Microsoft Flight Simulator

Edit: Done a Zürich-Madrid flight with A320 FBW with no other addon, and it was finally a smooth experience apart:
  • ATC constantly misjudging my altitude
  • AP suddely deciding to veer off course upon approach towards a mountain (i.e. had to land manually)
  • on exit to main menu and monitor the font size in the main menu went 2x smaller

Glad you had a (mostly) smooth experience finally. Shouldn't have to re-install, but... it does seem to help. 🤷‍♀️

I think SU5 knackered people's installs rather than being an especially buggy update in itself (which has been largely fixed anyway through hotfixes, but that won't solve an already broken install). That's the impression I get, reading around.

I am happy to report that here the autopilot (without any manual intervention whatsoever) is still broken, so I can still crash into mountains or land 10 miles from the runway and it tries to go the remaining distance on the ground (kinda). I was slightly concerned that they'd fixed that hilarious bug with this update, as some kind of kiosk mode for the Xbox version in stores. But, no. :)

At some point, I will clear some space on my desk and break out the HOTAS again so I can do a proper flight.
 
I did a full re-install after SU5 was causing weird and inconsistent issues, not always CTD but just glitches.

I have a clean install now, saved off to an external drive to go back to if things go 'wobbly' again. Running fine, FBW A320 now working again. I bought the DC6 from PMDG - not cheap but WOW! Fantastic quality.

Also still amazed by the quality of the graphics in this title, here's one from June...
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Loving the Pitts Special and can’t wait for the racing to be added. I explore with a float plane.
I get 18fps on a 2g video card, so it’s playable in 1080. 🤠🤘🇨🇦
 
2 hours of mucking about and I can''t get the stupid thing to update - good lord what complete nonsense.

EDIT: For some reason it turns out one has to install the "XBOX" app on your PC - this is complete garbage, MSFS says go to one place - only after digging through fora does one find the tip to install another daft Micro$oft marketing tool application.
 
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2 hours of mucking about and I can''t get the stupid thing to update - good lord what complete nonsense.

EDIT: For some reason it turns out one has to install the "XBOX" app on your PC - this is complete garbage, MSFS says go to one place - only after digging through fora does one find the tip to install another daft Micro$oft marketing tool application.

The game updates have certainly been a bit clunky recently, but in fact this last update was actually (for me) better than any previously in that it didn't redirect me to the Microsoft store. When I fired up the game it immediately and automatically updated the core game (I noticed it was updated in the game's window), then after a few moments went to the actual updater in game and prompted me to download 2 and a bit GB of stuff.

As for the Xbox app, that's been needed all along, at least I have always needed it (bought from MS store, not Steam) and it's always been on my PC. There have even been a couple of occasions when I've needed to update the Xbox app for the game to function properly. Don't know whether you run it via Steam, and that may have been different.
 
As for the Xbox app, that's been needed all along, at least I have always needed it (bought from MS store, not Steam) and it's always been on my PC. There have even been a couple of occasions when I've needed to update the Xbox app for the game to function properly. Don't know whether you run it via Steam, and that may have been different.

I have it on Steam, and don't have the Xbox app installed. Everything updated fine. Usual rule of clearing out the Community folder applies before you start.

Originally, I had this on MS Gamepass, but then I stopped that & bought it on Steam instead. I was having great difficulty in actually logging in to my MS account in the game, and one of the steps I followed was to completely remove the Xbox app. Don't have an Xbox, so don't care about it. That's the only real issue I've had keeping this game up to date. 🤷‍♀️
 
The game updates have certainly been a bit clunky recently, but in fact this last update was actually (for me) better than any previously in that it didn't redirect me to the Microsoft store. When I fired up the game it immediately and automatically updated the core game (I noticed it was updated in the game's window), then after a few moments went to the actual updater in game and prompted me to download 2 and a bit GB of stuff.

As for the Xbox app, that's been needed all along, at least I have always needed it (bought from MS store, not Steam) and it's always been on my PC. There have even been a couple of occasions when I've needed to update the Xbox app for the game to function properly. Don't know whether you run it via Steam, and that may have been different.

I have not had that Xbox thing installed before now. What annoyed me was that the MSFS update sent me to the MS Store - with no mention of the Xbox app. I don't know whether others feel the same but ever since the Xbox release the whole MSFS "experience" seems changed (read dumbed-down / clunky). I'm probably just an old Luddite. :)

P.S. Not via Steam.
 
I have not had that Xbox thing installed before now. What annoyed me was that the MSFS update sent me to the MS Store - with no mention of the Xbox app. I don't know whether others feel the same but ever since the Xbox release the whole MSFS "experience" seems changed (read dumbed-down / clunky). I'm probably just an old Luddite. :)

P.S. Not via Steam.

