PvP My experience with the PvP hub - a shout out and kudos

ryan_m

Banned
While its wonderful you tried your hand at PVP.

Do you think maybe it is your personality being a little delicate, rather than CGI being a "Salty hell hole?"

CGI is an extremely active place of learning. Much like Universities!

The general chat is a wasteland, but the other sub-channels are useful if you want to learn.
 
I want to give a special thanks to UnReALnan for changing his name in honor of me , The greatest lord gimballmander, premium pack hound, fly backwards cmdr ever to PVP in Elite. May your pips forever and always stay 4-0-2. o7
 
I want to give a special thanks to UnReALnan for changing his name in honor of me , The greatest lord gimballmander, premium pack hound, fly backwards cmdr ever to PVP in Elite. May your pips forever and always stay 4-0-2. o7

I consider this naming and shaming, pls remove kthx.
 
I kind of wish the game itself in its potential was more equitable between my style of play and PVP. It's something I'd rather like to contend with if that were the case. Very much so, actually. Unfortunately, the meta is what it is. [blah]

I know what you mean. I've always loved PvP games, but never the MMO types. FPS has always been more enjoyable to me. I think the meta aspect is what turnes me off them.

As long as you have character building, you get boring meta. Fortunately we almost don't have character building in ED. Most of it is pushed over to ship building and we can freely switch ships.

Unfortunately players have mostly received the toys they have pointed at, from FD. This has led to rather extreme meta builds. They are so specialized and takes so long to build that we are basically in the same boat as if we had character building.

It's ok to lose a fight because of skill, tactics or because i chose the wrong weapon. I despise the fact that grinding and/or lucky dice may be just as decisive.

As people say, perhaps this isn't the game for you then?

Well, it isn't. That's why i don't really PvP in ED. I love the rest of the game though. [big grin]

P.S. Not mining.
 
I also wanted to mention something particular about the so called rules. Some people may or may not know i am part of a pvp group known as the Empire's 13th legion. In our PVP journey as the 13th legion we have made a lot of enemies using particular methods to defeat our enemies in combat. Some of these methods include using healing beams, and also heat weapons to counter high heat producing builds with P.A's And Rails. Known PVP groups such as SDC, Adle's Armada, Rsm, nomads etc all use high heat producing builds, and in defense we used heat and heal beams. For months they Continually bashed us with insults and hate because we used Weapons they considered "broken mechanics" to counter their builds, when in fact we were just using what was available in game. That being said, there are two particular rules that the PVP Hub has been enforced. 1. You cannot use heal beams 2. you cannot use heat weapons. Now i would really like to think this is just a coincidence but i beg to defer. With heal beams and heat mechanics both fixed in recent patches, why are these rules part of the pvp hub? If the PVP hub is in fact a place where people can learn about pvp and get better, why are there rules that discriminate certain play styles and weapons choices? the answer is simple ...The PVP hub is run by the exact same groups that hated these particular weapon mod choices. With all this being said, there a few of these cmdr's , which their names will not be mentioned out of respect, that are admins and mods of the PVP hub. These particular cmdr's mentioned on several occasions that they would love to see the 13th legion group disbanded. Because of these particular rules a lot of our members are not able to participate cause their builds are based on heat and healing weapons. We should be Free to use whatever type of weapons we feel at Hub and not be discriminated or insulted when doing so. These rules shouldn't be implemented if this PVP HUB is really a place to learn and get you ready for pvp outside of the hub. Stop the Discrimination on weapon choices and let us be free to PVP they way we enjoy. A PVP hub should be a place for anybody and everybody to freely have fun and use what ever they think is best for pvp...even if that includes heat and healing.
 
