Mercs of Mikunn results after 3 weeks of effort - Also a request for documentation, in game and out

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Mr Brookes, I think this has been asked 4 times now (3 by me), promise this is the last time :)

Does blowing up faction ships (clean or otherwise) and authority ships have an effect on the factions when you do it outside of bulletin board missions?

Along the same lines, does blockading a faction's station (thoretically reducing the amount of trade it does) also help influence change?
 
I don't know and no they can't get involved in another civil war until their cooldown is expired.

Michael

Interesting. Assuming both Jerzy7 and I are correct in spotting Law Party in Civil War pending, does that sound like a bug since no other faction is?

I'd hate to spend another minimum 3 days, on top of the last 3 weeks trying to get Civil War, only to have it not work again.
 
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Been cruising imperial space and saw few imperial factions expand like wildfire during last few weeks. Patron's principles and emperor's grace come to mind, and few others too I met in different systems extensively. Not only that, but also, these factions quickly overthrown the ruling minors and assumed control. I wonder if that's a result of concerted effort/bug abuse or some other intricate reason behind all of this, like background sim. going bananas..., or working as intended? Looks especially puzzling, given the three week cool down we had and one-active-state-per rules.
 
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Michael Brookes

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Mr Brookes, I think this has been asked 4 times now (3 by me), promise this is the last time :)

Does blowing up faction ships (clean or otherwise) and authority ships have an effect on the factions when you do it outside of bulletin board missions?

Along the same lines, does blockading a faction's station (thoretically reducing the amount of trade it does) also help influence change?

You can influence a minor faction's influence by destroying their ships.

Blockading doesn't work against trade.

Michael
 
Interesting. Assuming both Jerzy7 and I are correct in spotting Law Party in Civil War pending, does that sound like a bug since no other faction is?

I'd hate to spend another minimum 3 days, on top of the last 3 weeks trying to get Civil War, only to have it not work again.

Downloaded patch and checked. Law party does have civil war in pending. BTW we are all assuming that if it doesn't say critical it means its in cooldown is that correct Michael?
 
Downloaded patch and checked. Law party does have civil war in pending. BTW we are all assuming that if it doesn't say critical it means its in cooldown is that correct Michael?

That's what Elemental thinks, but I don't think that's true. Yesterday we were in Civil War Cool Down, but didn't have Civil War in the Pending slot for Dukes of Mikunn. I just think it's correlation. If you're in conditions promoting Civil War leading up to Civil War, you'll likely still be in the same conditions afterwards, putting you in Civil War Pending, even if you just finished a Civil War (putting you in Civil War Cool Down).

Mr. Brookes, any word if Law Party being in Civil War Pending alone in the system is a bug?
 
You can influence a minor faction's influence by destroying their ships.

Blockading doesn't work against trade.

Michael

Aren't there any ideas to extend ways players can do a blockade? For example taking down traders...should have some impact in system regarding trade (not security)? Would be nice.
 
Aren't there any ideas to extend ways players can do a blockade? For example taking down traders...should have some impact in system regarding trade (not security)? Would be nice.

That would be wealth. Or standard of living. Or development level. Don't think there's direct trade metric.
 
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Just pointing out that this statement by Michael contradicts other statemeents he made two weeks ago in this same thread.

If you mean this post by Michael Brookes, that's not exactly what he said. He said the lesser stations of the controlling minor faction need to be taken first. I think we all assumed that meant all the minor stations must be captured (regardless of who owns it) before the controlling station gets taken. What Michael Brookes stated, means we need to capture Friend Enterprise before Hiraga Station. If this is true, we can skip Gabriel completely.
 
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Not quite, you need win a civil war against the faction that owns the controlling station. You'd need to capture their lesser holdings first.

Michael
Note Michael actually said "their" lesser holdings. That's why I asked this again. I realized Michael might have meant the lesser holdings of the controlling faction rather that any lesser holding run by non controlling factions.
 
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Note Michael actually said "their" lesser holdings. That's why I asked this again. I realized Michael might have meant the lesser holdings of the controlling faction rather that any lesser holding run by non controlling factions.

Glad you brought it up. Looks like it could lead to a change in strategy.
 
As soon as a civil war is concluded, the most valuable space station is transferred from the loser to the winner, so I'd expect the system's major faction to change hands if the invaders won the fight.

Michael

But here we have him saying the most valuable space station is transferred to the winner.
 
looks like USS hunting for youre faction of choice is the way to do it, war zones of course, nav points and resource sites, though i wonder if hutning in a certain Ls of a station counts as a zone of sorts. So one would say take station a and 100Ls around said station any kills at all might be applied to the various factions around that station. Maybe then or system as a whole counts.... Not sure the devs have been a bit moot on this point
 
The Dukes should now have their civil war cooldown reset. And future civil wars will now have a 3 day cooldown period.

Michael


Mr. Brookes is it possible that two or more seperate civil wars between more minor factions in a system can take place at the same time ?
For example in Lugh the Crimson State group with Lugh for Equality and Silver Natural LTD with Lugh defence force. If its not possible i think the problem in Lugh for CSG to trigger another civil war with LFE now is that there is an ongoing civil war cooldown (since 07.02.2015) triggered by the Silver Natural LTD and Lugh Defence force (both faction holding 0.1% influence).
Can you tell us why CSG (pending states boom and lockdown) doesnt trigger the next civil war with LFE (pending state boom). Is it because of CSG's lockdown cooldown or the ongoing civil war cooldown between SN LTD and LDF ?
If its the ongoing cooldown period outgoing by SN LTD and LDF which CSG holds off to get into civil war with LFE would you be so kind and reset the cooldwon period of SN LTD and LDF (they went into civil war and cooldown before the patch yesterday) to three days because waiting another 20 days would be very frustating for us here in Lugh as we working now for about three months for this project.
 
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Mr. Brookes,

We may have hit a snag. We've found every mission we do for the Dukes of Mikunn in HR 7327 displays the Influence level in Mikunn, instead of HR 7327. Is that suppose to be that way? Is it possible this is similar to the State changes going to the wrong faction with an expanded faction bug?

If this is a bug where Influence is going to the wrong system, either it's new with 1.1, or just visible now that we can see the Influence Level for each Faction in the Mission After Action Report. We figured out it's going to Mikunn, because the Dukes are only 40.7% in HR 7327, yet the Influence bar shows 100%, implying Influence level in Mikunn.

Here are some examples:
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Cargo Transport
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Food gift to New HR 7327 Future (Dukes not involved at all), yet Influence also went to Dukes of Mikunn in the wrong system
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I can see why we are having problems with influence. If its not a display error most of the missions we run in HR seem to only help the dukes in Mikunn. Another thing sometimes I get missions dukes in HR want some product. I go buy it return to turn it in and some faction from a nearby system which is not even in Hr gets effected?!?
 
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