow going following this route even though many of the stars are less than 200ly apart.
I aim only to do the first thousand on the route, and I am currently on about star 400 out of the 1000.
I will publish the remaining route as soon as possible. Probably split into a number of smaller routes about 500 stars long.
If you can't wait, all the stars and approximate positions are on the unexplored stars spreadsheet.

slice	Commander	Status	complete%	δ complete%	matched	not_found	unreachable	permit	other
1	Pirin	Complete	100.00	0.00	331	125	42
2	Mooing	Almost complete.	99.60	0.00	364	108	26		2
3	Varonica	Complete	100.00	0.00	358	107	35
4	Rampant	In progress	50.60	19.20	243	4	6		247
5	jjgoldberg	In progress	97.19	0.80	393	68	23		14
6	jjgoldberg	Mostly complete.	97.40	0.00	385	64	38		13
7	Orvidius	Almost complete.	99.80	0.00	392	69	37		1
8	Orvidius	Complete	100.00	0.00	408	68	24
9	Jackie Silver	In progress	93.19	1.00	394	63	8		34
10	13A / 24B	In progress	43.40	8.40	200	10	7		283
11	Jackie Silver/expugnax	Almost complete.	98.19	0.60	397	50	42		9
12	Varonica	Mostly complete	93.80	0.00	419	50			31
13	Expugnax	Almost complete.	98.80	0.60	402	66	25		6
14	Expugnax	Mostly complete	99.40	0.20	427	44	25		3
15	Heavy Johnson	In progress	46.60	12.80	227	6			267
16	Gaesat	In progress	47.40	14.00	230	7			263
17	Jackie Silver	Partially complete.	83.60	13.80	399	19			82
18	Spaceman Si	In progress	45.40	6.40	216	11			273
19	rOmiLaYu	In progress	63.53	4.81	269	47	1		182
20	rOmiLaYu	In progress	44.69	4.21	182	39	2		276
21	SingleMalt Falcon	In progress	49.50	1.00	228	19			252
22	Mercury 13	Provisional	41.68	2.61	198	9	1		291
23	Irisa Nyira	Complete	100.00	0.00	320	130	49
24	Factabulous	In progress	77.00	0.40	255	130			115
25	Maelstrom5K	Almost complete.	99.80	0.00	236	154	54	54	1
26	Maelstrom5K	Complete	100.00	0.00	197	95	43	163
27	Bren64zzz	Mostly complete	96.18	0.00	154	106	31	188	19
28	Animorx / Jacob99	Almost complete.	99.40	0.00	177	94	54	170	3
29	Rollo	In progress	86.57	55.51	155	94	36	147	67
30	Arnoldo	In progress	99.40	0.20	223	92	42	140	3
31	Arnoldo	In progress	97.80	0.40	312	81	31	65	11
32	Getedoi	Complete	100.00	0.00	345	80	43	32
33	Getedoi	Almost complete.	99.80	0.00	400	67	31		1
34	Animorx / Jacob99	In progress	97.80	0.00	413	49	27		11
35	Preludeonlife	In progress	44.40	1.80	217	4	1		278
36	Mooing	In progress	96.99	0.00	399	47	21	17	15
37	Farran	In progress	79.20	7.80	392	4			104
38	MattG	Complete	100.00	0.20	430	44	26
39	Irisa Nyira	Complete	100.00	0.00	426	52	22
40	yellowcavefrog	In progress	95.80	0.00	439	40			21
41	Expugnax	Almost complete.	99.00	0.00	401	71	23		5
42	Varonica	Partially complete.	96.00	0.20	404	75	1		20
43	Getedoi	Almost complete.	99.60	0.00	398	67	32		2
44	Maolagin	In progress	88.96	0.00	359	79	5		55
45	Irisa Nyira	Almost complete.	99.80	0.20	404	75	20		1
46	Varonica	Complete	100.00	0.00	399	87	14
47	Jackie Silver	Complete	100.00	0.00	406	68	25
48	Jackie Silver	Almost complete.	99.40	0.20	416	56	25		3
49	Jackie Silver	Almost complete.	99.20	0.00	407	63	25		4
50	Jackie Silver	Almost complete.	99.20	0.00	395	73	28		4
51	Jackie Silver	Almost complete.	99.80	0.20	412	63	24		1
52	Expugnax	Mostly complete.	99.80	0.40	411	73	15		1
53	Expugnax	Mostly complete.	99.40	0.00	401	83	13		3
54	Taketa	In progress	99.80	0.00	376	100	22		1
55	Tuomasi	Complete	100.00	0.47	155	43	14
		Totals

Arnoldo · Dec 7, 2021

Iron Body said:
I have again just updated the new spreadsheet. 675 new names were added.
Also updated the spreadsheet for unexplored stars by slice - 3000+ stars remaining.