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ryan_m

Banned
I also wanted to mention something particular about the so called rules. Some people may or may not know i am part of a pvp group known as the Empire's 13th legion. In our PVP journey as the 13th legion we have made a lot of enemies using particular methods to defeat our enemies in combat. Some of these methods include using healing beams, and also heat weapons to counter high heat producing builds with P.A's And Rails. Known PVP groups such as SDC, Adle's Armada, Rsm, nomads etc all use high heat producing builds, and in defense we used heat and heal beams. For months they Continually bashed us with insults and hate because we used Weapons they considered "broken mechanics" to counter their builds, when in fact we were just using what was available in game. That being said, there are two particular rules that the PVP Hub has been enforced. 1. You cannot use heal beams 2. you cannot use heat weapons. Now i would really like to think this is just a coincidence but i beg to defer. With heal beams and heat mechanics both fixed in recent patches, why are these rules part of the pvp hub? If the PVP hub is in fact a place where people can learn about pvp and get better, why are there rules that discriminate certain play styles and weapons choices? the answer is simple ...The PVP hub is run by the exact same groups that hated these particular weapon mod choices. With all this being said, there a few of these cmdr's , which their names will not be mentioned out of respect, that are admins and mods of the PVP hub. These particular cmdr's mentioned on several occasions that they would love to see the 13th legion group disbanded. Because of these particular rules a lot of our members are not able to participate cause their builds are based on heat and healing weapons. We should be Free to use whatever type of weapons we feel at Hub and not be discriminated or insulted when doing so. These rules shouldn't be implemented if this PVP HUB is really a place to learn and get you ready for pvp outside of the hub. Stop the Discrimination on weapon choices and let us be free to PVP they way we enjoy. A PVP hub should be a place for anybody and everybody to freely have fun and use what ever they think is best for pvp...even if that includes heat and healing.

Those weapons are banned because the point of the PvP hub is to have fun fights, not win through attrition. Healing beams may work for your group because you can't win a straight up wing fight, but the rest of us can, so we don't need the crutch.

Please stop trying to be relevant. It's sad.
 
Those weapons are banned because the point of the PvP hub is to have fun fights, not win through attrition. Healing beams may work for your group because you can't win a straight up wing fight, but the rest of us can, so we don't need the crutch.

Please stop trying to be relevant. It's sad.

Not as sad as reading that wall of text though... ;)
 
I also wanted to mention something particular about the so called rules. Some people may or may not know i am part of a pvp group known as the Empire's 13th legion. In our PVP journey as the 13th legion we have made a lot of enemies using particular methods to defeat our enemies in combat. Some of these methods include using healing beams, and also heat weapons to counter high heat producing builds with P.A's And Rails. Known PVP groups such as SDC, Adle's Armada, Rsm, nomads etc all use high heat producing builds, and in defense we used heat and heal beams. For months they Continually bashed us with insults and hate because we used Weapons they considered "broken mechanics" to counter their builds, when in fact we were just using what was available in game. That being said, there are two particular rules that the PVP Hub has been enforced. 1. You cannot use heal beams 2. you cannot use heat weapons. Now i would really like to think this is just a coincidence but i beg to defer. With heal beams and heat mechanics both fixed in recent patches, why are these rules part of the pvp hub? If the PVP hub is in fact a place where people can learn about pvp and get better, why are there rules that discriminate certain play styles and weapons choices? the answer is simple ...The PVP hub is run by the exact same groups that hated these particular weapon mod choices. With all this being said, there a few of these cmdr's , which their names will not be mentioned out of respect, that are admins and mods of the PVP hub. These particular cmdr's mentioned on several occasions that they would love to see the 13th legion group disbanded. Because of these particular rules a lot of our members are not able to participate cause their builds are based on heat and healing weapons. We should be Free to use whatever type of weapons we feel at Hub and not be discriminated or insulted when doing so. These rules shouldn't be implemented if this PVP HUB is really a place to learn and get you ready for pvp outside of the hub. Stop the Discrimination on weapon choices and let us be free to PVP they way we enjoy. A PVP hub should be a place for anybody and everybody to freely have fun and use what ever they think is best for pvp...even if that includes heat and healing.

