Listing Codex bugs

marx

marx
Rather than having to dig through issues and discussions, I think it would be better to have a place where we can post and browse the various errors with the Codex. This is also because the issue tracker isn't fit to keep records of these bugs, as there are too many, they wouldn't get enough votes and they'd expire.


NSPs not working properly:
  • NSPs that are in asteroid belt clusters don't appear on the FSS, neither before nor after scanning their parent cluster (they still appear as contacts on the left panel)
  • Storm clouds spawning too rarely, compared to what they were at the Codex's launch: there are also several storm clouds in the Codex that have gone missing because of this. As part of this:
  • Proto-Lagrange Cloud listed on the Codex is not present in Outotz LI-O c21-0, and there are no bodies in the system
  • Proto-Lagrange Cloud listed on the Codex is not present in Hypao Broae RO-Z d13-2 in the Trojan Belt region
  • P-type anomaly listed in Pru Aescs NC-M d7-192 is not present, NSPs don't appear in the system
  • The Roseum Storm Cloud in Juenae OX-U e2-8852 (a DW2 minor waypoint) turned into a non-stormy Rubeum Lagrange Cloud
  • The Roseum Storm Cloud in Juenae OX-U e2-8852 (a DW2 minor waypoint) now crashes the game if you try to enter it
  • other Lagrange Clouds in the Galactic Centre and Inner Scutum-Centaurus Arm regions have turned into different types than they used to be, including storm variants turning into regular ones
  • By using fleet carrier jumps to traverse regions, entries from the original system can create a fake entry for a different system in the second region. The Codex will note it there, but there won't be anything at that location.
  • Luteolum reel molluscs in the Norma Arm region don't require planets with water-based life, it appears icy (and perhaps rocky) planets will also do
  • Bullet molluscs in the Outer Orion Spur region might generate NSPs which are in too close orbits to a body, and can't be locked on and entered via supercruise, or even if they can be entered, the cloud and contents can be moving too fast to approach with your ship
  • Albidum peduncle trees in the Temple region appear alongside bell molluscs, there are no peduncle pods present
Things failing to register properly:
  • Green Gas Giants with Ammonia-based life get reported with water-based life instead, see various examples in this post - they also cover up proper reports because of this
  • Green Gas Giants with Water-based life often not registering, see various examples in this post
  • Can't confirm the Sagittarius A* supermassive black hole entry if you've already scanned it before the Codex was introduced
  • Some kinds of anemones not registering in the Empyrean Straits region
  • Metallic crystals and Solid mineral spheres not registering in the Sanguineous Rim region
  • Metallic crystals not registering in the Hawking's Gap region
  • Albidum sinuous tubers not registering in the Ryker's Hope region
  • subsequent Lagrange Clouds not getting logged in the journal after the first discovery in the region
  • Various variants of sinuouos tubers in the Inner Orion Spur and Arcadian Stream regions all use the same coloured model, roseum tubers don't exist (despite being on the Codex)
  • Recorded greatest surface gravity of various body types might be bugged
  • Terraformable Ammonia Worlds exist in the Codex, but don't actually exist in the game
Finds already Reported but not getting Confirmed upon scanning (client-side?):
  • Various cloud-related things in the Outer Orion Spur region
  • Water and silica vapour geysers in the Norma Expanse region
Wrong information in the Codex:
Too many to list here. See the spreadsheet in the Compendium of Codex requirements thread for the errors.

NSPs which are suspected to not spawn properly - obviously, these could only be verified by the developers. These are suspicions, based on that they are missing from a sequence, both in terms of requirements and IDs of others of their kind written in the journals.
  • One variant of Collared Pods, around the Trifid nebula
  • One variant of Quadripartite Pods, in the Lyra's Song region
  • L-02 Type Anomalies, also suspected to be bugged because K10-Type Anomalies are registered under the L-Type category instead
If you find any that are missing from here (I'm fairly certain there are plenty I missed so far), or if perhaps they were fixed in a recent update, please post so!
 
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Orvidius

Orvidius
Empyrean Straits is also not registering all types of anemones. Some of those are failing to "stick" through logouts, etc.
 

Shnyrik

Shnyrik
marx said:
Things failing to register properly
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As for the Outer Orion Spur region, I would also add, that I was trying to get Caeruleum lagrange cloud in Eta Carina Sector JR-W d1-13 confirmed and didn't manage to do that, it still has "reported" status in my Codex.

Also I don't have any Codex entries not only for crystals in that region, but also for Solid mineral spheres, that, as I found, populate clouds in Eta Carina Sector EL-Y d19.
 
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marx

marx
Shnyrik said:
As for the Outer Orion Spur region, I would also add, that I was trying to get Caeruleum lagrange cloud in Eta Carina Sector JR-W d1-13 confirmed and didn't manage to do that, it still has "reported" status in my Codex.

Also I don't have any Codex entries not only for crystals in that region, but also for Solid mineral spheres, that, as I found, populate clouds in Eta Carina Sector EL-Y d19.
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Most of those errors probably only appear on your end, because I can see both the cloud and the spheres both in-game and on EDSM. However, no crystals there. Were they metallic ones, or icy / silicate? (Probably the former, but still need to be sure.)
 

