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So the earning potential within the game, is capped at 400ARX.

So what can you buy for 400ARX, or under?

Decals, sun glasses and that is about it.

So basically, it is another, poorly designed money sink, for the players.

Meh.
Maybe save up a few week's worth for something you do want? Just a thought.
 
Maybe save up a few week's worth for something you do want? Just a thought.
Which is where the whole things, falls apart.

For me. I would have to think about saving for Xmass 2020.

For the average teenager. Saving is not in the vocabulary, of your average 'i want it now, credit fuelled' teenager.
 
I'm sure this has been done before (and probably proved nothing) but I was curious so I just did some sums based on what I paid for certain cosmetics pre-ARX and what they'd cost me now (AFTER prices are a range using conversions based on £24.99 ARX pack and £2.99 ARX pack).

Nav Beacon bobblehead (BEFORE: £3, AFTER £2.37 - £2.89)
Celeste COVAS (BEFORE: £5, AFTER £4.34 - £5.29)
Asp Raider ship kit (BEFORE: £8, AFTER £6.62 - £8.08)
Asp White Apollo paint (BEFORE: £1.50, AFTER £0.89 - £1.08)

I picked out these examples by going through my past orders and selecting, pretty much at random, items which I was able to find in the store now. From where I'm sitting it looks as if Frontier have tried pretty damn hard (harder than many on these forums deserve I would say) to keep prices the same or slightly cheaper than they were before.

And then on top of that they're also giving us free ARX just for playing the game so that three or four times a year even those who can't afford to buy an ARX pack can still pick up something from the store.

As for the why of ARX:
a) It gets rid of the per-transaction costs imposed on Frontier by credit card companies which previously meant the purchasing of very low cost items (e.g. an individual paintjob) be barely cost effective (hence why they used to favour selling paint packs rather than individual items).
b) It makes it easier and safer to bring the store inside the game since none of that code has to deal with real-world credit transactions.
c) It brings PC inline with the console model which makes life a lot simpler for Frontier.
d) It allows Frontier to give us cosmetic item earning potential within the game.
 
As for the why of ARX:
a) It gets rid of the per-transaction costs imposed on Frontier by credit card companies which previously meant the purchasing of very low cost items (e.g. an individual paintjob) be barely cost effective (hence why they used to favour selling paint packs rather than individual items).
b) It makes it easier and safer to bring the store inside the game since none of that code has to deal with real-world credit transactions.
c) It brings PC inline with the console model which makes life a lot simpler for Frontier.
d) It allows Frontier to give us cosmetic item earning potential within the game.
Right. You see, the player/customer is in the spotlight of Frontiers efforts.
 
Right. You see, the player/customer is in the spotlight of Frontiers efforts.
Can't decide if that's sarcasm but to be clear: a) benefits the player (we can now buy individual items rather than having to buy whole packs), b) benefits the player (being able to buy cosmetics directly in-game without having to jump out to a website and start rummaging around for my credit card), c) doesn't bother me but perhaps console players feel less marginalised?, d) benefits the player.
 
I'm sure this has been done before (and probably proved nothing) but I was curious so I just did some sums based on what I paid for certain cosmetics pre-ARX and what they'd cost me now (AFTER prices are a range using conversions based on £24.99 ARX pack and £2.99 ARX pack).

Nav Beacon bobblehead (BEFORE: £3, AFTER £2.37 - £2.89)
Celeste COVAS (BEFORE: £5, AFTER £4.34 - £5.29)
Asp Raider ship kit (BEFORE: £8, AFTER £6.62 - £8.08)
Asp White Apollo paint (BEFORE: £1.50, AFTER £0.89 - £1.08)

I picked out these examples by going through my past orders and selecting, pretty much at random, items which I was able to find in the store now. From where I'm sitting it looks as if Frontier have tried pretty damn hard (harder than many on these forums deserve I would say) to keep prices the same or slightly cheaper than they were before.

