And also completely irrelevant, as even a high sec system wouldn't prevent ganks. Bless FD for the complete uselessness of security ratings.
I hope DW2 gets ganked all the way to Beagle Point.
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And also completely irrelevant, as even a high sec system wouldn't prevent ganks. Bless FD for the complete uselessness of security ratings.
It's a unneeded 'own goal' making the murder-hobo's jobs easier; history could of taken one on the chin for common sense here.
Agreed 300%
Everyone is empowered to request a restore.
https://support.frontier.co.uk/kb/
Nobody is entitled to receive a restore - not in open, not in solo, not in Mobius and not in Fleetcomm. Rule violations in a PG will be judged and decided on a case by case basis. But you all know FD support. they're great.
If this ganking is 'expected' in Open then surely you just need to up the crime and punishment.
I mean yes it is one thing attacking/pirating ships going to CG's etc. part of the game/part of the universe.
But this is more akin to someone turning up at the start of the Tour de france with an AK and just opening up - that should be met with deadly force by all of the ED security services for a good few months for any identified commanders
Probably not going to happen though.
I mean yes it is one thing attacking/pirating ships going to CG's etc. part of the game/part of the universe.
But this is more akin to someone turning up at the start of the Tour de france with an AK and just opening up - that should be met with deadly force by all of the ED security services for a good few months for any identified commanders
Probably not going to happen though.
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Except they decided to hold it in a low security system, like the tour setting of from Somalia.
I always thought it would be interesting if notoriety acquired from PvP interactions was permanent, even after ship destruction. They should try that in the next beta. Surely that would up that challenge factor that PvPers are always talking about, right?
You are confusing kicking with restoring ships.
The problem with that is the ramming "exploit". I guess a lot of CMDRs would come in whining here why their notoriety would be permanent if they speed in a NFZ and ram a poor eagle to death. But we digress.
To me it looks like they cheated* their way into the PG.
*cheating as in lying in your résumé.
If they can’t read the radar well enough to see it coming, then I’d argue that they deserve it. It’s not rocket science (well, I mean technically it sort of is, but not the complicated kind of rocket science).
Then if they wouldn't change venue they could at least of done some 'prep' work and played the BGS to change the security/ownership of said system.
The difference in security and ATR response times in a low sec system is significant and only made the gankers jobs easier. Or feed them kills, whatever you prefer.
Most of the explorer builds ganked in open yesterday wouldn't survive the 10 seconds it takes an ATR to arrive in high sec. So that's useless.
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If the servers had been working properly, we had a few guys who wanted to come for some griefer griefing, but I'm done banging my head against this net code, I played some pro evo soccer instead.
Back to wondering why 15 people doing inf missions isn't making any difference to the factions influence.
Back to wondering why 15 people doing inf missions isn't making any difference to the factions influence.
It's doable in specific circumstances, but usefully protecting an entire 11,000-pilot expedition is indeed impossible [1].
To even have an escort ship in the "right" instance you'd need probably about a quarter of the expedition to be escorts. Good luck vetting 2,500 combat pilots in a hurry...
It doesn't mean they didn't succeed, either - sneaking explorers in safely isn't glamorous work and if done well no-one much knows it happened, but it's quite a bit more effective than the fantasies people have about rescuing people from an actual fight.
[1] Equally, the chances of any individual explorer getting attacked are also pretty low. But "10,000 explorers not blown up by hostiles" won't be the headline if that happens.
That's exactly my point, players wouldn't necessarily receive a restore, but currently they aren't really flocking to support whenever a ship is lost due to another player, are they? They just contact Mobius, provide whatever evidence they have to get that player removed, and that is the end of the story. Because this procedure has been set up with the firm belief that FDEV will never, under any circumstances, restore player assets lost to another player.
What would happen if Mobius players were actively encouraged to contact support for any ship loss caused by another player? With this new episode in the Elite Saga serving as precedent?
Even if the chance of getting a restore would be practically null, I know I still would ask for one, given the precedent. How hard is it to write an e-mail after all?
Would the number of e-mails make any impact with the support team? Would it shake things up, maybe shake up some exec chair high in FDEV? Would they need to hire one guy in support to handle the workload, guy which could have been doing the kind of work Mobius has been doing for years for free, and which FDEV have been reaping the fruits of?
The ability of BGS work to change security levels is pretty minimal, once the system isn't under Anarchy control. Some 'Low' security can be increased to 'Medium' in theory, but only by putting them into Lockdown which has its own downsides.
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Open PVE is basically what powerplay is though strung across all modes.
Its why Braben said it would never work when asked in the past. Because people are eventually supposed to be losing things.
Its cool these are organized in PG's and Kudos to the crazy dudes with those paper long range ships in open.