Just a quick correction here as you haven't correctly explained our rules on banned weapons. First of all, heat weapons are not banned in PvP hub as we believe they are balanced after their most recent patch, and a few have used them to great effect. The only weapons that are banned are seeker missiles in small ship combat because of balance, synthesis and healing beams. The reason for the latter two being banned is we want to keep matches somewhat concise and both weapons artificially extend the duration of such fights. People using healing beams means ship health pools are bloated and people need synth to deal with the additional hp. We don't want to make players feel like they are forced to farm materials before every fight. Its worth noting that these are just the default rules and if both teams agree on something different beforehand no one is going to try and stop them, and basic synth is often allowed for niche builds as long as its decided prior to the match.
 
Those weapons are banned because the point of the PvP hub is to have fun fights, not win through attrition. Healing beams may work for your group because you can't win a straight up wing fight, but the rest of us can, so we don't need the crutch.

Please stop trying to be relevant. It's sad.[/QUOI]

its part of the game it not a crutch..
 
I also wanted to mention something particular about the so called rules. Some people may or may not know i am part of a pvp group known as the Empire's 13th legion. In our PVP journey as the 13th legion we have made a lot of enemies using particular methods to defeat our enemies in combat. Some of these methods include using healing beams, and also heat weapons to counter high heat producing builds with P.A's And Rails. Known PVP groups such as SDC, Adle's Armada, Rsm, nomads etc all use high heat producing builds, and in defense we used heat and heal beams. For months they Continually bashed us with insults and hate because we used Weapons they considered "broken mechanics" to counter their builds, when in fact we were just using what was available in game. That being said, there are two particular rules that the PVP Hub has been enforced. 1. You cannot use heal beams 2. you cannot use heat weapons. Now i would really like to think this is just a coincidence but i beg to defer. With heal beams and heat mechanics both fixed in recent patches, why are these rules part of the pvp hub? If the PVP hub is in fact a place where people can learn about pvp and get better, why are there rules that discriminate certain play styles and weapons choices? the answer is simple ...The PVP hub is run by the exact same groups that hated these particular weapon mod choices. With all this being said, there a few of these cmdr's , which their names will not be mentioned out of respect, that are admins and mods of the PVP hub. These particular cmdr's mentioned on several occasions that they would love to see the 13th legion group disbanded. Because of these particular rules a lot of our members are not able to participate cause their builds are based on heat and healing weapons. We should be Free to use whatever type of weapons we feel at Hub and not be discriminated or insulted when doing so. These rules shouldn't be implemented if this PVP HUB is really a place to learn and get you ready for pvp outside of the hub. Stop the Discrimination on weapon choices and let us be free to PVP they way we enjoy. A PVP hub should be a place for anybody and everybody to freely have fun and use what ever they think is best for pvp...even if that includes heat and healing.


In other words : i admit our group is using bugged weapons (heat cannons) or un-balanced weapons (healing beam. still not impacted by PiP) because it is the only way we can hardly compete and i am salty for being trash talked.

Are you still denying we have proven many times those weapons were bugged (operation healies4feelies / spicybois 2) ???

FYI :
- heat weapons are allowed because not bugged anymore since the last patch
- Healing beams are still OP because not affected by PiP (still needs a fix)

Try to counter people using skill instead of bugged loadout for once and git gud.
 
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In other words : i admit our group is using bugged weapons (heat cannons) or un-balanced weapons (healing beam. still not impacted by PiP) because it is the only way we can slightly compete and i am salty for being trash talked.

Are you still denying we have proven many times those weapons were bugged (operation healies4feelies / spicybois 2) ???

FYI :
- heat weapons are allowed because not bugged anymore since the last patch
- Healing beams are still OP because not affected by PiP (still needs a fix)

Try to counter people using skill instead of bugged loadout for once and git gud.

again with wild accustations? what is bugged about my loadout? i dont even use heals, i use premium ammo which is also banned from the hub. You can't get gud if your already the best ;)
 
Those weapons are banned because the point of the PvP hub is to have fun fights, not win through attrition. Healing beams may work for your group because you can't win a straight up wing fight, but the rest of us can, so we don't need the crutch.

