And the paintjobs, and the lighting, and the contrast being completely screwed.
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The lighting (except the shadows bug) and the contrast look fine on my PC.
Laptop with dual gpu, rtx 3050. I figured to reconfigure connection between GPUs, and now it is 60 fps mostly. However, close to flowers it is "red-zone" still.
So what I say, creation of surrounding takes at least 50% of the my GPU as FPS shows. If it would be pre-designed scene it would be 0% additional power used.
Well, that doesn't sound like a very "gaming" laptop, so low framerates are to be expected...
You miss the point. I say GPU is used not only for nice picture but it has other comparable tasks. Which means you cannot expect "modern graphics" because you should divide GPU power by 2.Well, that doesn't sound like a very "gaming" laptop, so low framerates are to be expected...
They dont say it, but it just makes sense that with millions of stations you'd have at least 2 textures for pillars.
I'd also say it'd be a lot of work, except they literally have a system in place to paint many planets once a system is generated, so maybe a bit of copy/paste of the code right? But really, there'd be some work to do it, but I'd say it'd be worth it. Monotony is not the spice of life, variety is!
More is better. It'd be just that much better even if those station interiors had different layouts. Is the business one the one that looks touristy?
I recall when the asteroid ones were announced, they said there were a few of them. I went to them, expecting them to be different. No dice. Literally the same asteroid and port inside it. That could be when my insistence on adding variety started, actually.
They dont need to be smarter than they are now. I know if I step in front of one, they'll stop and be frustrated. Im saying add 7 more paths around the station. I can map those out, if they dont have the time to.
Yeah we only see bits of whats possible, and the bits they show, hint that more is possible.Fleet Carriers, when they first showed them, had those elevator pods able to take you to the front or rear end of the carrier.
Is the shadows bug the same as light bleeding through the walls of buildings? It makes little sense to me why that issue exists, other than they want it to.
I can't answer that specifically, but my experience with shadows includes flickering (which I'm currently not sure if it still happens), and the equally or even more jarring one where a mountain suddenly stops casting a shadow randomly depending on where you're looking, or how your ship's shadow randomly disappears and then gets cast right in front of you, but only at a certain distance, once you are close enough to it. I notice it a lot with my Phantom where its shadow will be fully cast when I'm away from it but once I get back closer to the ship, it will only partially render in and move with me, as if it's tied to the character or something weird/stupid like that.
Fair enough if you think it still looks "fine", especially after several years to get used to it, but Odyssey's lighting and contrast are a downgrade from Horizons. It's why Odyssey looks "darker", some details and parts of the image are just being lost. The actual lighting is broken in many places but most obviously around planets, to borrow some nice pictures from elsewhere:
You say detail lost, I say way more realistic. The left picture is just what you can expect when looking at a dark object with no own light (planet) in front of a fusion furnace (sun). In a realworld eclipse you also can't make out the features of the moon as it sits in front of the sun. The graphics in Odyssey are a realism upgrade in every way. The one big thing still not working is multiple lightsources support.
It requires something to reflect light to the dark side of the object. Such as the Earth for example.
In this case, is there anything reflecting light back at the planet? The ring maybe, but it seems way too thin to reflect that much light back.
No where near half of GPU time is going to spent on anything other than rendering graphics, except during transient loading periods or shader compliation. And quite a few modern games use the GPU for terrain generation or physics.
If your frame rate tanks when looking at biological stuff and doesn't quickly recover, it's because rendering that stuff takes way more effort than it should. Probably a bad shader. Could also be overhead if you're borderline on VRAM. Most RTX 3050s only have 4GiB which is definitely not enough for Odyssey and the 6GiB parts aren't much better.
Which end result is a better image in which scenarios is subjective, and Rainbro's example isn't a good one, but I'm sure Odyssey crushing details that are being rendered, even in situations where auto exposure/eye adaptation shouldn't be an issue. It's not as overt as it used to be though.
That was there even when shadows mostly worked. It's definitely a bug.
The left one you identify as more realistic is from Horizons. The contrast being (effectively) darker is a seperate problem to the lighting being broken and causing stuff like you see in the right.
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YouTube is full of instructional videos on how to build a PC that's capable of running modern games at decent framerates at 1080p for really cheap. You don't necessarily need to spend US$2000 on a rig just to play EDO.I've been complaining my rig can't even play odyssey without hitching.
Windows 10 just told me my rig aint powerful enough to install windows 11 and I need to upgrade my rig. go figure
There is not a camera or other, on earth, that can reproduce an image with the dynamic range of the image on the right, as for the one on the left, the dynamic range is still massive, probably far to much so to be 'realistic'. The human eye can see 16 F stops of dynamic range, the average camera now days can capture 6 at most, though you can make composite images from the raw data, this is essentially the same as multiple expositions, which is what telescopes do, and what photographers used to do, but of course you can not do this with motion film, without shooting with two cameras at once!
There is an engineer in the SOL system, who can overclock your PC, for 10% more elite gaming fun!I've been complaining my rig can't even play odyssey without hitching.
Windows 10 just told me my rig aint powerful enough to install windows 11 and I need to upgrade my rig. go figure
And now for something completely different: Hey fellow Cmdr's! I just made dangerous and got a personal invite from the rather enigmatic Lori Jamerson; I can't wait to have her tinker with my modules!
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Well... that notification is mostoften caused by older PCs not being able to activate TPM 2.0...
Do you have a simple tutorial to get the game running?
I have an M3 Max MBP and would love to see how it fares.
You likely have better ray tracing than me, but similar cpu and gpu core count. My ram memory bandwidth is far better, but likely is unused by this program. The memory bandwidth on this thing is incredible, but none use it
I studied this before adjusting my settings :
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7efYzpquIs
Once you grok what everything does, then you tweak to your own system.
On mac's the thermal throttling makes a massive difference, and this cooling is different for each device range; So you will have to find which is optimal for you.
One of the major factors, and this is covered in the part on AA in the video linked above, is the screen resolution and consequent AA settings.
If you have a high res screen your requirements will be different to mine, though I'm on Mac, I do not have a Mac monitor and my resolution is standard. As such my requirements for AA will be different to those of someone with a high res or ultra res screen.
For the most part, all the settings are maxed out, but a few that don't really do anything other than use resources have been lowered. I'm fairly sure those were explained in the video above.
Give me a shout if they are not, and I'll dig into the settings again to see which ones ive lowered.
addendum: Oh and the amount of ram that you have will be critical, as the GPU and CPU are sharing the resources on these systems.
I studied this before adjusting my settings :
Once you grok what everything does, then you tweak to your own system.
On mac's the thermal throttling makes a massive difference, and this cooling is different for each device range; So you will have to find which is optimal for you.
One of the major factors, and this is covered in the part on AA in the video linked above, is the screen resolution and consequent AA settings.
If you have a high res screen your requirements will be different to mine, though I'm on Mac, I do not have a Mac monitor and my resolution is standard. As such my requirements for AA will be different to those of someone with a high res or ultra res screen.
For the most part, all the settings are maxed out, but a few that don't really do anything other than use resources have been lowered. I'm fairly sure those were explained in the video above.
Give me a shout if they are not, and I'll dig into the settings again to see which ones ive lowered.
addendum: Oh and the amount of ram that you have will be critical, as the GPU and CPU are sharing the resources on these systems.
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Oh, and on a MBP, if you can stick an extra cooling device on it some how, you will likely get some significant performance boost.
I suppose it depends on how you elect to measure, but even a mid-range mirrorless camera these days has around 12 stops of Dynamic Range... (my 'better' camera claims 14 stops)