I also wanted to mention something particular about the so called rules. Some people may or may not know i am part of a pvp group known as the Empire's 13th legion. In our PVP journey as the 13th legion we have made a lot of enemies using particular methods to defeat our enemies in combat. Some of these methods include using healing beams, and also heat weapons to counter high heat producing builds with P.A's And Rails. Known PVP groups such as SDC, Adle's Armada, Rsm, nomads etc all use high heat producing builds, and in defense we used heat and heal beams. For months they Continually bashed us with insults and hate because we used Weapons they considered "broken mechanics" to counter their builds, when in fact we were just using what was available in game. That being said, there are two particular rules that the PVP Hub has been enforced. 1. You cannot use heal beams 2. you cannot use heat weapons. Now i would really like to think this is just a coincidence but i beg to defer. With heal beams and heat mechanics both fixed in recent patches, why are these rules part of the pvp hub? If the PVP hub is in fact a place where people can learn about pvp and get better, why are there rules that discriminate certain play styles and weapons choices? the answer is simple ...The PVP hub is run by the exact same groups that hated these particular weapon mod choices. With all this being said, there a few of these cmdr's , which their names will not be mentioned out of respect, that are admins and mods of the PVP hub. These particular cmdr's mentioned on several occasions that they would love to see the 13th legion group disbanded. Because of these particular rules a lot of our members are not able to participate cause their builds are based on heat and healing weapons. We should be Free to use whatever type of weapons we feel at Hub and not be discriminated or insulted when doing so. These rules shouldn't be implemented if this PVP HUB is really a place to learn and get you ready for pvp outside of the hub. Stop the Discrimination on weapon choices and let us be free to PVP they way we enjoy. A PVP hub should be a place for anybody and everybody to freely have fun and use what ever they think is best for pvp...even if that includes heat and healing.