Just when you thought grinding couldn't get any lower...

Well, it might come as a pretty big surprise to someone like you that while you were away, seemingly for years, engineers got a tad changed... [smile] The new "respect-your-time" engineering process is so much less of a grind too that even the old Quent grind pales in comparison. [haha] Which is probably why the apologist has no idea what g5 mods even do...
You're crying over 25 Modular terminals? Really? Just camp a big station and relog / stack missions if you're in such a hurry to unlock everything RIGHT NAU!12!3312.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
LOL I'd love see you own a high intensity conflict zone with your Viper

I've been in a CZ for so long that my MC's ran out and I almost fell asleep from boredom so yes, I've been in those it's the way I make most of my money in fact. One time I got so bored that I zoned out and then my cockpit got cracked - omg some excitment!

But then I just left and SC'd back to the station with plenty of time left before instantly repairing and going back out there but this time, fighting for the other side!

I don't know how you struggle in a big ship tbh - presumably you can't be engineered because that just takes the game from easy to easy peasy.

Oh I should mention - I'm just A-rated too.
 
LOL I'd love see you own a high intensity conflict zone with your Viper

Why? You suck at PvE so much you can't? I've done high intensity conflict zones in my Cobra Mk3, Viper Mk4, Keelback and Asp Exp. And I didn't even do any engineering back at the time...
 
I've been in a CZ for so long that my MC's ran out and I almost fell asleep from boredom so yes, I've been in those it's the way I make most of my money in fact. One time I got so bored that I zoned out and then my cockpit got cracked - omg some excitment!

But then I just left and SC'd back to the station with plenty of time left before instantly repairing and going back out there but this time, fighting for the other side!

I don't know how you struggle in a big ship tbh - presumably you can't be engineered because that just takes the game from easy to easy peasy.

Oh I should mention - I'm just A-rated too.
Why? You suck at PvE so much you can't? I've done high intensity conflict zones in my Cobra Mk3, Viper Mk4, Keelback and Asp Exp. And I didn't even do any engineering back at the time...
Okay, record your godlike skills and post the video big bois, because I can make some great stories up myself.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned

Okay, record your godlike skills and post the video big bois, because I can make some great stories up myself.

LOl what? To satisfy your curiousty you want me to spend hours making you a video. I couldn't care less if you believe it or not and you're in the minority - did you just join the forums last week or something because most people find CZ's a piece of cake around here. There's nothing godlike fighting incompetent AI but here's a tip - don't just blunder inside and start shooting - fly out to the edge then turn in and start your fight - ofc you didn't know this so you'll try it tonight and then you can make a video of your new godlike powers and post it up - how about that?
 
One of the biggest problems that I have with this game are the people - people like you, OP - who complain about the way things are without even considering the fact that you would also complain if things were "realistic"

Case in point:

the commodity market here is rigged so that as long as it so much as detects the 23 Kamitra cigars it has just sold you, in your inventory, it absolutely WILL NOT restock anymore....ever...not until you fly back to Hera Tani and offload what you have

Okay, so how could that be made more realistic? Option A: a "realistic" BGS with a simulated factory that produces X cigars per day. Maybe it's 23 tonnes per day. Fine. But here's the problem. Other players also want to buy those cigars. Someone gets there early in the morning before you get there and buys all 23. Now you're be in the forum whining, "THIS IS TOTALLY BROKEN BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE BOUGHT UP THE WHOLE SUPPLY!!" No, it's totally realistic, just like you asked for.

But okay fine, here's an alternative that is both realistic and "fair" - option B: the factory knows how many players show up each day on average. It produces X cigars and divides that number by the number of commanders and each player gets an equal allocation. And maybe that number is 23 tonnes per day. So now you're guaranteed your 23 tonnes ...per day. That means if you want more, you have to wait 24 hours. Now you'll be in the forum whining "THIS IS TOTALLY BROKEN BECAUSE IT'S MAKING ME WAIT AN ARBITRARY AMOUNT OF TIME!!! GREAT GAMEPLAY FDEV REALLY GOOD JORB"

There's option A which is the most realistic, but you wouldn't like that one. There's option B which is both realistic and fair, but you wouldn't like that one either.

So here's the way FDev actually implemented it: it's like option B but with the extra addition that it let's you cheat by getting your next day's allocation early. ZOMG! You never even considered that, did you! It's "realistic" and "fair" but also allows you to cheat/cuts you a break. You don't have to wait 3 days to unlock the engineer. You can do the whole process in one gaming session. They cut you a break, and you're literally describing this feature as though it were a bug.

And you know what, quite frankly, your post is identical to 99% of the complaints I read here.
 
LOl what? To satisfy your curiousty you want me to spend hours making you a video. I couldn't care less if you believe it or not and you're in the minority - did you just join the forums last week or something because most people find CZ's a piece of cake around here. There's nothing godlike fighting incompetent AI but here's a tip - don't just blunder inside and start shooting - fly out to the edge then turn in and start your fight - ofc you didn't know this so you'll try it tonight and then you can make a video of your new godlike powers and post it up - how about that?
Well you're the one ejecting salt faster than the speed of light, so you better back up your claims of the game's low difficulty and show me how easy it is surviving in a CZ in your unengineered Viper. Cowering at the edge and sneaking in to get kills isn't exactly testament to great piloting skills or easy difficulty. Straight up fight, like a man, not like a wuss.
But I understand it would take you hours to edit out all the rebuy screens, so
 

Okay, record your godlike skills and post the video big bois, because I can make some great stories up myself.

