Thanks, I've never heard that clip before, I was thinking of one of their streams. Still I note that he qualifies his statement with "not at the moment"..
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This is what I was talking about. That video was from the Kickstarter, and when it appears, it rarely includes the necessary context:
I mean, you're not wrong here. The "silent majority" in any game doesn't always see things the way that the vocal component does, and on top of that, the vocal component can be quite easily swayed if their favorite content creator is pushing a certain angle. So, point well taken. It's a lesson I should have learned a long time ago; that appearances can be deceiving when it comes to what is actually in high demand.
Darkfyre99 has even convinced me to give Odyssey another try once all of my ship engineering is done, so maybe this old dog can learn some new tricks.
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But I still want to make a cup of coffee in my Krait and stare out the window at distant stars while I sip it.
Nothing wrong with wishing for something. Just don't confuse or even equate what you wish for with what "the majority" wants (the proverbial you, not you personally). It is always a good thing to remember that we all live in some echo chamber of some form.
As for trying Odyssey: It is more fun than you might think. Up until update 14 I did not do any Odyssey content beyond now and then going to the concourse to see if there is something to buy or scanning a few bios when out exploring. After U14 Odyssey was finally playable for me in VR (the part where you approach Odyssey settlements in your ship has been a vomit fest for me up until this point), so I gave it a try. Made a wishlist what weapon and suit modifications I wanted to try, went to a random system and started taking on foot missions. Boy, was it fun.
Just don't expect the mother of all FPS shooters. Yes, it is first person, and yes, you shoot, but it is not an FPS. But it is fun.
As for trying Odyssey: It is more fun than you might think. Up until update 14 I did not do any Odyssey content beyond now and then going to the concourse to see if there is something to buy or scanning a few bios when out exploring. After U14 Odyssey was finally playable for me in VR (the part where you approach Odyssey settlements in your ship has been a vomit fest for me up until this point), so I gave it a try. Made a wishlist what weapon and suit modifications I wanted to try, went to a random system and started taking on foot missions. Boy, was it fun.
Just don't expect the mother of all FPS shooters. Yes, it is first person, and yes, you shoot, but it is not an FPS. But it is fun.
Yup, and that "moment" was almost two years ago. So who knows what the current status is. The point is, we have no clue, because Frontier won't talk to us.
So like the other comment it should be interpreted in the context of ship interiors in Odyssey, not a catagorical no we'll never do ship interiors in ED.
That won't be acceptable, too little drama in it.
If it's drama you crave, I'd be more than happy to start a new thread titled either "Returning Player: Are CQC and Powerplay good now?" or "Is Engineering Still A Soulless Grind?".
Could make for an interesting weekend.
Well, that would get 3 well known forumites into full throttle...
The drama over ship interiors has been going for years, mostly fuelled by an 11 year old video of aspirations...
Sound altogehter reasonable, all things considered!
Bad answer for you: both were promised on kickstarter.
But it's clear that the spaghetti code will not allow such development.
The fact that every time they add a thing they broke one or more let me guess that source code is a mess.
Netherless interiors and earth world were promised during kick starter so no delivering now means they have loudly lied.
I don't care. First of all, that was waaaaay before my time. Second, and more important: I bought the game based on what was written on the box I bought it in (metaphorially). I did not buy a list of promises written in fairy dust on elephant butt leather. I don't care how many times the kickstarter videos get pulled up, it is nothing more than a vision and a bucketload full of promises. One could choose to invest in these promises, or not. I would never do that. But if you did, that does not mean you have a claim on everything promised in a kickstarter vision video.
Classic case of buyer beware.
- I got exactly what I was expecting when I bought EDH.
- If you want to buy into kickstarters feel free. You know the risks.
I got even more - 3.3 dropped around 17 months later and I got a lot more playable game for free!
What has the pledge level got to do with what I was saying and what I directly linked to in the video?
DBOBE clearly and definitively said that ships in the game were designed from the get-go to be able to have in-ship activities (and also that each had the facility for damage model - like the Anaconda) - at some point down the line.
Perhaps I misunderstood your interjection?
That's the way I always understood it. I also think it might have actually been that way in the beginning, but then the idea was canned with the introduction of SRVs. I've been told that some ships like the Adder had different designs before the SRV, designs that seemed ship-interior friendly, but then Frontier decided that every ship down to the tiny Sidewinder had to have an SRV, implying that ship interiors were sacrificed (or at least put on the back back back burner) for Horizons content.
Promised? You know anybody can visit the Kickstarter website and view the original statements right? Are you familiar with what a Kickstarter is? Do you understand how it works? I suspect not.
Elite Dangerous Kickstarter Statement of Risk
Perhaps.
Or perhaps I misunderstood, and interpreted the posting of that video as yet another “They promised! And they lied! Frontier are lying liars and they promised!” posting, which typically ignores the Kickstarter and the very clear messaging that this is what they would like to do if the game is successful enough to warrant the development of future paid expansions.
I do agree that DBOBE did say that the game ED was designed with future paid expansions in mind, and that one of those planned paid expansions was included, among other things, ship interiors. Given what Frontier has produced to date, I have every reason to believe that this remains the case. Unfortunately, Odyssey still requires a lot of work done on it before they can move on to the next paid expansion, with the caveat that Frontier sees enough potential profit to be made in doing so. Whether that paid expansion has ship interiors is anybody guess. It would, along with expanded station interiors, be a natural addition to the foundation laid by Odyssey. But then aga8n, Frontier surprised me with Odyssey to begin with, even if it was obvious in h8ndsight.
The final statement on that should have been in 72 point, bold, and bright red...
Most would still not notice, or remember it, I guess...
That second sentence was downright clairvoyant.
I get the feeling that originally the ships has provision for interiors, however this was ditched when they rushed it out - look at the weird scale of the steps on the big imperial ship.
At this point I think it's fair to assume that everything David said has either been delivered or disregarded.