Pirates want cargo, so they should give you time to get some. I don't know why that is so hard to understand?
Mining is becoming a joke
- Thread starter Limoncello Lizard
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Really, 8 kylies out and you still get jumped if you mine with something in your hold? That's pathetic.
Reading comprehension is your friend. Read your quoted post again. They were asking a question. The answer is no.
Mining is always best with a friend! Especially if that friend brings along some plasma accelerators. And then more friends show up.
Here we see a trio of Lakon Type 9s mining relatively peacefully in a haz res, of all places, while three more combat oriented ships provide security.
Here we see a trio of Lakon Type 9s mining relatively peacefully in a haz res, of all places, while three more combat oriented ships provide security.
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It's funny isn't it, everyone seems to have a "cure" for the problem with Random pirates appearing every single time no matter where you are.
They just don't get that it's not the fact we don't know how to avoid the situation, it's the sheer immersion breaking inaneness of the RNG spawned adversaries. In fact it's almost not RNG because it's consistently total bull.
I really wish all NPC interaction felt even slightly realistic instead of totally gamey. I.e. Actual in game population density used to calculate actual percentage chance of interaction (then scaled up because we don't actually live in the game 24/7 for 40 years.)
The fact that insignificant cargo (say 1 tonne of turds) changes the interaction so entirely when you hardly ever (never?) get to keep the cargo the ship was carrying if you destroy it anyway is just pathetic, no other word. OK, sure, purchasing ahold full of slaves or whatever at a station might alert a stooge who then contacts his buddies and informs them of a cutter about to leave the station is a fair game mechanic, but not randomly after picking up one crate of tea from a random planet's surface in a random system.
Why can't people see it's the shallow, first year-computing-degree grade logic that we despise?
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Exactly.
I didn't start thsi thread because I don't know how to avoid pirates when I mine. But I've read many threads and helped players who do have trouble. I also find it a bit tedious to have exactly the same thing happen every time I drop into a ring to mine. What is really annoying is that FD have recently coded this to happen, since it certainly wasn't the case prior to 2.1.
It won't stop me mining, I still enjoy it. But it does impact on the choice of ship I use. I will be selling my T9 tonight, as I can't be bothered with it any more. I have an Orca, Clipper and a Courier equipped for mining, and they all suit the style that works for me now.
Well, it's what passes for content in this game. Just like the pirates who know exactly what you're carrying the moment you drop into any random system.
Your example is a case in point. Now some things FRONTIER fails to understand about game development. Gameplay is interesting when RISK is offset by REWARD and there exist VARIETY in OPTIONS of things to do. I know that is a lot of big capital words but bear with me. VARIETY is where we do things which are similar in some ways but different in others. OPTIONS are where we can choose between different levels of risk and reward though VARIETY. There is little difference in the risk vs reward for mining if you don't know the inside work arounds for how to handle the AI.
This is a FRONTIER Failure not the players.
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Mining at Jaques is where there are no AI. If you mine within 50 LY of the bubble or inside the bubble the AI are a constant presence.
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FACT: The AI home in on any ship dropped into a ring to perform a scan since 2.1 update.
FACT: The AI used to attack ships for carrying limpets only. Now they do not.
FACT: The AI pirates that spawn will attack any ship with any cargo so long as they have 1 ton of any ore cargo and they will attack that ship until it is destroyed or they are destroyed or you jump out.
FACT: Should the pilot lose connection or experience a connection error, upon rejoining the ring, another set of AI spawn in automatically to rinse and repeat the previously explained game play experience.
FACT: Once you leave the rings you have upwards of a 50% chance to be immediately interdicted upon leaving the rings with any amount of ore cargo.
FACT: The only way to safely enter the rings for mining with minimum AI interference is to drop at the RES, and immediately move between 15-30KM from the RES. If you drop at the RES site, no additional AI will spawn on you however the AI already at the RES will come to investigate you if you get within 10-15KM of the RES.
Now that you have the FACTS good luck mining.
This is a definite improvement.
It does offset the hyper aggressive pirates a little.
But it does mean that you have to get your mining done in one session. Potentially no jumping out and jumping back in to refresh the session.
I've never had this problem, honestly. I drop into a ring away from resource sites, fly about 30-40 k away from my wake signal, and go to work. Try logging out/back in? This seems like a bug, honestly.
This is how the game plays when you mine now since the update. HELLO?
Rank and reputation may make a difference. Even though this works against me, I hope it does, as I wouldn't want new players to have to deal with this.
Or FD should just listen to feedback from their players and correct this issue. There is no logical reason for pirates to spawn just because I happen to drop into an asteroid belt. Especially when the system is uninhabited. I do not want to mine using my Anaconda or Corvette. Why is this so hard to understand?
I never drop into a res site to mine, never have cargo when I start (thanks for the warning previously mr. Tasty narn), and never stop anywhere near my wake. I still see pirates from time to time while mining. I also see them every time I drop into the ring. It is annoying, but not too much. Like when I order a burger with no rabbit food and I get lots of rabbit food. I'm fairly certain the OP knows what he's doing.
Oh ya, thanks for telling me about boosting past them too Limoncello.
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Not sure what you mean brother, please extrapolate
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About this - I can't remember where (I know, big help that is) but I could swear I saw that in 2.2 the AI behavior regarding pirates demanding cargo will change to give players actual time to respond and capitulate to demands.
just accept that when you mine you may see some priates thats the way it is ive been mining all week and had to stop to fight 2 times so NO its not excesive
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I was thinking more Benny Hill, but you are getting the right idea.