Despite the fairly long time since the previous update, significant progress is still being maintained.
Thanks to Maolagin's data in the previous post, slice 29 has seen a 55% jump in stars identified.

Also, I have plotted a route though the remaining 3000+ unexplored stars on the spreadsheet and have been following that route as it winds its' way close to the bubble. This route is independent of the slices, so many slices have been crossed.
It is slow going following this route even though many of the stars are less than 200ly apart.
I aim only to do the first thousand on the route, and I am currently on about star 400 out of the 1000.
I will publish the remaining route as soon as possible. Probably split into a number of smaller routes about 500 stars long.
If you can't wait, all the stars and approximate positions are on the unexplored stars spreadsheet.

slice
Commander
Status
complete%
δ complete%
matched
not_found
unreachable
permit
other
1
Pirin
Complete
100.00
0.00
331
125
42

2
Mooing
Almost complete.
99.60
0.00
364
108
26

2
3
Varonica
Complete
100.00
0.00
358
107
35

4
Rampant
In progress
50.60
19.20
243
4
6

247
5
jjgoldberg
In progress
97.19
0.80
393
68
23

14
6
jjgoldberg
Mostly complete.
97.40
0.00
385
64
38

13
7
Orvidius
Almost complete.
99.80
0.00
392
69
37

1
8
Orvidius
Complete
100.00
0.00
408
68
24

9
Jackie Silver
In progress
93.19
1.00
394
63
8

34
10
13A / 24B
In progress
43.40
8.40
200
10
7

283
11
Jackie Silver/expugnax
Almost complete.
98.19
0.60
397
50
42

9
12
Varonica
Mostly complete
93.80
0.00
419
50

31
13
Expugnax
Almost complete.
98.80
0.60
402
66
25

6
14
Expugnax
Mostly complete
99.40
0.20
427
44
25

3
15
Heavy Johnson
In progress
46.60
12.80
227
6

267
16
Gaesat
In progress
47.40
14.00
230
7

263
17
Jackie Silver
Partially complete.
83.60
13.80
399
19

82
18
Spaceman Si
In progress
45.40
6.40
216
11

273
19
rOmiLaYu
In progress
63.53
4.81
269
47
1

182
20
rOmiLaYu
In progress
44.69
4.21
182
39
2

276
21
SingleMalt Falcon
In progress
49.50
1.00
228
19

252
22
Mercury 13
Provisional
41.68
2.61
198
9
1

291
23
Irisa Nyira
Complete
100.00
0.00
320
130
49

24
Factabulous
In progress
77.00
0.40
255
130

115
25
Maelstrom5K
Almost complete.
99.80
0.00
236
154
54
54
1
26
Maelstrom5K
Complete
100.00
0.00
197
95
43
163

27
Bren64zzz
Mostly complete
96.18
0.00
154
106
31
188
19
28
Animorx / Jacob99
Almost complete.
99.40
0.00
177
94
54
170
3
29
Rollo
In progress
86.57
55.51
155
94
36
147
67
30
Arnoldo
In progress
99.40
0.20
223
92
42
140
3
31
Arnoldo
In progress
97.80
0.40
312
81
31
65
11
32
Getedoi
Complete
100.00
0.00
345
80
43
32

33
Getedoi
Almost complete.
99.80
0.00
400
67
31

1
34
Animorx / Jacob99
In progress
97.80
0.00
413
49
27

11
35
Preludeonlife
In progress
44.40
1.80
217
4
1

278
36
Mooing
In progress
96.99
0.00
399
47
21
17
15
37
Farran
In progress
79.20
7.80
392
4

