List of combat loggers has reached 250 recorded loggers, with 322 total logs. Frontier, this is a problem

[Becks]

yeah it's going to be much easier for you to combat log in solo now right? It's okay we won't miss you!

Accusing someone of Combat Logging? So original. If you find proof you can add me to your little list.

I've played most of my time in Open, but with the coming engineer Mods it's going to be a tad too dangerous for me I would like to have my conda survive more than fifteen seconds thanks.

Edit: And don't get all salty on me. Unlike you, I don't like giving people grief

 

[CMDR DarkxXPhoenixXx]

What's wrong with it is that it should not be OK to stomp all over the game and treat it like it was Elite: Arena.

Haha, FDEV even provided a literal arena for that!

The problem, as I described above, is the motivation for the CMD Commando Rabid PvP'er o9o9o9o9 is not roleplaying being a bad guy, instead they're scrambling after their dopamine rush of "mining salt". They're not playing the game as intended by FDEV.

I'll agree with you on one point; this is FDEV's fault for not properly adding in suitable game mechanics to try to discourage the behaviour.

Meh, sounds like your opinion. I find cqc quite boring, nothing is as much fun as fighting a worthy opponent and risking your rebuy to try and beat them. I don't kill noobs those despicable pleb lords are the scum of the universe, I engage or get engaged most often by worthy opponents and find it vastly entertaining.

 

[Sole Hunter]

Accusing someone of Combat Logging? So original. If you find proof you can add me to your little list.

I've played most of my time in Open, but with the coming engineer Mods it's going to be a tad too dangerous for me I would like to have my conda survive more than fifteen seconds thanks.

not at all i'm just making assumptions after you made that comment. I don't care if you that's what you plan to do. What ever work for you. I'll still blow you up if I ever spot you in open. I mean fair game right? no hard feelings!

 

[Kyokushin]

I would like to have my conda survive more than fifteen seconds thanks.

Edit: And don't get all salty on me. Unlike you, I don't like giving people grief

Then get ultra fast Imperial Courier More fun than flying a brick, and you stay alive more than 15 seconds.

 

[frostypaw]

Have we established yet whether FDev get to define what is a legal game exit or if it's down to the teens?

Wisely we have several game modes so people can choose for themselves whether to play with you or not, if they don't want to then sometimes you just gotta deal with it.

Actually gobsmacked the list is so short for the amount of upset and indignation we hear on here. I was expecting thousands - make it to five figures and then it's a problem.

 

[Truesilver]

Garry Griefer is blowing up Sidewinders in Eravate in their Fer-de-lance when they're intercepted by an Adrian's Alpacas patrol.

Scenario 1:
- Garry Griefer exits to menu after 15 seconds. While the Alpacas are skilled and heavily armed, the FDL is too tough to be destroyed in that short a time even when it is flying straight and level. They content themselves with dropping the shields and dealing a fair bit of hull and subsystem damage.
- Garry logs back in to solo to avoid being seen, flies to the nearest station and repairs.
- Garry logs out again, logs back in to open and returns to supercruise

Scenario 2:
- Garry Griefer high wakes out, using SCBs and evasive flying to be gone in 25 seconds (10 cooldown, 15 jump). They take minor damage if any.
- Garry jumps back to Eravate

Scenario 3:
- Garry Griefer attempts to fight but is rapidly destroyed because they're not used to fighting ships which have weapons. They pay the rebuy from their billions of Robigo funds, respawn at Eravate station fully repaired and loaded, and return to interdicting Sidewinders.

The menu-log scenario is the one which stops them interdicting Sidewinders for the longest time, I think.

Dr Truesilver, Fellow of the Royal College of Amateur Vigilante Psychiatrists, ponders ...

An interesting analysis, Ian, although as a former member of Adle's Armada, I can say from from many months and hundreds (perhaps thousands) of fights in Eravate that actually Scenario 3 will save more Sideys, by an order of magnitude.

Wary as I am of forum personality analysis, the reason does appear to be personality-based. Put simply, there seems to be something in the mentality of those that prey only on those weaker than themselves that cannot and does not cope with their own ship destruction. If they high jump or log they may come back over and over.

Yet, if their ship is destroyed, they usually do not come back once and never come back twice.

Put simply, for reasons that appear entirely unrelated to the trivial cost of rebuys as you say, all you need to do to stop a sidey-slaughterer in his or her tracks is blow them up twice. If you manage to achieve that, they're gone.

It is presumably something to do with human interaction as perceived by sidey-slaughterers ... because of course one of their defining features is that they are seeking human interaction, albeit of a particular kind.

 

[Pipko]

Presumably, the option to exit remains as a means to avoid being toyed with interminably by another player who keeps disabling thrusters / FSD / Powerplant.

If you allow someone to do that kind of things with your ship, that this is because you bad at this game, period. Quit justify lack of game experience by "legit combat logging" . I'm also expecting to be banned from forum for posting using "strong language", but this is always happen with those who say the true as it is, not hiding it behind some crappy excuses.

 

[Becks]

not at all i'm just making assumptions after you made that comment. I don't care if you that's what you plan to do. What ever work for you. I'll still blow you up if I ever spot you in open.

Like I said: If you find proof of me Combat Logging add me to your little list.

For blowing me up in open: Feel free to try. ^^

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Then get ultra fast Imperial Courier More fun than flying a brick, and you stay alive more than 15 seconds.

