General Hide 'player' ship on scanner and on the description - additional option

thank you for proving my point - couldn't have done it better myself (y)
Thats going to be similar to:

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Anyway, o7, fly safe, thanx for discussion and sharing your point of view!
 
Thats going to be similar to:

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Anyway, o7, fly safe, thanx for discussion and sharing your point of view!
You posted the wrong GIF... for the point I presume you're trying to make, about 1 min later in that scene when the black knight is on the floor, missing both legs and suggests they "call it a draw" would be more appropriate

However, I expect I'm "wrong" about that as well...

I would say thanks for the discussion, but there really wasn't one in this thread. Lots of points being made, and one person shouting them down.
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Sounds like a lot of people think it's a bad idea, OP. We're all supposed to be Pilot's Federation types so maybe just say we have a magic witchspace transponder to help with escape pod recovery that happens to identify us as CMDRs and call it a night.
 
Never insulted here anyone :) Please do not impose on me a things what not happened.

Yes, there is a difference, and i will stick with 'debunked' - and it does not need to mean a someone need agree with that.
Well debunked means more than disproved it means you have rubbished their argument which can be seen as insulting in its own right.

Adding smileys in the way that you do above looks like you are joking when you say you have never insulted anyone here which reduces the credibility of the statement.
 
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I would like to add the suggestion about the visibility of player ship on the radar, scanner and description

The option to 'mark me as player' should be in the menu as a choice for players to allow them to be recognized as human players or other 'world characters'.
At now the NPCs are filled by colour and players only stroked. In my opinion it should be the matter of choice.

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It would be harder to find a player to gank in world 'full of NPC', without radar recogniction, and better gameplay for other side to hide like the shadow in npc crowd to catch a player.
More players could be able to play 'on the Open' because other will be never sure they are players or NPCs.

Only profits, for all.

As an addition to this option, for example the KWS could be able to detect a ship belong to human or NPC.
And what happens if you're wanted and you turn on reporting a crime against me?

And why does it have to be a separate button? Why can't it be connected to: report a crime against me?
If I turn off the message, my ship becomes a hollow square.
 
Well debunked means more than disproved it means you have rubbished their argument which can be seen as insulting in its own right.

Adding smileys in the way that you do above looks like you are joking when you say you have never insulted anyone here which reduces the credibility of the statement.
If you think i have insulted someone then quote it and report it. If no, then please do not impose me insulting :)

"Debunked" is not an insult. Interesting the any word suggesting someone theory is not correct is an insult :) I cant help then if someone is feeling insulted becase had a poor argument then finally its his argument, and his feeling of insultment. Always can improve it, improve his arguments and will not feel insulted when someone will debunk his argument, disprove it or call it a nonsense:)

And what happens if you're wanted and you turn on reporting a crime against me?

And why does it have to be a separate button? Why can't it be connected to: report a crime against me?
If I turn off the message, my ship becomes a hollow square.

Ship will be marked as wanted as it is now, no change here.

Reporting crimes is something different - it is used to report crimes, but someone may need to have reporting crimes off, but would also like to be hidden. In the opposite, someone may want to be visible, but with turned crimes on, there are four combination here.
 
"Debunked" is not an insult.
It can be seen as such, but anyway...

A significant number of posters in this thread have "debunked" your suggestion. That you choose not to accept that is neither here nor there. It has been categorically argued against, and your refutals have not convinced anyone but yourself. By your terms, it has been "debunked".

Once again, YOU are not the sole arbitor of what it "right" and "wrong", "correct" or "false", "worthy" or "worthless". You appear to be unaware of this, which prevents healthy debate.

No one is expecting YOU to disagree with your own ideas. However, you repeatedly ignore other people's points of view and mock others for holding a different opinion. I, for one, feel that there has been no debate or discussion from YOU in this thread, only out of hand dismissal. YOU may feel different, and that's fine, but as stated, you are NOT the sole arbitor of this, and your assertion as such is essentially moribund now.
 