Please stop trying to be relevant. It's sad.

im pretty sure there is video of the 13th legion steam rolling the first few teams in the PVP league without heals. so what you say is completely invalid, and full lies. Your always bashing on us cause you die to us.. quit being a baby and play the game to have fun
 
again with wild accustations? what is bugged about my loadout? i dont even use heals, i use premium ammo which is also banned from the hub. You can't get gud if your already the best ;)

I suggest you to actually read twice the PvP Hub rules because it seems you have reading comprehension issues.
I am sure it will help to not being the best of the worst anymore ;)
 
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I also wanted to mention something particular about the so called rules. Some people may or may not know i am part of a pvp group known as the Empire's 13th legion. In our PVP journey as the 13th legion we have made a lot of enemies using particular methods to defeat our enemies in combat. Some of these methods include using healing beams, and also heat weapons to counter high heat producing builds with P.A's And Rails. Known PVP groups such as SDC, Adle's Armada, Rsm, nomads etc all use high heat producing builds, and in defense we used heat and heal beams. For months they Continually bashed us with insults and hate because we used Weapons they considered "broken mechanics" to counter their builds, when in fact we were just using what was available in game. That being said, there are two particular rules that the PVP Hub has been enforced. 1. You cannot use heal beams 2. you cannot use heat weapons. Now i would really like to think this is just a coincidence but i beg to defer. With heal beams and heat mechanics both fixed in recent patches, why are these rules part of the pvp hub? If the PVP hub is in fact a place where people can learn about pvp and get better, why are there rules that discriminate certain play styles and weapons choices? the answer is simple ...The PVP hub is run by the exact same groups that hated these particular weapon mod choices. With all this being said, there a few of these cmdr's , which their names will not be mentioned out of respect, that are admins and mods of the PVP hub. These particular cmdr's mentioned on several occasions that they would love to see the 13th legion group disbanded. Because of these particular rules a lot of our members are not able to participate cause their builds are based on heat and healing weapons. We should be Free to use whatever type of weapons we feel at Hub and not be discriminated or insulted when doing so. These rules shouldn't be implemented if this PVP HUB is really a place to learn and get you ready for pvp outside of the hub. Stop the Discrimination on weapon choices and let us be free to PVP they way we enjoy. A PVP hub should be a place for anybody and everybody to freely have fun and use what ever they think is best for pvp...even if that includes heat and healing.

When a CMDR's avatar and posts are both salty as.
 
I also wanted to mention something particular about the so called rules. Some people may or may not know i am part of a pvp group known as the Empire's 13th legion. In our PVP journey as the 13th legion we have made a lot of enemies using particular methods to defeat our enemies in combat. Some of these methods include using healing beams, and also heat weapons to counter high heat producing builds with P.A's And Rails. Known PVP groups such as SDC, Adle's Armada, Rsm, nomads etc all use high heat producing builds, and in defense we used heat and heal beams. For months they Continually bashed us with insults and hate because we used Weapons they considered "broken mechanics" to counter their builds, when in fact we were just using what was available in game. That being said, there are two particular rules that the PVP Hub has been enforced. 1. You cannot use heal beams 2. you cannot use heat weapons. Now i would really like to think this is just a coincidence but i beg to defer. With heal beams and heat mechanics both fixed in recent patches, why are these rules part of the pvp hub? If the PVP hub is in fact a place where people can learn about pvp and get better, why are there rules that discriminate certain play styles and weapons choices? the answer is simple ...The PVP hub is run by the exact same groups that hated these particular weapon mod choices. With all this being said, there a few of these cmdr's , which their names will not be mentioned out of respect, that are admins and mods of the PVP hub. These particular cmdr's mentioned on several occasions that they would love to see the 13th legion group disbanded. Because of these particular rules a lot of our members are not able to participate cause their builds are based on heat and healing weapons. We should be Free to use whatever type of weapons we feel at Hub and not be discriminated or insulted when doing so. These rules shouldn't be implemented if this PVP HUB is really a place to learn and get you ready for pvp outside of the hub. Stop the Discrimination on weapon choices and let us be free to PVP they way we enjoy. A PVP hub should be a place for anybody and everybody to freely have fun and use what ever they think is best for pvp...even if that includes heat and healing.

You're such an attention needing nonner, good grief man.
 
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