104
38
MattG
Complete
100.00
0.20
430
44
26

39
Irisa Nyira
Complete
100.00
0.00
426
52
22

40
yellowcavefrog
In progress
95.80
0.00
439
40

21
41
Expugnax
Almost complete.
99.00
0.00
401
71
23

5
42
Varonica
Partially complete.
96.00
0.20
404
75
1

20
43
Getedoi
Almost complete.
99.60
0.00
398
67
32

2
44
Maolagin
In progress
88.96
0.00
359
79
5

55
45
Irisa Nyira
Almost complete.
99.80
0.20
404
75
20

1
46
Varonica
Complete
100.00
0.00
399
87
14

47
Jackie Silver
Complete
100.00
0.00
406
68
25

48
Jackie Silver
Almost complete.
99.40
0.20
416
56
25

3
49
Jackie Silver
Almost complete.
99.20
0.00
407
63
25

4
50
Jackie Silver
Almost complete.
99.20
0.00
395
73
28

4
51
Jackie Silver
Almost complete.
99.80
0.20
412
63
24

1
52
Expugnax
Mostly complete.
99.80
0.40
411
73
15

1
53
Expugnax
Mostly complete.
99.40
0.00
401
83
13

3
54
Taketa
In progress
99.80
0.00
376
100
22

1
55
Tuomasi
Complete
100.00
0.47
155
43
14

Totals

Thanks for the update Cmdr..

Re slices 30 and 31 - I believe these are complete - I've visited all systems that can be reached by ship or FC and have identified those that cannot be reached. Unless I've missed something, these should be marked as complete..

If I have missed anything, let me know what and I'll rectify as soon as I've finished Jackie Silver's slice 17 (may want to update the sheet as JS isn't in game any more).

07... Cmdr A

Iron Body · Dec 7, 2021

Arnoldo said:
Thanks for the update Cmdr..

Re slices 30 and 31 - I believe these are complete - I've visited all systems that can be reached by ship or FC and have identified those that cannot be reached. Unless I've missed something, these should be marked as complete..

If I have missed anything, let me know what and I'll rectify as soon as I've finished Jackie Silver's slice 17 (may want to update the sheet as JS isn't in game any more).

07... Cmdr A

I found 14 stars missing from the merge....

30 HIP 17712 not found
30 HIP 31700 8 Nu-3 Canis Majoris not 8 Nu-2 Canis Majoris
30 HIP 9552 not found

31 HIP 20943 CT Eridani B , exists but get plot error
31 HIP 24263 HD 33935, unreachable (7490,-6123,-5740)
31 HIP 31593 not found
31 HIP 33316 97 G. Canis Major ,unreachable (4590,-889,-3300) FC?
31 HIP 35305 NGC 2360 MCL 13
31 HIP 37379 140 Puppis
31 HIP 37772 Faust 538
31 HIP 42835 F Hydrae
31 HIP 48552 9 Sextantis
31 HIP 6215 not found
31 HIP 8698 not found

For one reason or another (probably me) these stars were not listed on the appropriate reference files.
But I have now added them to the unreachable,not found and named stars files as appropiate.

They will be included in the next analysis.

Arnoldo · Dec 9, 2021

Iron Body said:
I found 14 stars missing from the merge....

30 HIP 17712 not found
30 HIP 31700 8 Nu-3 Canis Majoris not 8 Nu-2 Canis Majoris
30 HIP 9552 not found

31 HIP 20943 CT Eridani B , exists but get plot error
31 HIP 24263 HD 33935, unreachable (7490,-6123,-5740)
31 HIP 31593 not found
31 HIP 33316 97 G. Canis Major ,unreachable (4590,-889,-3300) FC?
31 HIP 35305 NGC 2360 MCL 13
31 HIP 37379 140 Puppis
31 HIP 37772 Faust 538
31 HIP 42835 F Hydrae
31 HIP 48552 9 Sextantis
31 HIP 6215 not found
31 HIP 8698 not found

For one reason or another (probably me) these stars were not listed on the appropriate reference files.
But I have now added them to the unreachable,not found and named stars files as appropiate.

They will be included in the next analysis.

Thanks Cmdr, much appreciated

varonica · Dec 11, 2021

Very nice. Since taking a break from doing the HIP stars I have been visiting as many of the unvisited KOI catalog stars as possible, up in the thousands now. I made a surprising discovery, many of the stars in the KOI catalog were already in EDSM but with bad data. Some system had all the planets and stars recorded correctly, but no first discovery name attached to them. Others had a first visitor name attached but no body information at all, no stars, no planets or moons. So basically a blank entry with just a system name.