Ship will be marked as wanted as it is now, no change here.

Reporting crimes is something different - it is used to report crimes, but someone may need to have reporting crimes off, but would also like to be hidden. In the opposite, someone may want to be visible, but with turned crimes on, there are four combination here.
I don't really get it.
I am a criminal, I include - report crimes against me. But if I am a criminal, then if I am attacked, it is no longer a crime.

I.e. automatically it turns out that a person is always visible as a hollow square and will not be able to disguise.
 
I don't really get it.
I am a criminal, I include - report crimes against me. But if I am a criminal, then if I am attacked, it is no longer a crime.

I.e. automatically it turns out that a person is always visible as a hollow square and will not be able to disguise.
I think I get what you mean here - that if a CMDR is wanted, then the option to not display themselves as a hollow square/triangle is removed?

That at least would go some way to alleviating the concerns that most people in this thread have - that this suggestion would be used mainly by "gankers" to launch surprise attacks.
 
I think I get what you mean here - that if a CMDR is wanted, then the option to not display themselves as a hollow square/triangle is removed?

That at least would go some way to alleviating the concerns that most people in this thread have - that this suggestion would be used mainly by "gankers" to launch surprise attacks.

It sounds more like it would be how it is with wanted NPC's, at first you do not know, so you have top target the ship, and this learns the shipname, turn in their direction to be able to scan them, and now you will be able to see the name of the captain and if they are wanted or clean...
 
It can be seen as such, but anyway...

A significant number of posters in this thread have "debunked" your suggestion. That you choose not to accept that is neither here nor there. It has been categorically argued against, and your refutals have not convinced anyone but yourself. By your terms, it has been "debunked".

Once again, YOU are not the sole arbitor of what it "right" and "wrong", "correct" or "false", "worthy" or "worthless". You appear to be unaware of this, which prevents healthy debate.

No one is expecting YOU to disagree with your own ideas. However, you repeatedly ignore other people's points of view and mock others for holding a different opinion. I, for one, feel that there has been no debate or discussion from YOU in this thread, only out of hand dismissal. YOU may feel different, and that's fine, but as stated, you are NOT the sole arbitor of this, and your assertion as such is essentially moribund now.

Not debunked because they got the rensponse proving there is no hole they concerned.
I have responded to almost all (sorry if i missed some) concernes so that is not the ignoring. If i was able to explain that so theres is no reason for admit someone is right in something when its not.
In the reverse - your also not the arbiter - i have answered all your concernes and it is not my case to make you convinced. You may be still not convinced but you received an answers what debunked your alleged holes in my suggestion. And it does not mean you have a right to tell i am wrong :)

I don't really get it.
I am a criminal, I include - report crimes against me. But if I am a criminal, then if I am attacked, it is no longer a crime.

I.e. automatically it turns out that a person is always visible as a hollow square and will not be able to disguise.
As i wrote, my suggestion is not influing the reporting crimes. You may be a criminal with reporting turned on and 'human id' turned off - would personally prefer a possibility of such settings to let the criminals also to turn off their human marker.
But that may be tha matter of the discussion its up how it could be designed.
 
Not debunked because they got the rensponse proving there is no hole they concerned.
The mistake in your assumption here is the use of the word "prove" - you haven't proven anything. You may have answered, but proof is subjective to each party. Therefore, as I and others have stated, your use of the word "debunked" it not warranted here.

In the reverse - your almost not the arbiter
I never claimed to be such, nor have my responses implied this
 
The mistake in your assumption here is the use of the word "prove" - you haven't proven anything. You may have answered, but proof is subjective to each party. Therefore, as I and others have stated, your use of the word "debunked" it not warranted here.
Yes i did :) Explained every concerns how in each situation may happen and why. You may dislike the consequence but still you got an answer proving the point. And using a 'debunk' term is valid for it.
Its common a someone who'se theory was debunked disagree with that, do not worry.
 
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