And then on top of that they're also giving us free ARX just for playing the game so that three or four times a year even those who can't afford to buy an ARX pack can still pick up something from the store.

As for the why of ARX:
a) It gets rid of the per-transaction costs imposed on Frontier by credit card companies which previously meant the purchasing of very low cost items (e.g. an individual paintjob) be barely cost effective (hence why they used to favour selling paint packs rather than individual items).
b) It makes it easier and safer to bring the store inside the game since none of that code has to deal with real-world credit transactions.
c) It brings PC inline with the console model which makes life a lot simpler for Frontier.
d) It allows Frontier to give us cosmetic item earning potential within the game.
My past experiences do not validate that
Before 3.5 i was able to pay £3.3 (iirc that was the price) for a 300 Frontier Points pack (6000 arx after conversion). With those FP i was able to get a nicely paint pack. For example Salvage (All paint packs were 300 Frontier points prior to 3.5)
Now, if i want to buy the same 6 salvage paints, i have to pay 13320 Arx - that is £2.99+£4.99

Yes, the new system is fabulous if all i need is a single paint.
But if i have 2-3 ships and i want different salvage paints for them, based to the role/mission, well...
 
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My past experiences do not validate that
Before 3.5 i was able to pay £3.3 (iirc that was the price) for a 300 Frontier Points pack (6000 arx after conversion). With those FP i was able to get a nicely paint pack. For example Salvage (All paint packs were 300 Frontier points prior to 3.5)
Now, if i want to buy the same 6 salvage paints, i have to pay 13320 Arx - that is £2.99+£4.99

Yes, the new system is fabulous if all i need is a single paint.
But if i have 2-3 ships and i want different savage paints for them, based to the role/mission, well...
Yup OK - looks like the old packs were a bit of a bargain (i.e. 6 paintjobs for the price of 3 or 4). I guess the issue here is simply that packs aren't currently available (as far as I can see - I thought I'd seen them but maybe I imagined it?). Unsurprisingly, buying 6 individual paint packs costs more than buying a single pack with all six in it so those people like yourself who liked having the entire pack are currently at a disadvantage. That's probably a good question for Frontier - @Will Flanagan any word on whether paint packs (e.g. such as the "tactical" pack containing all six colour variants) will be making a return any time soon?
 
Yup OK - looks like the old packs were a bit of a bargain (i.e. 6 paintjobs for the price of 3 or 4). I guess the issue here is simply that packs aren't currently available (as far as I can see - I thought I'd seen them but maybe I imagined it?). Unsurprisingly, buying 6 individual paint packs costs more than buying a single pack with all six in it so those people like yourself who liked having the entire pack are currently at a disadvantage. That's probably a good question for Frontier - @Will Flanagan any word on whether paint packs (e.g. such as the "tactical" pack containing all six colour variants) will be making a return any time soon?
Hi Alec and others who've been asking or wondering this!

Just wanted to confirm that there are no plans to re-introduce Paint Job packs at the current time.
Turner comes in from left field, it's a perfect cross! The goal is there for the taking and ...



Noooooooooooo! Flanagan has skied it!
 
Yeah but how many of those skins did you buy from those packs. I know I bought several of those skin packs just for a single skin that was in it. I now have the A-Team Hauler skin without having to buy the rest of those Hauler Skins.
 
Turner comes in from left field, it's a perfect cross! The goal is there for the taking and ...



Noooooooooooo! Flanagan has skied it!
Well, as i posted in my own thread, while it is not the answer i wanted, it is still an answer
Hopefully the plans might change sometime.

Till then, everyone get the C3 OH paint pack. Nice savings there and it is the only paint pack in game currently
 
Hi Alec and others who've been asking or wondering this!

Just wanted to confirm that there are no plans to re-introduce Paint Job packs at the current time.

Which is actively betraying customers. But hey - when I read the forums FD has recruited enough white knights now.
 
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