Oculus Quest 2 for Elite Dangerous

DaveB · Oct 18, 2020

TorTorden said:
@DaveB
...your brain will respond to the motion and try to keep your legs balanced, something that doesn't work cause your actually not in a moving ship.

Adding this, because I forgot to say it in my last reply and editing this late just doesn't feel right...

I'm an old sailor. I know all about how you need to train the brain to treat input from the eyes and from the balance centers as separate data streams, not an integrated whole. It always takes a day or two on board to remind it of that and "get your sea legs back" and on the occasions when a bit of Harry Roughers showed up sooner than I completed the process the fishies had a few nice breakfasts on what had been my breakfast a few hours before. That's what the lee rail is for.

ED hasn't even come close to hitting my motion sickness threshold yet but I'm aware it could so I'm spending a little time each day in the simulated zero-g of the Mission:ISS app to make sure I become - and stay - properly acclimated to VR and can stand up in a "moving environment" without either falling over or getting nauseous. That's a much more challenging environment in terms of conflicting inputs to the brain than standing on your feet while your ship is maneuvering in ED

Paso · Oct 19, 2020

Kemo said:
cool... be great to know how you get on.

What settings did you change on the Hub3 router?

First I made sure to separate the 2.4 and 5ghz frequencies. Then I only enabled AC mode for the 5ghz.
Also manually pick channel 44 for the 80mhz. This way you're not relying on the router moving you to another channel randomly.

Also, follow this

https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/jdo25t

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/jdo25t/virtual_desktop_some_suggested_troubleshooting/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Also VD works with steam vr only. So when ingame make sure your render resolution is set to 100%.
Using VD graphic quality (low, medium, high) affects resolution.

VR Graphics Quality - Render Resolution per eye

Low: 1728x1824
Medium: 2016x2112
High: 2496x2592.

I've been using high, but my pc is kinda struggling to keep 72hz in stations and on planets. It's basically SS, done through VD.
I feel the 3080 calling to me

varonica · Oct 20, 2020

Arioch said:
Any Oculus related bannings will no doubt be widely reported in the VR press as well as heavily featured on these forums (especially if, as you suggested, it’s one CMDR taking exception to another), so I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see.

True, right now we only have opinions, but I shan't be buying anything that requires a login to anywhere to work, I have had to have FDEV reset my login here twice recently because it went haywire on me, I don't fancy not being able to play because my login to X company stopped working.

TorTorden_VR · Oct 20, 2020

varonica said:
True, right now we only have opinions, but I shan't be buying anything that requires a login to anywhere to work, I have had to have FDEV reset my login here twice recently because it went haywire on me, I don't fancy not being able to play because my login to X company stopped working.

That excludes every VR headset on the market.
Steam requires a login too.

As well as Elite dangerous itself.
Quite frankly I no longer know of a, sort of, current title that doesn't fail that requirement.
And frankly I don't miss the days of Starforce and CD requirements for games.

Tunudak · Oct 20, 2020

I don't know if anyone answered yet, but the elite dangerous steam version does work with the oculus 2 and link cable.

After setting up my PS4 controller with steam, and re-installing the game, I figured I'd see if it worked so I didn't have to buy it again. I've got an rtx 2060 mobile and an i7 2600.

1. open up the game on the desktop, set the graphics to vr.
2. Reboot the computer
3. Attach link cable and PS4 controller
4. Turn on quest 2 and load up oculus link
5. Start steam vr
6. Start elite dangerous

It was pretty much plug and play for me. It worked much better than everspace had.

Space Dandy · Oct 20, 2020

Oculus Quest 2 users are Getting BANNED and Headsets Bricked. Making hardware REQUIRE a damned social media account is truly the most stupid idea ever and it's stupid to support any hardware that does this.

Tom Jacobs · Oct 21, 2020

I'm waiting for Christmas and hope for a Quest 2 sale

Or maybe an other budget VR kit ...

