I wanna ask a huge favor of the game devs for the nonbinary community

[Sasha Terra]

I do have a real concern about this. The lobby which demands tolerance so often turns out to be intolerant itself. With present trends I'm actually slightly worried that slipping up over a pronoun will eventually become a criminal offence, and I'll do it and be hauled into court.

Nonsense. We all make mistakes about this stuff. I'm NB, and I do it. The important thing is to fix it without fuss when you can, and move on.

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

Gender probably comes up far more than we traditional binary types think it does, we're just unaware of it because traditional society caters to us. When the world doesn't cater to you, you're probably far more aware of it.

It's like, I'm left-handed, the inconveniences I've faced over my life and in my job (like counting cheques or money) sticks in my mind wouldn't even register with a right-handed person (for whom the world is built).

If non-binary people tell me there's an inconvenience and there are issues, I'm inclined to believe them, just because my experience doesn't render me personally aware of a situation doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I'm right handed, so I obviously don't understand. Please explain to me how being left handed affects your ability to count money. I would love to know

 

[uberx24]

Nonsense. We all make mistakes about this stuff. I'm NB, and I do it. The important thing is to fix it without fuss when you can, and move on.

At this point people want to muddy the topic rather than relevantly address it.

 

[avow555]

Is there any way we can display our pronouns, and if so can we have that option eventually implemented? I feel bad sometimes saying in chat that I don't identify as a girl/guy and inform people that I use they/them as I worry people will see me as being too aggressive about my identity or something (I try to be polite about it).

Call yourself Commander Nonbinary in the game, enjoy...

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

Right. Thought crimes are just fine. Great stuff buddy....

At least once in this thread, in a response aimed directly at you, I stated, think what you like but being outwardly polite costs you nothing.

Your continued refusal to answer the ugly question is noted and speaks volumes.

 

[uberx24]

Call yourself Commander Nonbinary in the game, enjoy...

I put in a request to have "they/them" added to the end of my user

 

[Starshot_Jigawatts]

Some people want us to know how very much they care about not caring.

Or maybe video games are escapism and we would like it to be a bit divorced from the current social narrative happening in real life?

 

[theBreadSultan]

This also isnt a political issue either. Just asking for pronouns.

It is almost entirely political.
If your deep into this stuff and have yet to grasp that then perhaps do a little more reading.

At its very core is a dichotomy of political idea: should society adapt to the individual or the individual adapt to society?

Where that line should be drawn is something that is not agreed upon.

 

[uberx24]

Or maybe video games are escapism and we would like it to be a bit divorced from the current social narrative happening in real life?

By enjoying a game with an unstable political landscape that mirror's real life's and Galnet.

 

[Sasha Terra]

Or maybe video games are escapism and we would like it to be a bit divorced from the current social narrative happening in real life?

And maybe some of us like our escapism to involve being able to be our true selves rather than performing for the benefit of our employers, etc.

If you want a safe space without us, make it yourself instead of demanding it from others.

 

[uberx24]

It is almost entirely political.
If your deep into this stuff and have yet to grasp that then perhaps do a little more reading.

At its very core is a dichotomy of political idea: should society adapt to the individual or the individual adapt to society?

Where that line should be drawn is something that is not agreed upon.

You're already enjoying that line. Theres just social consequences for being rude.

 

[Vetinari]

(and yes, gender games is a political affiliation).

What are gender games? How are they politically affiliated?

And also, I'd like a decal detailing exactly how many women I've slept with... Because you know, where I put my junk is really relevant to a space game.

I think you are getting really confused and worked up by something that has no relevance or connection.

And for me personally, even though I have blue eyes, I identify as someone who has brown eyes, I want that to be known by everyone who targets my ship.

Why would having one set of physical features be a problem to identifying as not ruled by those physical features?

 

[Starshot_Jigawatts]

And maybe some of us like our escapism to involve being able to be our true selves rather than performing for the benefit of our employers, etc.

If you want a safe space without us, make it yourself instead of demanding it from others.

Literally have no clue what you just said. None.

The game doesn't allow me to be my "true self" either. If that makes you feel better about all this.

 

[theBreadSultan]

I put in a request to have "they/them" added to the end of my user

And just to confirm, you would of course then be OK with people being able to put "attack helicopter" as a tag?

And seeing this on ships that attack you will make the game more welcoming yes?

 

[Sasha Terra]

And just to confirm, you would of course then be OK with people being able to put "attack helicopter" as a tag?

And seeing this on ships that attack you will make the game more welcoming yes?

Attack helicopter? How novel! Did you come up with that yourself?

Like I said earlier: get some new material.

 

[uberx24]

And just to confirm, you would of course then be OK with people being able to put "attack helicopter" as a tag?

And seeing this on ships that attack you will make the game more welcoming yes?

I mean, they can do if they wanna. They probably already do. Nothing changes. The only thing they lose is their ability to keep me quiet and oppressed about my identity

 

[Rat Catcher]

Theres just social consequences for being rude.

It depends on status and location, if one was one of the 'untouchable' caste in India it would matter not in the least if another was impolite, served a hefty beating, or otherwise inconvenienced the 'untouchable' as it really doesn't matter...

Or is the reference only pointed toward your own society? There are no 'universal' rights to anything in the global 'society' - if you wish to continue being entirely political in your discussion perhaps some consideration to be entirely 'inclusive' of the multitude of social frameworks that exist in humankind may be a positive step.

 

[theBreadSultan]

What are gender games? How are they politically affiliated?

I think you are getting really confused and worked up by something that has no relevance or connection.

Why would having one set of physical features be a problem to identifying as not ruled by those physical features?

Attack helicopter? How novel! Did you come up with that yourself?

Like I said earlier: get some new material.

No, but if your going to put something in the game, then do the people who disagree not also get to put things in the game?

Or is it only those that you agree with?

My argument is that 2021 political subject matter should not be in the game.

Ask only of the rights that you would be happy for those who are directly opposed to you, to also have

 

[Vetinari]

At its very core is a dichotomy of political idea: should society adapt to the individual or the individual adapt to society?

Are you seriously pretending this is a question, which is better, conformity or individualism when you just said?

Or are you perhaps of the opinion that we only allow the political expression of those with whom you agree with...

What's the word for that again?

Oh yea, fascism

 

[theBreadSultan]

I mean, they can do if they wanna. They probably already do. Nothing changes. The only thing they lose is their ability to keep me quiet and oppressed about my identity

You are not oppressed... I guarantee it