General / Off-Topic How many ppl have already dumped windows 10 from their computer

Captain Willard

Captain Willard
My biggest gripe isn't about the privacy, "I never put any information on my main drive, passwords, CC numbers and you can dispel me ever using a cloud storage. Any info that's important goes on a 2nd or 3rd drive that is hidden and encrypted. I installed win 10, put a few programs on, got the drivers I needed then went back to Win 7.
Load Win 10 up a few months later. OH MY, Win 10 no longer supports these programs and my drivers are out of date. Just what I need is my computer to be a beta platform for MS.
Another big LMAO is MS upgrading security for Win XP for the US navy for a hefty profit. Why doesn't the US public get them, when our taxes paid for the navy upgrades? GREED
Besides who care about the security issue. Hackers are gonna go after the new OP systems, not after the old ones.
 
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Surfinjo

Surfinjo
Patrick_68000 said:
We must boycott ! All on Linux !

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A rather bigger rip off than Windows.

There is a huge market out there for someone who can make a stable OS that surfs the web, emulates Skype and plays music.

The problem, as shown by Linux, is that anyone with the resources to right the code lacks the integrity to make it secure.
 

xondk

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Garix said:
I'll grant you that anyone using Siri (or the like), facebook twitter et al. shouldn't really be complaining about privacy. Those of us who don't however, feel we have every right to be concerned about the amount of data being collected by firms who have a poor record of security in the first place.

Simple rule of thumb: If a service is being given away for free, there's a good chance it's YOU (well your details anyway) that's being sold.
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Well, yes, but windows 10 isn't free, and last I checked windows 7 -> win 10 upgraded version is the same as windows 10 purchased.

That said my point was more that what windows actually collects isn't really as intrusive as all people make it to be, many of the things 'shared' are things used to create the experience of that app or what you are using and windows isn't going to be able to look at your say, chrome browsing history and see what you are doing, nor is it going to track everything you do in a game, or such, because that would made invading said programs and games, which would basically be illegal to modify another developers software like that, so yeah it is mostly related to microsoft's own products, which you can chose not to use, I mean who uses windows mail? edge?. Is the amount of data it gathers by default concerning? a bit yes, I would say, but it isn't any different then the data that is gathered everywhere else, is in fact less so, and you can disable it.

Dweezil_Moon said:
Honestly, injecting an unblockable nag-popup reminiscent of malware into the userexperience of Windows7 to push people to become beta testers doesn't really sound like they listen to complaints nor that they actually care about their users.
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Personally I've upgraded, and I know people with win 7 that have not, they've never been nagged by a popup, it just sits in the notification area, and that's it.

But yes, definitely annoying if it does that on other computers and definitely is not a behaviour that should be done, personally though I wonder if it is a region thing? since I know some places such things would definitely be illegal to do to people's legit purchased product.
 
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xondk

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Robert Maynard said:
All of my upgrades from Windows 7 to Windows 10 have been free - downloaded directly from Microsoft.
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Well, yes, the upgrade is free, but once that offer expires it won't be, and then it will cost money as it does now if you purchase it directly, so it isn't really a 'free' product.
 

Robert Maynard

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Robert Maynard
xondk said:
Well, yes, the upgrade is free, but once that offer expires it won't be, and then it will cost money as it does now if you purchase it directly, so it isn't really a 'free' product.
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If owners of Windows 7,8,8.1 choose to ignore the free upgrade notifications on their PCs then that is, of course, their choice.

It is not unreasonable to expect that Microsoft will charge for new copies of the O/S right now or upgrades after the well notified free upgrade period has expired.
 

xondk

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Robert Maynard said:
If owners of Windows 7,8,8.1 choose to ignore the free upgrade notifications on their PCs then that is, of course, their choice.

It is not unreasonable to expect that Microsoft will charge for new copies of the O/S right now or upgrades after the well notified free upgrade period has expired.
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yes? which is my point previously it isn't a free product, and as such, people even those that have upgraded for free, can use it as any other product of theirs that they own, meaning they can also fully expect microsoft not to compromise their product.
And at least in Europe, ToS or Eula's cannot legally make a person write off, such a privacy and personal ownership.

So yeah, companies can write whatever they want in tos / eula's, enforcing it is another matter, if you sell a product in a country, you are subject to the laws of said company, and they can't just say those laws don't count any more because users 'signed' their rights away, especially with the state of eula's and tos' of late. What the company CAN do however is deny you access to their services, however they can't take something away from you that you have legally bought. They could however disallow you from updates or such if you did something that violated their terms.
 

Dweezil_Moon

Dweezil_Moon
xondk said:
Personally I've upgraded, and I know people with win 7 that have not, they've never been nagged by a popup, it just sits in the notification area, and that's it.

But yes, definitely annoying if it does that on other computers and definitely is not a behaviour that should be done, personally though I wonder if it is a region thing? since I know some places such things would definitely be illegal to do to people's legit purchased product.
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You can block certain update packages and modify your registry to stop the popup from appearing, but at least in Germany, the popup appears randomly if you use your computer normally and shut it down between uses, and, at least in my case, automatically if I just wake the computer up. It's incredibly annoying and stupid, and as I said: it is exactly what some malware does.
 

Shinra

Shinra
I won't upgrade until any and all support for Win7 ends. I've worked around 7 for years and have come to know it like the back of my hand. There's no need for me to upgrade as all my software runs perfectly on 7.

For those who did upgrade, how are you finding it?
 

vernonator

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Why? Its as stable (if not more) than Win 7 - have 5 machines 1 desktop, 1 surface, 1 laptop and 2 Tablets all on Win 10. The ONLY thing that has issues is my desktop when playing ED....yup buggier than HE...well you know. Its the only game/app that I have that will lock the whole machine. Now in a modern Windows machine (7,8,10) THAT takes some doing...so the FDev's are getting SOMETHING right.
 

Greyhawk

Greyhawk
I'm on 10. Only have one issue and thats randomly dropping internet connection - I think due to lack of drivers maybe.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
FREE Windows 10 upgrade...With a new commercial setup where one will pay for the additions they want ending up with a Microsoft yearly "cloud" subscription. No thanks for now. Maybe no other choice in the future.
 

Surfinjo

Surfinjo
One of the more alarming developments with Apple is that it is turning off phones whose owners have dared to have unauthorised repairs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35502030

http://www.theguardian.com/money/20...e-update-handset-worthless-third-party-repair

This is a lot more serious than it may first appear. It means that manufacturers can hold users to ransom, forcing them to do almost anything.

I honestly don't understand the reluctance of software developers, game software in particular, adopting Linux. I did briefly look at SteamOS and it was essentially advertising, demanding money and so on.

But the fact that the major software companies have shunned Linux does suggest somehting more.

Apple and M$ have sewn up the world between them and we seem to be screwed. Unless the US takes some action as it did with Standard Oil 100 years ago, I can't really see any way out.
 
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