My open letter to Fdev

[Ian Skippy]

They extended out a long time ago, for some reason they've not updated their various bits of propaganda. But as someone who knew and interacted with them and their leadership regularly, I can assure you what I stated (and also Nightshady's comments) are correct.
Regarding why its not cool to attack the Imperium over this, let's put it this way: I don't think advocating going after a group which is unconnected in some sort of attempt to retaliate at the legion is going to be either beneficial or provide a suitable remedy. All your going to do is annoy a bunch of players who aren't connected to this, and have the same viewpoints as you.

Alright, I'll take your word for it. I still think it'd be wise if that would be made a bit more clearer by the Imperium, but thats ofcourse not my concern.

 

[Dave1235]

Explaining how the game mechanics have been created by FD is not "going against" people.

Lets face facts. Even if they did remove the solo/group modes (which will never happen), the P2P instancing the game has been built on would effectively prevent blockading. There would always be players in another instance working against you that you could do nothing about.
The global/group PvP in this game is about out pacing your opponents with PvE tasks. It's as simple as that.

Even a Luddite like myself understands
Solo=block all players
Group=block anyone not on a list
Open=allow all players
Bad ping. Dodgy isp or wife streaming a film while kids are on utube or having to tether to a mobile= solo
Setting up your router following the security bit about turn off upnp=solo
And thats why open is the only mode they could ever remove leave open and circumstances can make it solo.

 

[Nightshady]

There is no "official" entity, as far as I know, that represents the Empire, or the Federation or the Alliance for that matter. So, anybody is free to declare whatever they want. It's the player base that ultimately decides whether someone has legitimacy or not. Pretending his group can't represent the Empire is therefore, in my opinion, a moot point.

If nobody decides to do something in the name of a super power, who will? Blaze your own trail... and lets the people decides. If his group is irrelevant, it will be forgotten and eventually disappear.

^^ My point exactly. Well said CMDR. o7

 

[Dave1235]

You know, it might be fun if 13th legion or Athena secretly started trying to obliterate the factions of permit locked systems like Jotun, Sirius, or Alioth in order to "PVP" with the people hiding in Solo/Private.

It'd be a start.

Hint hint, wink wink.

Good luck getting a permit then.

I heard the sirius one is the quickest to get if they are in a rush to do something before fd just ban them and wait for a dozen angry parents complaining.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Only if meta-alloys are really that important.
Only if there are no other sources of meta-alloys.
Only if the Empire could actually keep a military presence in that region - highly doubtful.
Only if the Empire thinks that an open war would be something they can afford.

What if the Empire is quite happy with the typical federal display of power in a region of space that is far away from the core Empire space? A region that might be the starting point of a military confrontation with an unknown enemy of unknown power?

Imperial players usually are to blind in their desire to fight the Federation to see other options and possibilities. Only capable to hit everything that sounds like Federation.

You want to fight the Federation, too bad that the imperial players decided to destroy Emperor's Dawn. Those where the guys who wanted war and expansion. That was the faction that could have made the Empire "great" again.

And dont forget INRA. But hey, lets not think too much. "lol yolo pewpew"=good, so if FD does something else they clearly are stupid.

 

[CMDR Kantos Kan]

Only if meta-alloys are really that important.
Only if there are no other sources of meta-alloys.
Only if the Empire could actually keep a military presence in that region - highly doubtful.
Only if the Empire thinks that an open war would be something they can afford.

What if the Empire is quite happy with the typical federal display of power in a region of space that is far away from the core Empire space? A region that might be the starting point of a military confrontation with an unknown enemy of unknown power?

Imperial players usually are to blind in their desire to fight the Federation to see other options and possibilities. Only capable to hit everything that sounds like Federation.

You want to fight the Federation, too bad that the imperial players decided to destroy Emperor's Dawn. Those where the guys who wanted war and expansion. That was the faction that could have made the Empire "great" again.

I don't want to fight everything that has "Federation" stamped on it. I just personally think that there should have been a way to oppose this expansion, that's all. Frontier created 3 super powers, after all. I'm guessing that their purpose was to create some belligerence or occasional friction in the game. And I'm not suggesting an all-out war either. Just a way to oppose it. Even if Frontier's design is to let the Federation takes over that system, at least give us some ways to oppose it.

And I don't remember there was any large confrontation since the game was released. The only interaction from Frontier is through some articles in Galnet

Otherwise, you see one Majestic here, and one Farragut there. Nothing else. So, let's the players decide but give us ways to decide.

 

[Comrade Napoleon]

Cmdr's
Having read the last few pages it is obvious that one of The Pilots Federations members have become completely disillusional and hovers between raving lunacy and short glimpses of sense.
I think it is in all's interest that his pilots license is revoked, at least until he makes sense again.
On behalf of all I shall submit such an application

Yours Faithfully

Cmdr Napoleon

3 Secretary in Pilots Federation

 

[Dave1235]

Funny....you try to taunt SDC by showing how broken the system is (You flip their system, and hide in a place where they cant fight against you). Coward.

Effectively:
"Hey man, how do you like how bad we messed up your station while wearing our cloaks of invulnerability. We're such badasses."


