Like the campaigners against getting a proper camera system it does make me laugh sometimes to think back to those who moaned about changes which didnt hurt the game at all and only added a much needed feature.. As for in system micro jumps , i could get onboard with the suggestion of it takes a space in modules and only jumps between stars not other bodies.
In system jumps.
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Like the campaigners against getting a proper camera system it does make me laugh sometimes to think back to those who moaned about changes which didnt hurt the game at all and only added a much needed feature.. As for in system micro jumps , i could get onboard with the suggestion of it takes a space in modules and only jumps between stars not other bodies.
With the way you play the game I think is more apt. Or if you don't play the game and just look at a blank screen then I guess it will be tedious.
Sounds rubbish. Just like multi-crew telepresence.
I am assuming you would have to target the micro jump, spool up the micro jump drive. Fly through some sort of tunnel effect, then drop out in front of the sun and target where you want to go.
That is going to take several minutes assuming you already know the micro jump points.
You could make the micro jump points spawn each time in different places, interesting possibility for a useful uss and provide a mechanic in SC to locate them.
I hear the comment about mission rewards, but I would argue currently they don't scale well at all. Last night I had 75k for 20 minutes in sc for 400k ls, or 30k for a few hundred light seconds. I wouldn't object if they scaled to the time commitment properly. Maybe my answer is to go to a bigger ship and have more cargo space and more mission choices.
That is going to take several minutes assuming you already know the micro jump points.
You could make the micro jump points spawn each time in different places, interesting possibility for a useful uss and provide a mechanic in SC to locate them.
I hear the comment about mission rewards, but I would argue currently they don't scale well at all. Last night I had 75k for 20 minutes in sc for 400k ls, or 30k for a few hundred light seconds. I wouldn't object if they scaled to the time commitment properly. Maybe my answer is to go to a bigger ship and have more cargo space and more mission choices.
Oh ok. Just an idea.
No worries. There are some very good ideas in this thread to speed up SC speeds, but micro jumps just doesn't do it for me. Each to their own though.
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What wanted criminal would want a sightseeing tour from a station that is notorious for scanning incoming and outgoing ships? Oh that's right, most of them it seems. Inconsistently applying IRL reasoning to this game fails before it gets off the ground.
Just because there are some bizarre inconsistancies in the game doesn't make it right to include more.
Since there are bizarre inconsistencies yet life goes on, it 's illogical to assume another one would ruin the immersion. Why would a faction pay more to deliver goods to a station 100K Ls away than one 20 LY away? It's all about gameplay and how much grind is required to get there. You could fill this forum with inconsistencies from the game such as repeat payouts for repeat scans of the same system, forever, or for wanted status for murder for killing a clean ship but not for destroying an occupied escape pod.
I personally like it just fine how it is, if FD would stop removing enjoyable things that take me forever to find. It's like they are painting us into a very specific gameplay style corner by removing alternatives that we thought we had when we started playing.
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Oh geez, and the chaff and shield cell banks make the combat grind even worse. I think they should add a module that allows my gimballed weapons to ignore chaff, and break any regenerating shield. It would give me a choice of taking up a module slot, or doing combat the old school way.
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What gets me players already have choices for long distance system travel but they keep ignoring them. That for mission or exploration.
Missions if you use galaxy map and find the station is too far from the main star. Don't accept the mission. Stick with the mission that has station closer to the main star. Your problem is solved.
If a system too big and take too long to explore. Jump to a new system. Your problem is solved.
People you don't have to fly 10 15 Minutes and whine about it. We have choices now. We have 400 Billion systems. Some systems are huge some are small. If you don't like the wait you can jump to another system that can be smaller.
Missions if you use galaxy map and find the station is too far from the main star. Don't accept the mission. Stick with the mission that has station closer to the main star. Your problem is solved.
If a system too big and take too long to explore. Jump to a new system. Your problem is solved.
People you don't have to fly 10 15 Minutes and whine about it. We have choices now. We have 400 Billion systems. Some systems are huge some are small. If you don't like the wait you can jump to another system that can be smaller.
Love the idea of an extra module. This is how I'd want it to be done.
You see, this comparison doesn't work. You may find combat boring, but unless you're AFK turret farming (which is an engineers balance problem, not a design possible), combat requires constant input from the player. You are continuously engaged- tracking were the target is, and rotating to face them.
The long supercruise trips, you're literally doing nothing. You can turn off your monitor and leave your computer if you wanted to. Even if you find combat boring, it's at least a game. Doing literally nothing while your ship flies in a straight line is not; that's a loading screen, or a screen saver at best.
The more inconsistent the lore becomes the worse the game is. A bit like a story driven game with a rubbish story. No matter how good the mechanics are, if there is no good story/lore to tie them together the worse it is.
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No, the comparison works perfectly well, thanks.
If I'm playing chess with someone, 'doing nothing' whilst waiting for them to make a move, I'm still playing chess.
If I'm playing Monopoly, 'doing nothing' whilst waiting for 5 other people to make their moves, I'm still playing monopoly.
In both cases, I can walk away from the game if I wanted to, watch Netflix, make a cup of tea, but whilst I'm doing any, all or none of those things, I'm still playing a game.
Enticing people to engage in long, tedious activities with good rewards is bad game design. All that does is bait players into doing stuff they don't enjoy. This is supposed to be a game, not a boring job with a fair wage.
Instead of varying pay based on how much supercruise AFK-friendly tedium the player will have to endure, why not indeed vary the reward based on the risk of the mission? Better differentiate NPC threat across different security and system states, etc. Focus on making the game fun, instead of tricking players into doing stuff they don't enjoy... While they're presumably playing a game to have fun.
Oh dear.
Except those pauses are generally short, and can easily be filled with plotting your next move, and gathering information via watching the other player(s). It's not the same at all. Now if after each player's turn a box was placed over the board and nobody could see or touch it for ten minutes or so, then maybe there'd be some similarity.