This of course set me back quite a bit and I found myself adding a lot of systems that otherwise were already in EDSM simply to correct the bad data. With Orvidius help in pulling a list of systems with no primary stars listed I started redoing areas I had already finished. Altogether the list Orvidius made for me came to over 20 millions systems without a main star listed and also presumably with no data on other bodies in the systems.

I've done a quick check and the number of HIP catalog stars in this list comes to around 6,000, which is rather annoying when looking at all the effort put in to update the EDSM database with the HIP catalog stars.

For instance entering HIP 99447 in EDSM will give us this;

The name of the first discoverer Pingouin Masque and the system coordinates, but no star, no planets, no moons and no asteroid belts.

I don't know about any of you but I find after all the work I and other have put in on the HIP project this just leaves a feeling of a half done job. If no-one else has the desire to do so I may just have to visit all these unfinished systems myself.

Anyway I am now a good way through my current project so if you are still going when I finish I will be available to help finish off, I just needed a break from the HIP stars for a while and this has been quite an enjoyable experience, what with finding Via Gravitatis and all. Well just touching base with you all, have fun.

Arnoldo · Dec 11, 2021

varonica said:
Very nice. Since taking a break from doing the HIP stars I have been visiting as many of the unvisited KOI catalog stars as possible, up in the thousands now. I made a surprising discovery, many of the stars in the KOI catalog were already in EDSM but with bad data. Some system had all the planets and stars recorded correctly, but no first discovery name attached to them. Others had a first visitor name attached but no body information at all, no stars, no planets or moons. So basically a blank entry with just a system name.

This of course set me back quite a bit and I found myself adding a lot of systems that otherwise were already in EDSM simply to correct the bad data. With Orvidius help in pulling a list of systems with no primary stars listed I started redoing areas I had already finished. Altogether the list Orvidius made for me came to over 20 millions systems without a main star listed and also presumably with no data on other bodies in the systems.

I've done a quick check and the number of HIP catalog stars in this list comes to around 6,000, which is rather annoying when looking at all the effort put in to update the EDSM database with the HIP catalog stars.

For instance entering HIP 99447 in EDSM will give us this;

View attachment 280104

The name of the first discoverer Pingouin Masque and the system coordinates, but no star, no planets, no moons and no asteroid belts.

I don't know about any of you but I find after all the work I and other have put in on the HIP project this just leaves a feeling of a half done job. If no-one else has the desire to do so I may just have to visit all these unfinished systems myself.

Anyway I am now a good way through my current project so if you are still going when I finish I will be available to help finish off, I just needed a break from the HIP stars for a while and this has been quite an enjoyable experience, what with finding Via Gravitatis and all. Well just touching base with you all, have fun.

More than happy to help whittle down the 6000 systems if needed. If you can provide a list of 1000 systems, I'll commence once I've completed slice 17.

Iron Body · Dec 11, 2021

varonica said:
Very nice. Since taking a break from doing the HIP stars I have been visiting as many of the unvisited KOI catalog stars as possible, up in the thousands now. I made a surprising discovery, many of the stars in the KOI catalog were already in EDSM but with bad data. Some system had all the planets and stars recorded correctly, but no first discovery name attached to them. Others had a first visitor name attached but no body information at all, no stars, no planets or moons. So basically a blank entry with just a system name.

This of course set me back quite a bit and I found myself adding a lot of systems that otherwise were already in EDSM simply to correct the bad data. With Orvidius help in pulling a list of systems with no primary stars listed I started redoing areas I had already finished. Altogether the list Orvidius made for me came to over 20 millions systems without a main star listed and also presumably with no data on other bodies in the systems.

I've done a quick check and the number of HIP catalog stars in this list comes to around 6,000, which is rather annoying when looking at all the effort put in to update the EDSM database with the HIP catalog stars.

For instance entering HIP 99447 in EDSM will give us this;

View attachment 280104

The name of the first discoverer Pingouin Masque and the system coordinates, but no star, no planets, no moons and no asteroid belts.

I don't know about any of you but I find after all the work I and other have put in on the HIP project this just leaves a feeling of a half done job. If no-one else has the desire to do so I may just have to visit all these unfinished systems myself.