Too bad FD didn't use their magic wands in that case.

Coward because they dont want to play with you IN A GAME.
Tell us about your medals hero i cant wait pmsl

 

[Nightshady]

I don't get on the forums much, so one of my wise friends was telling me about it and had this to say: "The official forums, everyone. Bask in its cancer." Wow, he was so right.

Anyway... as amusing as this has been, I'm going to sum things up and then let y'all get back to talking about how irrelevant myself and the 13th Legion are.

I am the leader of the 13th Legion, the player Imperial Military. We conducted operations in the Segovan system starting last Thursday, initiating a total system blockade to oppose the expansion of the Federation. This operation was designed by myself and my generals, whom were all in agreement with the battle plan. Our operations were conducted in every field of battle for which we held access. This included a private group that we were long-standing members of. We feel that private groups and Solo should not contribute towards CG's, as it is unfair in that we cannot oppose it; that was our reasoning for conducting operations there in concordance with power play and the RP of our group. We have no remorse for our actions, for although you can think of us as 'bad guys', we did not violate the EULA in any form or fashion. We do not lose sleep over people losing their ships, especially when they are aiding our enemies. We succeeded in completely shutting down the CG by casuing a system Lockdown with the help of the Athena Task Force. The closing of the commodities market was lifted by FD, and we are opposed to this action as well, since it finally gave us a method to stop a CG across open/private/solo. As the Imperial military, we will continue to pursue operations against the Federation and enemies of the Empire in concordance with power play, our RoE, and our RP. Our group gives us the opportunity to be a hero and a villain, depending on perspective, and we appreciate that. We will continue our efforts to impact the storyline of the game as much as we can in concordance with our RP and RoE.

Fly safe CMDR's. There is only Empire.

CMDR Nightshady
Lord Commander, 13th Legion Imperial combat wing

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

I don't get on the forums much, so one of my wise friends was telling me about it and had this to say: "The official forums, everyone. Bask in its cancer." Wow, he was so right.

Anyway... as amusing as this has been, I'm going to sum things up and then let y'all get back to talking about how irrelevant myself and the 13th Legion are.

I am the leader of the 13th Legion, the player Imperial Military. We conducted operations in the Segovan system starting last Thursday, initiating a total system blockade to oppose the expansion of the Federation. This operation was designed by myself and my generals, whom were all in agreement with the battle plan. Our operations were conducted in every field of battle for which we held access. This included a private group that we were long-standing members of. We feel that private groups and Solo should not contribute towards CG's, as it is unfair in that we cannot oppose it; that was our reasoning for conducting operations there in concordance with power play and the RP of our group. We have no remorse for our actions, for although you can think of us as 'bad guys', we did not violate the EULA in any form or fashion. We do not lose sleep over people losing their ships, especially when they are aiding our enemies. We succeeded in completely shutting down the CG by casuing a system Lockdown with the help of the Athena Task Force. The closing of the commodities market was lifted by FD, and we are opposed to this action as well, since it finally gave us a method to stop a CG across open/private/solo. As the Imperial military, we will continue to pursue operations against the Federation and enemies of the Empire in concordance with power play, our RoE, and our RP. Our group gives us the opportunity to be a hero and a villain, depending on perspective, and we appreciate that. We will continue our efforts to impact the storyline of the game as much as we can in concordance with our RP and RoE.

Fly safe CMDR's. There is only Empire.

CMDR Nightshady
Lord Commander, 13th Legion Imperial combat wing

Yeah, you can go and I won't care...along with a great many others.

 

[Icebergdx]

Actually there is.

That entity is called Frontier Developments. And as long as FDev doesn't accept the 13th as player military of the empire, they're simply not the player military of the empire. And there are player groups recognized as entities in the lore. Canonn for example.

There's a reason why the story is only playerdriven on certain points of decision. Mainly because the galaxy would burn after three days if it were completely playerdriven.

3 DAYS with people like the self proclaimed leader of the Imperial military and his screwy stooges? If they had their way, try 3 hours on a late Saturday night... And while you are making good points Becks, all it is doing is feeding the trolls of the 13th playpen.

 

[Snooch leBooch]

I don't get on the forums much, so one of my wise friends was telling me about it and had this to say: "The official forums, everyone. Bask in its cancer." Wow, he was so right.

Anyway... as amusing as this has been, I'm going to sum things up and then let y'all get back to talking about how irrelevant myself and the 13th Legion are.

I am the leader of the 13th Legion, the player Imperial Military. We conducted operations in the Segovan system starting last Thursday, initiating a total system blockade to oppose the expansion of the Federation. This operation was designed by myself and my generals, whom were all in agreement with the battle plan. Our operations were conducted in every field of battle for which we held access. This included a private group that we were long-standing members of. We feel that private groups and Solo should not contribute towards CG's, as it is unfair in that we cannot oppose it; that was our reasoning for conducting operations there in concordance with power play and the RP of our group. We have no remorse for our actions, for although you can think of us as 'bad guys', we did not violate the EULA in any form or fashion. We do not lose sleep over people losing their ships, especially when they are aiding our enemies. We succeeded in completely shutting down the CG by casuing a system Lockdown with the help of the Athena Task Force. The closing of the commodities market was lifted by FD, and we are opposed to this action as well, since it finally gave us a method to stop a CG across open/private/solo. As the Imperial military, we will continue to pursue operations against the Federation and enemies of the Empire in concordance with power play, our RoE, and our RP. Our group gives us the opportunity to be a hero and a villain, depending on perspective, and we appreciate that. We will continue our efforts to impact the storyline of the game as much as we can in concordance with our RP and RoE.