Ok, that's really quite strange as every update that I have had until SU5 did as you describe and took me to the MS store *, to the MSFS2020 page where it recognized an update was available and downloaded the first GB or so, then the game started in the new version and the bulk of the download was done from within the game, whereas since SU5 the two small updates took me to the store (homepage, not MSFS page) and the updates happened in the background, and this last one did not take me to the store but opened the game already updated (the version number was new) and then the game started and the major part of the download happened as it always does within the game. So seemingly the opposite to your experience!

As to Xbox stuff... I do not and have never owned an Xbox, essentially I play the very few games I play on a PC. When I purchased MSFS (on release and from the MS store) I had to make an Xbox / Windows account in order to play it as it's always been an Xbox game - it's the first splash screen that comes up when the game boots. I guess that is why I needed the Xbox app as I never voluntarily / consciously downloaded it, and it just sits on my PC doing nothing - well it obviously does something, but no idea what, other than the fact that I'm logged into my Xbox / MS account... :) And this was at release, way before the actual Xbox release of the game.

* Edit - Previously I would start the game and it would come up with a screen saying a mandatory update was available / required, clicking on that would open the store and the core update was downloaded there, within the store. After that, clicking play in the store the game would open and then the subsequent larger downloads happened in-game.
 
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Well, I finally uninstalled MSFS. Not because I don't want to fly it, but because DCS is so good even though I'm failing at basic tasks. :)
I will definitely re-install it at one point, but I guess after the steep learning curve in DCS I'll probably want to fly study level aircraft only. :)

Ok, that's really quite strange as every update that I have had until SU5 did as you describe and took me to the MS store *, to the MSFS2020 page where it recognized an update was available and downloaded the first GB or so, then the game started in the new version and the bulk of the download was done from within the game, whereas since SU5 the two small updates took me to the store (homepage, not MSFS page) and the updates happened in the background, and this last one did not take me to the store but opened the game already updated (the version number was new) and then the game started and the major part of the download happened as it always does within the game. So seemingly the opposite to your experience!

As to Xbox stuff... I do not and have never owned an Xbox, essentially I play the very few games I play on a PC. When I purchased MSFS (on release and from the MS store) I had to make an Xbox / Windows account in order to play it as it's always been an Xbox game - it's the first splash screen that comes up when the game boots. I guess that is why I needed the Xbox app as I never voluntarily / consciously downloaded it, and it just sits on my PC doing nothing - well it obviously does something, but no idea what, other than the fact that I'm logged into my Xbox / MS account... :) And this was at release, way before the actual Xbox release of the game.

* Edit - Previously I would start the game and it would come up with a screen saying a mandatory update was available / required, clicking on that would open the store and the core update was downloaded there, within the store. After that, clicking play in the store the game would open and then the subsequent larger downloads happened in-game.

I think Eggs Box account is needed for the data streaming/multiplayer service aspect. Once I noted that I have severely tiled and downgraded terrain and it went hand-in-hand with issues logging into it. Once I fixed that, the scenery got upgraded again.
 
I think Eggs Box account is needed for the data streaming/multiplayer service aspect. Once I noted that I have severely tiled and downgraded terrain and it went hand-in-hand with issues logging into it. Once I fixed that, the scenery got upgraded again.

Could be... I just recall that when I purchased it I needed to have an xbox account to play - I have no other MS account, so perhaps that is why. 🤷‍♂️

I have to say that I have been having some really fun flights recently, performance is on the whole really good (although it heats up my PC like nothing else). As I've said before, I am a great fan of the working title mods for the Garmin 1000 and 3000, and also their CJ4 mod. Did a really nice flight from Oakland to Salt Lake City in the CJ4, total VNAV descent and approach, really good, and then yesterday a short flight in northern Alaska in the 172 through heavy cloud cover, again a VNAV descent and approach. Clouds were really good, it even felt disorientating, and the runway only coming into view about 4 miles out. Almost feels like I'm flying. :)
 
Could be... I just recall that when I purchased it I needed to have an xbox account to play - I have no other MS account, so perhaps that is why. 🤷‍♂️

I have to say that I have been having some really fun flights recently, performance is on the whole really good (although it heats up my PC like nothing else). As I've said before, I am a great fan of the working title mods for the Garmin 1000 and 3000, and also their CJ4 mod. Did a really nice flight from Oakland to Salt Lake City in the CJ4, total VNAV descent and approach, really good, and then yesterday a short flight in northern Alaska in the 172 through heavy cloud cover, again a VNAV descent and approach. Clouds were really good, it even felt disorientating, and the runway only coming into view about 4 miles out. Almost feels like I'm flying. :)

Don't get me wrong, I still love it and did not rage-uninstall or anything like that, it is just DCS looks really interesting. I might fail at really unlocking it though as it is very difficult.
 
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