Shnyrik

Shnyrik
marx said:
Most of those errors probably only appear on your end, because I can see both the cloud and the spheres both in-game and on EDSM
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Well, yes, I also see them in the Codex as "reported", but I can't get "confirmed" status by entering the cloud or scanning spheres.
marx said:
Were they metallic ones, or icy / silicate?
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Actually, I scanned all the mentioned types of crystals in 15 different locations in the Outer Orion Spur (mostly around Eta Carina Nebula) and didn't manage to get any Codex entries.

I have a table with system names, cloud types and "inhabitants", if you need it.
 
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MaultierColt308

M
Found another one, which haunts me through several regions now.

Sulphur dioxide gas vents not registering in the following regions:

Norma Expanse (the same problem exists with the Water and Silica Vapour types here as well),
Izanami
 

turkwinif

turkwinif
I don't know if this even counts as a bug, but in regards to Crystalline Shards' "distance from the nearest star" requirement, they only need to be greater than 12000 ls from the primary star in order to form, not any star. I'll commonly find them forming on a moon of a gas giant orbiting well within 12000 ls of a secondary star that itself is hundreds of thousands of light-seconds away from the primary star.
 

marx

marx
Shnyrik said:
I have a table with system names, cloud types and "inhabitants", if you need it.
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Please do, it should be good for double-checking.

MaultierColt308 said:
Found another one, which haunts me through several regions now.

Sulphur dioxide gas vents not registering in the following regions:

Norma Expanse (the same problem exists with the Water and Silica Vapour types here as well),
Izanami
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Do you mean that you scan them, and they don't change to Confirmed, just stay at Reported? I see the entries in the Codex.

turkwinif said:
I don't know if this even counts as a bug, but in regards to Crystalline Shards' "distance from the nearest star" requirement, they only need to be greater than 12000 ls from the primary star in order to form, not any star. I'll commonly find them forming on a moon of a gas giant orbiting well within 12000 ls of a secondary star that itself is hundreds of thousands of light-seconds away from the primary star.
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Yeah, that sounds like a text error. Still, it's probably better this way, but the text says what it says - nearest star, not system main star.

Rooster Podunk said:
Marx, doing what Frontier should have done, fly around and see for yourself what's broke and making a list.
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Well, yes, they should. Just not on the live build, because they'd tag them on the Codex :D
 
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CMDR X

CMDR X
Great list thanks.

Things also failing to register properly:

  • First discoveries and first mappings are completely missing from our Codex page. How do we see what systems have our name on it?
 

Just Call Me Dave

Just Call Me Dave
X2611 said:
Great list thanks.

Things also failing to register properly:

  • First discoveries and first mappings are completely missing from our Codex page. How do we see what systems have our name on it?
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That one isn't a bug, it was a deliberate design decision not to include that information.
 

marx

marx
A rather serious new one added: the NSPs in Wredguia XD-K d8-24 often fail to appear, and you have to relog several times for them to do so.

Also, I think the Phoeniceum gourd molluscs in there might have a missing line in the Codex requirements, namely that they require a carbon star. The only "special" requirement actually listed is the presence of an ELW in the system, but in the whole region, there is only this one system containing these molluscs. (This is the IOS we're talking about.) Perhaps coincidentally, in the whole region, there is only one carbon star system known to contain an ELW.
But if Frontier actually set such a requirement (carbon star system + ELW), well, that's... quite restrictive.

In any case, if the presence of an ELW were the only thing required for these mollusc variants, we'd be seeing a lot more of them - which we aren't. So, something is missing there.
 

MaultierColt308

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I may have encountered another region, where sulphur dioxide gas vents are reported, but failed to confirm for me.
So, I was camping at a volcanic site on planet A1 in the Auzah KS-P b10-0 system in the Hieronymus Delta. The site consisted of those Sulphur Dioxide Gas Vents, but mixed with the Fumaroles of the same kind (Sulphur Dioxide). And now guess what happened...

Yep, the fumaroles registered properly, and no sign of registration for the gas vents. Here it is again.
Maybe this bug I encountered in 3 regions now is because the Gas Vents are sometimes mixed with the other things instead of being sole? When I find "Gas Vents only" at a site, they register properly... :unsure:
 

marx

marx
Another update to this, with more serious issues too.
I wish I could say in an update that I removed things that were fixed. But hey, here we are, over a year from Chapter Four's release.
 

Mooing

M
Issues related to GGG's:
  • Dryooe Prou FF-Z d696 in Odin's Hold doesn't appear in the codex (Gas Giant with Water-based life)
  • Hypao Chraea VQ-T d4-8 in Outer Arm is reported as a Gas Giant with Water-based life (It has Ammonia-based life)
  • Col 285 Sector VU-M c8-1 in Inner Orion Spur is reported as a Gas Giant with Water-based life (It has Ammonia-based life)
    • This issue covers up Bleia Dryiae HF-W b35-1 which is a Gas Giant with Water-based life
  • Byoomi XE-X d2-7844 in Galactic Centre is reported as a Gas Giant with Water-based life (It has Ammonia-based life)
  • Neither Blua Hypa HT-F D12-1226 nor Eol Prou KW-L c8-32 in Inner Scutum-Centaurus Arm appears in the codex (Gas Giant with Water-based life)
It looks like the codex doesn't report glowing GGWBL and misreports glowing GGABL.
 

marx

marx
A few new things added. Most notably, I've confirmed that there are Peduncle trees in the Temple region as well (found them around the Guardian nebula so far, will have to see if there are others elsewhere), it's just that the composition scan doesn't complete. Added them to the galactic regions and life types listing too.
 
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