Anyway I am now a good way through my current project so if you are still going when I finish I will be available to help finish off, I just needed a break from the HIP stars for a while and this has been quite an enjoyable experience, what with finding Via Gravitatis and all. Well just touching base with you all, have fun.

Thanks, nice to hear from you.

This made me wonder what data the Spansh db holds for these stars. I only hold a list of the up-to-date names and coordinates - not the full data - so I just started a full download of the Spansh db. It's around 60GB in size so will take a while.

TBH, I think Jackie Silver was only really interested in the coordinates of the systems, her spreadsheet doesnt have any further details of the systems. Which is a shame if we can't create a fully comprehensive catalogue of them. Rest assured that I personally always scan all the planets, and at least one planet fully mapped and "first footed" now.

If and when we can get all the HIPs onto EDSM, or Spansh, then it will be possible to create a fully populated db.

<edit> The Spansh entry for HIP 99447 is the same as that in EDSM. And there are 22353190 entries with zero bodies. I didn't count the HIP names, because many of them have HD or other designations which means the HIP number doesnt show up in the data.

varonica · Dec 12, 2021

Arnoldo said:
More than happy to help whittle down the 6000 systems if needed. If you can provide a list of 1000 systems, I'll commence once I've completed slice 17.

My list probably need to be updated now since it's a couple of months old, I wil ask Orvidius if he can produce a new list and he can post it a link to it, but can't do it right now, other demands, will sort it later today.

varonica · Dec 12, 2021

Arnoldo said:
More than happy to help whittle down the 6000 systems if needed. If you can provide a list of 1000 systems, I'll commence once I've completed slice 17.

It seems Orvidius has been keeping it up to date, the data file is here;

Elite:Dangerous Astrometrics

edastro.com

Updated weekly, 18m rows, seems we've cut some down since the first one, although I doubt it was me alone, I haven't visited a couple of million systems yet!.

HeIlrider · Dec 12, 2021

18m rows, but
file with "non proc gen names" has "only" 144k rows.
Interesting, how many of this 18m systems without primary star are in both files. So no primary star AND non proc gen name. (or even catalog systems, so something like 20k rows less).

varonica · Dec 13, 2021

HeIlrider said:
18m rows, but
file with "non proc gen names" has "only" 144k rows.
Interesting, how many of this 18m systems without primary star are in both files. So no primary star AND non proc gen name. (or even catalog systems, so something like 20k rows less).

Wouldn't be to hard to do for someone with the necessary skills in scripting, all you are doing is comparing 2 files and deleting data that doesn't appear in both.

Maolagin · Dec 13, 2021

varonica said:
Wouldn't be to hard to do for someone with the necessary skills in scripting, all you are doing is comparing 2 files and deleting data that doesn't appear in both.

By my count, there's currently 12973 system IDs in the catalog systems file that also appear in the missing main stars file. They break down by source catalog as:

Code:

HIP        5855
HD         3183
2MASS       958
NGC         772
KOI         534
TYC         312
HR          219
USNO        183
IHA         156
Kepler       96
GMB          89
BD           72
KAG          36
KIC          32
CD           28
V            28
NOMAD        26
IC           26
DM           25
PSR          17
CPD          17
Melotte      16
YSD          12
BBG          11
CCAC         10
MKS          10
Gliese       10

HeIlrider · Dec 13, 2021

So +/- 10% of systems...
Dear lord...

Animorx · Dec 28, 2021

Since im in the bubble, finishing up the reachable stars in slice 34. Should be done by today and tomorrow.

Iron Body · Dec 28, 2021

Animorx said:
Since im in the bubble, finishing up the reachable stars in slice 34. Should be done by today and tomorrow.

There are still 2800 unexplored HIP stars in the spreadsheet.

If you would like to carry on with another slice, I have updated the unexplored stars speadsheet in a new format..
The spreadsheet is still ordered by slice, but within each slice the stars are ordered so that they can be followed as a route.
The routing algorithm is the "nearest neighbour not already visited", which seems to work reasonably well.

There are some long routes and a few short ones. If would like to follow a route, feel free to choose one, and let me know here.

edit 1: I also updated the new spreadsheet , but haven't done the statistics yet as there were only about 40 new entries (mostly Arnoldo's and mine)
edit 2: Reminder that the X,Y,Z values in the unexplored stars spreadsheet are calculated from the original star catalogue, not actual ED positions, and therefore may not be accurate.