Sure. Then I bulktrade or explore in my Courier. What a great idea.

 

[Kyokushin]

If you allow someone to do that kind of things with your ship, that this is because you bad at this game, period. Quit justify lack of game experience by "legit combat logging" . I'm also expecting to be banned from forum for posting using "strong language", but this is always happen with those who say the true as it is, not hiding it behind some crappy excuses.

U made my day. "legit combat logging" The 'graceful' way of flee

 

[CMDR DarkxXPhoenixXx]

If you allow someone to do that kind of things with your ship, that this is because you bad at this game, period. Quit justify lack of game experience by "legit combat logging" . I'm also expecting to be banned from forum for posting using "strong language", but this is always happen with those who say the true as it is, not hiding it behind some crappy excuses.

*Gets banned*

You should also phrase it better and be more eloquent when you present an argument.

 

[Kyokushin]

Like I said: If you find proof of me Combat Logging add me to your little list.

For blowing me up in open: Feel free to try. ^^

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Sure. Then I bulktrade or explore in my Courier. What a great idea.

You really think you meet a griefers on bulktrade routes and in the edges of the galaxy? I am sure they have nothing better to do than searching for you 15 000 ly from the bubble. Such interesting person.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

can't wait to kill people in 8 secs in patch 2.1 let's see who's really a cheater according to this community.

That'll show them!

I can't wait to scan planets in 8 seconds in patch 2.1, lets see .... oh wait, what am I saying?

 

[Rinzler o7o7o7]

If you allow someone to do that kind of things with your ship, that this is because you bad at this game, period. Quit justify lack of game experience by "legit combat logging" . I'm also expecting to be banned from forum for posting using "strong language", but this is always happen with those who say the true as it is, not hiding it behind some crappy excuses..

My exact thoughts

 

[Becks]

You really think you meet a griefers on bulktrade routes and in the edges of the galaxy? Such brilliance.

I'm not only on these routes or around the edges with my ExploRat build when I'm ratting. And I prefer to not get blown up when I do.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If you allow someone to do that kind of things with your ship, that this is because you bad at this game, period. Quit justify lack of game experience by "legit combat logging" . I'm also expecting to be banned from forum for posting using "strong language", but this is always happen with those who say the true as it is, not hiding it behind some crappy excuses.

My exact thoughts

That's so cute!

I'm actually quite good at this game. I'm just bad at combat.

Not that I'll ever combat log on you guys though

 

[Kyokushin]

I'm not only on these routes or around the edges with my ExploRat build when I'm ratting. And I prefer to not get blown up when I do.

Elite is Dangerous. You may blow even by docking to the station. Just get used to.
I am trading in my Cutter from time to time, not at the edges - you know what - i naver met a pirates on this route.
And what if they would kill me? Simple i will change my route.

Sorry, you cant win or defeat a wing of pirates in trading builded cutter or conda. In your conda you can always high wake. There is no i-win button, but you still can jump. Not enough?
And about exploration - heh - i never met a gankers during exploring. Never met them at docking.

You think they are waiting just for you, and they kill you when you back from the exploring?

I have news for you - universe dont care about you, and gankers don't care about you. You can trade whatever you want, explore, and a chance you will be at wrong time in wrong place is very small.
And even if you be and meet them, then what? And even if you do not make high jump in 15 seconds, and if even they destroy you? Then what? Then nothing. This is a part of gameplay.
A second word in the game le. "Dangerous".

 

[Rinzler o7o7o7]

Presumably, the option to exit remains as a means to avoid being toyed with interminably by another player who keeps disabling thrusters / FSD / Powerplant.

No.

There's an option right under the reboot/repair option that solves this issue already.

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That's so cute!

I'm actually quite good at this game. I'm just bad at combat.

same tbh

 

[Temple604]

To the people who dont understand how someone combat logging on you doesnt take anything away from your apparent "victory" here is a good example. A known combat logger likes to go seal clubbing in eravate. when a wing organizes and successfully take out his shields he can just combat log. He does not need to fear being killed and can terrorize with relative impunity. This is definately a problem for the health of the game.

 

[Bomba Luigi]

its funny with threads like these, when they start I always on the "Yeah, combat logging is stupid and makes no sense, there probably should be done more against it" but the longer these threads go and the more silly things I read the more I start go into the mindset that combat logging sounds kinda fun. One day I have to try it ^^

 

[StiTch]

I gain nothing monetary in game from blowing up another commander, and let's face it pirating isn't exactly part of the "cash cow 101" guide. I fight PvP for the challenge, because every fight is different and because it gets my pulse going.

On the other hand, knowing that somewhere out there I've hit someone hard enough that they've gone butthurt and had to close their game down, or even pull the plug on their PC, puts a massive grin on my face.

Being blown up is just part of the game. We should all do it every now and then, and if you don't then you aren't pushing yourself. But when I make someone freak out and quit, I've actually made them lose

Frontier, if you are reading this, I hope you realise that something is wrong with this game mechanic. Whether it can be blamed on the p2p architecture, the hilariously short logout timer, or the fact that the lax punishment encourages people to do it, the problem is real and it is getting worse.

It's not whether it can be blamed....it IS how P2P works. When someone cuts their connection, how do you intend their ship stays visible to you? There's no server you're both synchronising with to force the ship to stay in the instance after the logger stops adding input. And the timer is irrelevant. No combat logger with half a brain cell waits for the timer; they'll force close the application or cut their PC power.