New Regions – Why not use the ones already established by the exploration community?

I agree with you Baroness, the in game names could be improved upon to align more with what the GMP has done. That said though, I still feel that even the questionable names in the 3.3 beta are still better than numbered regions. It's a compromise between the two but I'd still take that over what they started with.

I still wonder why Frontier didn't stay more true to the GMP names though? Seems like it would have been easier to just use the GMP names than come up with their own? Unless they had reasons which we aren't privy to.

Maybe if we are lucky Frontier will tweak them a bit before release to make them even better.
 
@ Baroness Galaxy: Fully implementing the GMP wasn't a realistic option, due to names like Wagar's Reach, Anthor Patch, and so on. The new names have some questionable ones, but the GMP names have just as many. As for including the GMP map as an overlay in the game: it would be a nice sentiment to them, but I can see why Frontier wouldn't want to add an overlay to the galaxy map that would have no functional use for any game mechanic.
Mind you, people can and probably will still use some of the GMP names, especially when they want to relate some place that doesn't entirely correspond to a galactic region. Although... I'm not sure there'll be any. The region names don't always sync up entirely with the geography of the galaxy, that's true, but for the most part, there has been little practical need to use names for many places. After all, they rarely saw any traffic, and weren't special enough to merit a specific mention. (I'm not even sure why FD went with Hawking's Gap originally, when the abandoned settlements weren't even in the gap proper.)

If as you said "everyone is respected in the end", then you'd have to include all the different communities in naming regions, not just those on the GMP team and the English (mostly PC) official forums. As it stands, the GMP team does not stand for the exploration community - no single subcommunity does - so if Frontier were to use their names exclusively, it would have meant excluding the majority.
At the end of it all though, we've long known that unfortunately, players rarely ever get to name anything, Frontier reserves the right to do that for themselves.

Oh, and the Norma Arm isn't a GMP name, it's a real one. Qohen's map that you linked erroneously attributes some names to the GMP, like the Formidine Rift and some real arm names. On the other hand, it doesn't mark Hawking's Gap as a GMP team name.

Also, no offense, but what the surface prospectors produced wasn't fan lore, but data. It was a good thing that surface materials were made accessible to all, as opposed to having no idea what you might get until you shot a lot of rocks. Shouldn't have been thus in the first place, but well, that was hardly the only game design error that FD made.
 
People put a lot of effort into the fan-made galaxy map, but it shouldn't be a surprise that Frontier would change things. No imaginary names nor names of people should be used. It should be realistic astronomy names. Most of the new names sound cool. The current galaxy map in the beta probably won't change.

The GMP team is very fond of this third proposal about an additional map layer that can be toggled on and off. We think this would be a good solution that might well be within the realm of the possible while still allowing the in-game inclusion of the regions established by the exploration community.

This is a bad idea, because an additional layer with more names is too confusing. There are already more than enough region names. People have a hard time to memorize every name.
 
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People put a lot of effort into the fan-made galaxy map, but it shouldn't be a surprise that Frontier would change things. No imaginary names nor names of people should be used. It should be realistic astronomy names. Most of the new names sound cool. The current galaxy map in the beta probably won't change.



This is a bad idea, because an additional layer with more names is too confusing. There are already more than enough region names. People have a hard time to memorize every name.

When we suggested this idea there were no FD region names - only numbers.
 
There are already more than enough region names. People have a hard time to memorize every name.

That makes it a lot more like how cartography works in the real world though. I kinda like that :)

(I think my sweet spot is that the maps have a level of details where I can memorize the grand sweeps, but if we're going to drill down into an area, I'll need to break out the charts)
 
@ Baroness Galaxy: Fully implementing the GMP wasn't a realistic option, due to names like Wagar's Reach, Anthor Patch, and so on. The new names have some questionable ones, but the GMP names have just as many. As for including the GMP map as an overlay in the game: it would be a nice sentiment to them, but I can see why Frontier wouldn't want to add an overlay to the galaxy map that would have no functional use for any game mechanic.
Mind you, people can and probably will still use some of the GMP names, especially when they want to relate some place that doesn't entirely correspond to a galactic region. Although... I'm not sure there'll be any. The region names don't always sync up entirely with the geography of the galaxy, that's true, but for the most part, there has been little practical need to use names for many places. After all, they rarely saw any traffic, and weren't special enough to merit a specific mention. (I'm not even sure why FD went with Hawking's Gap originally, when the abandoned settlements weren't even in the gap proper.)

If as you said "everyone is respected in the end", then you'd have to include all the different communities in naming regions, not just those on the GMP team and the English (mostly PC) official forums. As it stands, the GMP team does not stand for the exploration community - no single subcommunity does - so if Frontier were to use their names exclusively, it would have meant excluding the majority.
At the end of it all though, we've long known that unfortunately, players rarely ever get to name anything, Frontier reserves the right to do that for themselves.

Oh, and the Norma Arm isn't a GMP name, it's a real one. Qohen's map that you linked erroneously attributes some names to the GMP, like the Formidine Rift and some real arm names. On the other hand, it doesn't mark Hawking's Gap as a GMP team name.

Also, no offense, but what the surface prospectors produced wasn't fan lore, but data. It was a good thing that surface materials were made accessible to all, as opposed to having no idea what you might get until you shot a lot of rocks. Shouldn't have been thus in the first place, but well, that was hardly the only game design error that FD made.

We agree on something at last. I think FDev have done pretty well with the names. There could be a few that could be better, but on the whole it's much better then numbers.

I think anyone complaining about it excessively is being a bit pedantic to be honest.
 
FDEV should definitely add the Galactic Mapping Project's regions to the game, after all, this third-party has done alot for the community, and has done things that *should* have been in-game in the first place, such as a community map showing systems that have been explored.
 
FDEV should definitely add the Galactic Mapping Project's regions to the game, after all, this third-party has done alot for the community, and has done things that *should* have been in-game in the first place, such as a community map showing systems that have been explored.

An easy mode for explorers?
 
You would think that in the 3300s starmap data would be shared among different factions, people, etc. And regional data could be bought. Much like buying a map or gps in today's day and age.
 
Part of the issue here, along with the SEPP thing a while back, is that sometimes FD just jackboot over others long hard and good work, which just makes it frustrating for those involved.
 
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