Is Chapter 4 "make it or break it" for you?

I will not say that chapter 4 will be the make or break patch for me. I think it is only natural for people to stop playing a game after a certain while. To give a personal example: We were 10 people who all were playing ED on a semi regular basis and we all bought the Horizons DLC hooked on the idea of landing on planets and (later) playing together. Cut to now and I am the only one of the ten people that still has the game installed and I don't even play that often anymore. It was a mix of the time investment required to play and the fact that some of the systems introduced in Horizons were either unfun or just not working properly.

At the end of the day, if the game isn't fun, in the moment, then holding out for the next update hoping that it suddenly becomes interesting and fun is an exercise in futility, it's natural for games to simply lose the attention of whoever is playing and then move on to play something else and if, somewhere down the line, an update is released that sounds interesting they'll come back, only for the cycle to continue. It's an issue that all games, no matter what they are face.

ED is fun and magical for the first 1-300 hours, depending on preference. Then you start to see the seams and depending on how much you like the systems that are there you will play until you just stop and move on. I don't think that making some "minor" additions to mining and exploration is going to make people return or keep people engaged for long, though I hope that I am wrong. I do think that Squadrons and fleet carriers have the potential to keep people engaged much more since it is the social aspect that make a lot of people continue to play a game, well after running out of things to do. One can argue, however, that those features along with most of what Beyond has given us so far are features that should have been implemented much much earlier.
 
No, I think we're getting to the stage where delivery rather than hype is what will retain/gain customers.

Frankly I do not think.

A few announcements of beautiful graphics, a beautiful trailer, some planets with atmosphere, a little flora and fauna and Frontier gets 1 million of new players.

:)
 
Prominent interest in the game will only continue while it is in expansion. It is the expansion which is driving continuing fascination with the game, rather than the gameplay itself - always something new to anticipate.

And this principle of anticipation for the expansion is also applied to the game itself since 34 years.

Hope to discover something new in the game, ensures infinite looping repetition.

:D
 
Free stuff ?.....GGRRR.

Don't know about you but I paid for my horizons expansion.

You know, that same stuff they've spent the last year overhauling
That chapter that was supposed to be a year long?

How about the Thargoids? Do we need to wait two years for that to be added onto? WAIT. GOT IT. Reskinning and renaming ships to shoot. Perfect.

I have zero problem spending money on this game provided they bring good content forth. But the rose colored sun glasses are long gone.
 
How about the Thargoids? Do we need to wait two years for that to be added onto? WAIT. GOT IT. Reskinning and renaming ships to shoot. Perfect.

I have zero problem spending money on this game provided they bring good content forth. But the rose colored sun glasses are long gone.

I think you will find your and other people evaluation what 'good content' means highly subjective. Claiming Thargoids are just reskin is going against reality. You might *feel* that way, but that doesn't mean it's true.
 
How about the Thargoids? Do we need to wait two years for that to be added onto? WAIT. GOT IT. Reskinning and renaming ships to shoot. Perfect.

The Thargoids are the first significant upgrade brought to the PVE combat content. Granted, Sarah Jane's minions got a major boost once, but these changes did not stick so yeah : the Ts are by far the hardest opponents in Elite.

Pretending the Thargoids are a mere re-skin is utter nonsense TBH. And I'm trying to put it mildly here.
 
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Hell, I'd even buy the DLC *despite* my LEP ! :D

Second account and all that ...

Not sure I will for me 2nd account. Definitely NOT until it's fully done and dusted and I test it first on my main LEP account.

What they lost me with was 2.4 personally. They spun all that "greatest enemy in the history of video games" and "nightmares of the past returned" hype, which I fell for (yeah, my fault, I know - but at the time I was a white knight who had firm faith in Frontier). What I got was miles far from what I expected based on the hype (yeah, my fault, I know - but at the time etc.).

Now I just wait and see what happens with no expectation whatsoever. They can show however many screenshots they want. I will not fall for it until it's in the game and I actually play it.

As a LEP holder it won't be literal "make or break", but it will be "make or quit the game until I think it's worth coming back into, which may as well be never if they keep doing to Elite what they did with Thargoids" kind of a deal.

I spent about 900 GBP in their store, from skins to mugs etc. - because I wanted to support the game and the studio. But I honestly I can't remember when was the last time I purchased something. And I don't intend to spend any more money until I am convinced Elite and Frontier are worth my hard earned money again.
 
The Thargoids are the first significant upgrade brought to the PVE combat content. Granted, Sarah Jane's minions got a major boost once, but these changes did not stick so yeah : the Ts are by far the hardest opponents in Elite.

Pretending the Thargoids are a mere re-skin is utter nonsense TBH. And I'm trying to put it mildly here.

I was refering to the Thargoid variants and guardian grind wall.

The goids were an interesting addition but little has changed with them in what is it... A year now?
 
Frankly I do not think.

A few announcements of beautiful graphics, a beautiful trailer, some planets with atmosphere, a little flora and fauna and Frontier gets 1 million of new players.

:)


No, delivery of beautiful graphics, a beautiful trailer, some planets with atmosphere, a little flora and fauna and Frontier gets 1 million of new players :)
 
I was refering to the Thargoid variants and guardian grind wall.

Fair enough, I apologize : you're right, since they appeared, the variants did not bring much to the gameplay.
I'll see your frustration and raise you my non-combat Thargoids content : I'm still waiting for it ... And *NO* FD, slicing the aliens up with a laser scalpel doesn't count as 'non combat' !
 
They really should get a move on and hurry up with popping the bubble. Players need to be afraid to go out at night.

What about cats and dogs? They seem to be unfazed by bugs.

I was refering to the Thargoid variants and guardian grind wall.

The goids were an interesting addition but little has changed with them in what is it... A year now?

Very interesting expectations there. What should have changed? I find their variety quite interesting and I have heard stories about interesting combinations.

I am more inclined to agree that combat is only 'tool' you can use on them. But then again....those are bugs.
 
If I'm playing the game now, I'll probably continue playing it unless it gets appreciably worse.

While I certainly hope to see the game improve with each patch/update, I'm not holding out for anything. If I didn't enjoy it as it was, I'd stop.
 
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