Fly safe CMDR's. There is only Empire.

CMDR Nightshady
Lord Commander, 13th Legion Imperial combat wing

Yep, that's how they all leave. Failing to save some dignity on a stunt that was based on juvenile ignorance and a warped take on reality. True, tall order anyway. AND also trying to save some face - rather than showing some backbone, stand up for past mistakes, and being the grown up - nah, still mindbogglingly trying to glorify childish actions- yeah that's a hard mission - i can sympathize.
All the best to you Sir - the ruling applies, "could have been friends if only he didn't leave his head at home"

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Cmdr's
Having read the last few pages it is obvious that one of The Pilots Federations members have become completely disillusional and hovers between raving lunacy and short glimpses of sense.

In my defence, I am an explorer.

 

[Goose4291]

And dont forget INRA. But hey, lets not think too much. "lol yolo pewpew"=good, so if FD does something else they clearly are stupid.

slightly off topic, but after that streaming announcement, I wouldn't guarantee even the existence of INRA As of now sadly.

 

[Moritz Norman]

slightly off topic, but after that streaming announcement, I wouldn't guarantee even the existence of INRA As of now sadly.

What announcement? Or link and I'll read

 

[Goose4291]

What announcement? Or link and I'll read

I'll dig it out later.

But the tl/dr is that Michael Brookes said that a lot of the lore from the prior games isn't carrying over.

 

[Dave1235]

i think you need to get on with the times lad
http://store.steampowered.com/app/359320
http://puu.sh/pZcgG/b4a0cebb63.png
it WAS and IS advertised as an MMO and everyone in Fdev will tell you that Elite is indeed a MMO game

I am sure single player is at the top for a reason. I also note there is no disclaimer stating solo is the wrong way to play and worth less nor stating any mode is right.
What does mmo mean to you? Does ed not meet the definition ? Massive multiplayer online ? Which bit ?

 

[PavelKCZ]

I don't get on the forums much, so one of my wise friends was telling me about it and had this to say: "The official forums, everyone. Bask in its cancer." Wow, he was so right.

Anyway... as amusing as this has been, I'm going to sum things up and then let y'all get back to talking about how irrelevant myself and the 13th Legion are.

I am the leader of the 13th Legion, the player Imperial Military. We conducted operations in the Segovan system starting last Thursday, initiating a total system blockade to oppose the expansion of the Federation. This operation was designed by myself and my generals, whom were all in agreement with the battle plan. Our operations were conducted in every field of battle for which we held access. This included a private group that we were long-standing members of. We feel that private groups and Solo should not contribute towards CG's, as it is unfair in that we cannot oppose it; that was our reasoning for conducting operations there in concordance with power play and the RP of our group. We have no remorse for our actions, for although you can think of us as 'bad guys', we did not violate the EULA in any form or fashion. We do not lose sleep over people losing their ships, especially when they are aiding our enemies. We succeeded in completely shutting down the CG by casuing a system Lockdown with the help of the Athena Task Force. The closing of the commodities market was lifted by FD, and we are opposed to this action as well, since it finally gave us a method to stop a CG across open/private/solo. As the Imperial military, we will continue to pursue operations against the Federation and enemies of the Empire in concordance with power play, our RoE, and our RP. Our group gives us the opportunity to be a hero and a villain, depending on perspective, and we appreciate that. We will continue our efforts to impact the storyline of the game as much as we can in concordance with our RP and RoE.

Fly safe CMDR's. There is only Empire.

CMDR Nightshady
Lord Commander, 13th Legion Imperial combat wing

Well, it is a pitty I do not have english subtitles for this, but anyway. Maybe some Czech speaking players will have a good fun...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p2Phy0OBVI

 

[VR Murgle]

Why do the words delusions of grandure come to mind when I ready the posts of a certain individual.

Anyway I know who I won't be doing missions for in Cubeo...

 

[Jpotter]

Yep, that's how they all leave. Failing to save some dignity on a stunt that was based on juvenile ignorance and a warped take on reality. True, tall order anyway. AND also trying to save some face - rather than showing some backbone, stand up for past mistakes, and being the grown up - nah, still mindbogglingly trying to glorify childish actions- yeah that's a hard mission - i can sympathize.
All the best to you Sir - the ruling applies, "could have been friends if only he didn't leave his head at home"

Dignity? Juvenile? Mistakes? You do know this is a game right it's all juvenile, there are no mistakes, and dignity went out the window the moment you made a character (dignity in the game world is about as real as this cheesecake here).

What you all fail to understand is every post about being upset or telling the 13th to get lost is just fodder for future actions.