Ha-ha at "godlike skills" to do high intensity combat zones in Elite! You simply need to not be a clueless noob, tag enemies shot by your team and stay alive. And boost when focused by the enemy team. All of which is apparently too hard for you :rolleyes:

Well you're the one ejecting salt faster than the speed of light, so you better back up your claims of the game's low difficulty and show me how easy it is surviving in a CZ in your unengineered Viper. Cowering at the edge and sneaking in to get kills isn't exactly testament to great piloting skills or easy difficulty. Straight up fight, like a man, not like a wuss.
But I understand it would take you hours to edit out all the rebuy screens, so

Just because you suck at the game doesn't everybody else does too...

OK, enough derailing this thread with your butthurt...:x
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
Well you're the one ejecting salt faster than the speed of light, so you better back up your claims of the game's low difficulty and show me how easy it is surviving in a CZ in your unengineered Viper. Cowering at the edge and sneaking in to get kills isn't exactly testament to great piloting skills or easy difficulty. Straight up fight, like a man, not like a wuss.

I'm responding to you, there's no salt being ejected just a correction of your argument. So now it's "cowering on the edge" is it - but I never said that. Your reading comprehension also requires some work too. I better back up my claim or what, mate? You were clueless you could even do it until now and like I said, most people who post here find them easy as well. Can you stop trying to turn this into a willy measuring contest too?
 
Ha-ha at "godlike skills" to do high intensity combat zones in Elite! You simply need to not be a clueless noob, tag enemies shot by your team and stay alive. And boost when focused by the enemy team. All of which is apparently too hard for you :rolleyes:
Yeah, because only pros resort to tagging already engaged enemies by NPCs. Much skill, such wow

I'm responding to you, there's no salt being ejected just a correction of your argument. So now it's "cowering on the edge" is it - but I never said that. Your reading comprehension also requires some work too. I better back up my claim or what, mate? You were clueless you could even do it until now and like I said, most people who post here find them easy as well. Can you stop trying to turn this into a willy measuring contest too?
It's not a contest, you're the one claiming to be falling asleep in your Viper in a CZ. Prove it, and it might actually be worth something to the devs if anything you say is true. Which it isn't.
 
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That's faulty thinking too, IMO.

You should pretty-much always be carrying out the least modifications to a PP as possible.
I don't think I've ever needed a G5 engineered PP and the vast majority of my ships run with G1 or G2 engineered PPs.

Equally, with the PDist, you can "overcook" them by modding them to G5 and end up with a PDist with a quick recharge but a tiny capacity, or the opposite.
That being the case, a G3 engineered PDist is usually as much as I want.

All that being the case, Qwent is a perfectly adequate engineer to make use of.

Really? Ok, if you say so.
 
Ha-ha at "godlike skills" to do high intensity combat zones in Elite! You simply need to not be a clueless noob, tag enemies shot by your team and stay alive. And boost when focused by the enemy team. All of which is apparently too hard for you :rolleyes:



Just because you suck at the game doesn't everybody else does too...





It doesn't take hours to record video these days. OBS is completely free, easy to install and comes with a record option that is perfectly compatible for upload to YouTube right out of the box. If not, then it is so easy to convert to a format that is. The software to do so comes WITH Windows, so.....


......again. From someone else. Take an unengineered combat ship into a hazardous CZ and record the results. Then post here. Then you need to realize not everyone is a combat god due to physical limitations like age, crippling arthritis, MS, etc. and stop criticizing them because they cannot do what you can. And realize these people "deserve" to play the game and get some enjoyment out of it just as you did, because they ponied up the cash to buy it, just like you did.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
Yeah, because only pros resort to tagging already engaged enemies by NPCs. Much skill, such wow


It's not a contest, you're the one claiming to be falling asleep in your Viper in a CZ. Prove it, and it might actually be worth to the devs if anything you say is true. Which it isn't.

Mate, what exactly are you upset about? We all find it easy and you find it hard and now you're desperately trying to belittle us because we "tag" enemies? The devs are well aware of how crap their AI is thanks - go ask Sarah - do you even know who she is?
 
Just fired up the game and popped over to Patterson Enterprise, in Sirius, where a player who's just got the Sirius Permit will be allied.

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Probably took me longer to cut 'n' paste all those missions than it'd take to gather 20 MT's.
Granted, you probably wouldn't want to do one of the exploration missions if you were in a hurry but, whatev's.

Grind? Nah.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
It doesn't take hours to record video these days. OBS is completely free, easy to install and comes with a record option that is perfectly compatible for upload to YouTube right out of the box. If not, then it is so easy to convert to a format that is. The software to do so comes WITH Windows, so.....


......again. From someone else. Take an unengineered combat ship into a hazardous CZ and record the results. Then post here. Then you need to realize not everyone is a combat god due to physical limitations like age, crippling arthritis, MS, etc. and stop criticizing them because they cannot do what you can. And realize these people "deserve" to play the game and get some enjoyment out of it just as you did, because they ponied up the cash to buy it, just like you did.

Oh ... Just go and try it out for yourself, anyone can do it! Dip in, fly to the edge, then start engaging. My 8 year old nephew has no issues with this. It's easy and you'll see for yourself when you do what everyone else does. The absolute wrong way to do it is to start firing inside the bees nest.
 
Mate, what exactly are you upset about? We all find it easy and you find it hard and now you're desperately trying to belittle us because we "tag" enemies? The devs are well aware of how crap their AI is thanks - go ask Sarah - do you even know who she is?
Okay, keep blowing up smoke with your buddy mr. Brainfart over there, that's apparently the only thing you're really good at.
 
Mate, what exactly are you upset about? We all find it easy and you find it hard and now you're desperately trying to belittle us because we "tag" enemies? The devs are well aware of how crap their AI is thanks - go ask Sarah - do you even know who she is?

The AI have been deliberately limited due to the meltdown last time they got a buff.
 
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