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The real shame is that you guys can dish it out but you can't take it. Sad.

Oh, and my critique of the thread premise still stands, even after all this. It's almost bizarre to witness such Twilight Zone levels of bias and mis-information, but I've come to expect nothing less:)
 
Oh, and my critique of the thread premise still stands, even after all this.

You had your chance to construct your argument. People, including people with an MD or other medical training and qualifications, politely listened to your arguments (which somehow includes "nu-uh, u mexican lol!') and found it unconvincing. You are free to dismiss the opinions from those with infinitely more training, knowledge and experience than you'll ever have. But the "jason disagrees with experts about things he knows nothing about' routine is becoming a bit stale, to be honest. And I know that you'll translate that to 'lol u cant take it, u woke liberal snowflake!' or some other tired prefab line, but its all just boring.
 
What are you on about? "I had my chance to construct an argument" and I did. My argument wins, due to the fact that I used logic and reason, whilst the (supposedly) educated among you have simply employed a strange combination of fake news, back slapping each other and sneering at me that I'm wrong.

When someone with an interest in bashing America for it's healthcare comes up with something besides an insignificant statistical anomaly I'll be happy to engage the point, but citing third world statistics passed off as being relative to the premise, well, I'm going to call bull manure. Sorry you don't like that, Ian, but that's how logic works.
 
Donald Trump must have hacked jason's account...

It is interesting how similar the musings of our 'independent thinker' are to the 'Fox News Greatest Hits'. Weird how that goes. :p

My argument wins

I am afraid that this is, unfortunately, not how a debate works.

whilst the (supposedly) educated among you
There is nothing 'supposed' about the education of Robin, me and others. Its revealing how much you struggle to acknowledge it.

When someone with an interest in bashing America for it's healthcare
Robin has spend decades of his lives curing people and saving lives, that is his interest. Note how in the OP there is no mention of the US, the only individual called by name is British and the articles deal with Pakistan, Congo and global statistics. Yet somehow it is still an attack on the US, you, your values and whatever else you want to drag into it. I hope that one day you can frame a statement you don't immediately agree with (and usually simply do not understand for obvious reasons) in terms beyond "U MY ENEMY I ATTACK YOU!!!!!".

comes up with something besides an insignificant statistical anomaly

I suggest you stop using the term 'significant'. You've tried it a few times, and it is quite clear you dont quite understand what it means. Which, again, is okay because you have no training in statistics. Just use 'trivial' instead. It is fine, really.
 
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It was an ad-hominem simply because it's only premise was merely that I'm a mexican to disqualify what I said. Jason counter = 12.

He thinks 'ad hominem' means 'being nasty', he then remembers he meant it in a funny/'ironic' way instead of being mean so concludes it can't be a fallacy. Of course it is one, and a painfully poor one at that, but as I said earlier: he doesn't mean bad. This is just the best he has.
 
It is interesting how similar the musings of our 'independent thinker' are to the 'Fox News Greatest Hits'. Weird how that goes. :p



I am afraid that this is, unfortunately, not how a debate works.


There is nothing 'supposed' about the education of Robin, me and others. Its revealing how much you struggle to acknowledge it.



Robin has spend decades of his lives curing people and saving lives, that is his interest. Note how in the OP there is no mention of the US, the only individual called by name is British and the articles deal with Pakistan, Congo and global statistics. Yet somehow it is still an attack on the US, you, your values and whatever else you want to drag into it. I hope that one day you can frame a statement you don't immediately agree with (and usually simply do not understand for obvious reasons) in terms beyond "U MY ENEMY I ATTACK YOU!!!!!".
For starters, I've never seen a poster on this forum engage in more blatant America bashing than our own Mr. Spiritwood, and secondly, I only reverted from "western civ" to "America" in this thread after it became crystal clear from Robyn that that's what he was talking about. Either you missed that gradual morphing, or you're willfully choosing to ignore it.

He might be a doctor who cures people, but that doesn't mean that's what his interest is. In fact, I'd say that on this forum that was as far from his "interest" as you could get. Oh, and speaking of "dishing it out but not being able to take it:" quit attacking me, and this goes for all of you who engage me on this level, and expecting me not to fight back. My opinions differ from yours but I'm rarely treated with the respect that you yourselves expect. Somebody wants to engage me respectfully when they disagree, then they'll get respectful responses right back. Didn't they teach that to you in the University where you got your psychology degree?
 
For starters, I've never seen a poster on this forum engage in more blatant America bashing than our own Mr. Spiritwood, and secondly, I only reverted from "western civ" to "America" in this thread after it became crystal clear from Robyn that that's what he was talking about. Either you missed that gradual morphing, or you're willfully choosing to ignore it.

He might be a doctor who cures people, but that doesn't mean that's what his interest is. In fact, I'd say that on this forum that was as far from his "interest" as you could get. Oh, and speaking of "dishing it out but not being able to take it:" quit attacking me, and this goes for all of you who engage me on this level, and expecting me not to fight back. My opinions differ from yours but I'm rarely treated with the respect that you yourselves expect. Somebody wants to engage me respectfully when they disagree, then they'll get respectful responses right back. Didn't they teach that to you in the University where you got your psychology degree?

No Jason, the issue is not being disrepectful, it's using insults as arguments which is what you've been doing for the last page or so.
 
Fascinating. Jason claims to have won the argument, and then gets upset when people point out that nobody agrees with him. A failure of logic, somewhere, I think...
 
No Jason, the issue is not being disrepectful, it's using insults as arguments which is what you've been doing for the last page or so.
I have not used insults as arguments, Gregg. You might have taken that one comment as an insult, but it had nothing whatsoever to do with my arguments.
 
I have not used insults as arguments, Gregg. You might have taken that one comment as an insult, but it had nothing whatsoever to do with my arguments.

That's some seriously weak baloney right there my young friend. Also, given your nationality and the mind boggling number of illegal entries from Mexico for the purposes of partaking of our glorious economic system, I find your use of the words "spread across borders" in such a self righteous tone deeply ironic 😂

I mean, you don't even keep up with what you say.
 
I mean, you don't even keep up with what you say.
Yep, and I copped to that one as being insulting and not supporting my argument. Personally, I thought I was just pointing out some really deep irony, but if that's how it's going to be, I guess that's how it's going to be. As to the rest of your comment, though, about me having nothing but insults for the last few pages, that would be incorrect, as I've already pointed out. Nice for you guys that I gave you the necessary tool to turn this into a character piece instead of having to stand behind your weird thread premise.
 
Yep, and I copped to that one as being insulting and not supporting my argument. Personally, I thought I was just pointing out some really deep irony, but if that's how it's going to be, I guess that's how it's going to be. As to the rest of your comment, though, about me having nothing but insults for the last few pages, that would be incorrect, as I've already pointed out. Nice for you guys that I gave you the necessary tool to turn this into a character piece instead of having to stand behind your weird thread premise.

I didn't say all of your posts were insults, they sure were wrong though.
 
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