Your last 7 words spell out the issue. New (ish) pilots that have yet to make the grade need a way to survive, even experienced pilots use it, there is no shame. No possible affront that can be given by using reverski. Except for those who cannot find a way to overcome it. If you ain't good enough to overcome such a simple manoeuvre just be gentlemanly enough to admit it and move on.
Nerf Reverski
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Your last 7 words spell out the issue. New (ish) pilots that have yet to make the grade need a way to survive, even experienced pilots use it, there is no shame. No possible affront that can be given by using reverski. Except for those who cannot find a way to overcome it. If you ain't good enough to overcome such a simple manoeuvre just be gentlemanly enough to admit it and move on.
I guess FDev thought FdL jockeys might be sad if they couldn't reverse as fast as the pilots of better designed ships.
Powderpanic
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Yes its best to ignore issues and cater for the casuals! That's how truely wonderful gameplay evolves.
Weirdly its the good pilots who agree on how much of skill crutch reverski is. Your little final attempt at an insult, Cute attempt btw.. Makes all the difference
Will we be seeing any of you reverski heros in Open?
Powderpanic
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Now, imagine reading about changing the flight model for everyone just because the few in the pewpew gang have found a bottleneck they can't get around. For those flying our ships without combat involved I very much like the thrust as it is, since I'm using FA Off all the time all the non-sense about reversky makes me hate more the pvp selfness. Just my opinion.
Yes its best to ignore issues and cater for the casuals! That's how truely wonderful gameplay evolves.
Weirdly its the good pilots who agree on how much of skill crutch reverski is. Your little final attempt at an insult, Cute attempt btw.. Makes all the difference
Will we be seeing any of you reverski heros in Open?
Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
You will see them in open, often. Such a comment throws doubt on your on experience of the open environment. Big talk, little hands? ponder on, I bid you goodnight. See you in the black.
Powderpanic
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Says this guy.....
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...rivate-to-open-My-thoughts-(an-unbiased-view)
Open since launch
Tiny hands makes my mouse look huge btw!
Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
Yes its best to ignore issues and cater for the casuals! That's how truely wonderful gameplay evolves.
Weirdly its the good pilots who agree on how much of skill crutch reverski is. Your little final attempt at an insult, Cute attempt btw.. Makes all the difference
Will we be seeing any of you reverski heros in Open?
Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
"If it's a seal we can club it."
- Arnold Schwarzenegger, Predator.
Powderpanic
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Run, get to the Cutter!
- Arnold Schwarzenegger, Predator.
Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
What a hero. Just because you played with it a long time doesn't make it bigger.
As you can see by the thread you quoted, I'm a supporter of open and have played open almost exclusively since May 2017. No one has killed me, so far. One day I'll get mullered by some plasma spawning devil but hopefully I'll be in full reverse spewing death pixels back at them.....Book cover judge ye not.
Putting aside the Nerf/Don't Nerf "Reverski" argument for a moment, and faced with your FDL (or equivalent) flying backwards at 410 m/s, is there any way at present to outmaneuver, outwit or otherwise force your "Reverski-ing" opponent out of reverse? Or is it, as I have so far gathered from this thread and from the recent Nightshady PVP thread, that the moment your opponent (FDL or otherwise) begins flying in reverse the fight devolves into long-range DPS facetanking?
Completely devolves. Sometimes I even put an asteroid between me and the offender and eat some townhouse with cheese-wiz and wait them out, just so they feel dumb.
It all depends on the relative speed of the ships in question. The ship with more DPS, and/or Shields will profit more from the Backwards tactic. While the faster ship, if there is enough of a speed difference, can dictate it's use. A ship fast enough to overtake a Backie, before it's mauled, can end such a fight by getting beyond the Backside. Too small of a speed advantage leaves the chaser in the firing arc too long. I have not heard of an FdL really needing to resort to Backish behavior. They have an abundance of Fire Power, Agility, and Speed. Going backwards is for slow ships with tons of shields, and poor agility, as far as I can see.
I feel the same about the FDL, which is why I find it such an affront to see them doing said maneuver. Still don't think we need to nerf anything though, only a minor annoyance.
People do what they can. If you go around petitioning for nerfs all of the time, that exactly what you'll get. A homogenized playing field. There are examples, from time to time, of mechanics that need a nerf, the Heat stuff from 2.x (which ever exact release that was), but a maneuver that any ship can employ, with differing degrees of success based on the ships stats, isn't high on my list for fixing. It's much more useful as a topic for salt extraction, than it is in combat. If you ask me.
Hey now, salt is an important export of these forums, and one that keeps Frontier in the black (catch the double meaning? eh?). Can't go insulting all these unpaid salt miners or they might start catching on... then we will have to buy more ship kits to compensate.
This thread is nothing but a thinly veiled whine-fest to get the big ships nerfed more than they already are.
You misunderstand me. I say the Backsie's worth in Salt is all the more reason to leave it in. The space economy doesn't need to be upset right now. Steady the course, and all of that.
You don't exactly need 4 years just to learn FAOFF, do you? You don't exactly need to be Stephen Hawking, do you? The game has been out for longer than 4 weeks. Does the statement make more sense now?
In other news, I've also beaten level 1-1 in super mario bros. And I know how to rotate the I-block in Tetris to clear 4 lines at once. Can you imagine? Even more impressive than "move the joystick left after moving it right to cancel the motion"
Worship me.