CaptainComedy · Oct 21, 2020

Hi - I have looked everywhere but can't find a how to, to setup ED with virtual desktop (wireless)

I can launch the game, however I get no option for oculus touch controllers.

note everything works with oculus link fine, but the purpose is for wireless.

This is using ED from steam and not from the website, does this matter?

Paso · Oct 21, 2020

CaptainComedy said:
Hi - I have looked everywhere but can't find a how to, to setup ED with virtual desktop (wireless)

I can launch the game, however I get no option for oculus touch controllers.

note everything works with oculus link fine, but the purpose is for wireless.

This is using ED from steam and not from the website, does this matter?

Login to steam. ED should appear in the games section on the virtual desktop installed on your pc.
I don't think you can use the oculus controllers ingame though

CaptainComedy · Oct 21, 2020

I can do it with link no problems, but in virtual desktop the oculus touch option disappears

I wonder if it's because the oculus link interface isn't engaged....

He$$eeTant · Oct 22, 2020

With Virtual Desktop do I have to somehow disable my Oculus version of ED? I got the Steam Keys and installled ED to Steam but when I run it from inside Virtual Desktop I see it launch but it’s VR on a 2D desktop. However if I then put my Oculus Rift CV1 on its fine. So do I need to disable the Rift so I get VR in my Oculus Quest?

Cheers

DaveB · Oct 22, 2020

He$$eeTant said:
With Virtual Desktop do I have to somehow disable my Oculus version of ED? I got the Steam Keys and installled ED to Steam but when I run it from inside Virtual Desktop I see it launch but it’s VR on a 2D desktop. However if I then put my Oculus Rift CV1 on its fine. So do I need to disable the Rift so I get VR in my Oculus Quest?

Cheers

Virtual desktop I cant speak to - but if you play ED via oculus link on your quest you'll find it works the same way as on your rift. I just got a Quest and that's how I set it up (not wanting to mess with steamVR or partner keys) and it works just fine.

He$$eeTant · Oct 23, 2020

DaveB said:
Virtual desktop I cant speak to - but if you play ED via oculus link on your quest you'll find it works the same way as on your rift. I just got a Quest and that's how I set it up (not wanting to mess with steamVR or partner keys) and it works just fine.

Thanks DaveB,

Yeah I can use the link cable but I am trying to get stuff working wirelessly.

Ill keep searching. It seems some games are OK - Xplane 11, Half Life Alyx, and some not Elite and Dirt Rally. Not sure whats different between them but I just cant get them to run VR in Oculus Quest (2) using Virtual Desktop.

I am going to reinstall steam and see if that helps.

Tom Jacobs · Oct 23, 2020

i got a lenovo explorer for 100 credits in the mail today ...
lets see how WMR works in 2020

He$$eeTant · Oct 23, 2020

Gave up an resorted back to the link cable. I also saw the new feature just out that allows BitRate settings on link and they have additionally modified link to better handle colours/compression so both of these combined and the feeling of Elite is more or less back. Would be nice to loose the cable but for now at least its on par with what I was used to.

Aekero · Oct 23, 2020

Space Dandy I can feel your disdain for oculus through the screen lol, that said I watched the video and it was interesting. My first instinct is that it's annoying and I'd rather not do it. (although technically I'm grandfathered in to the old system for a few more years) My second instinct is that I already get targeted ads in facebook any time I do so much as glance at or mention a product. I'm not on facebook much though, so who cares really? The app and the ads are garbage either way.

Now, on the flip side, what's the risk of having your facebook account tied to your headset? I could see resale being an issue, I'm not sure how that works, if your serial is tied to that account forever or it can be reassigned. That aside, there are no ads in Oculus as of right now, like any piece of hardware that will depend on the content you're consuming. Don't want to pay for a sub to spotify? listen to ads! Want to save money on a kindle, get the ad-included cheaper version!

I suspect the biggest reason people are reacting so poorly, trying to create burner accounts etc is the threat of losing anonymity. I certainly don't want people in game to see my real name when they're playing, but I don't think that's what's going to show, they'll still see my handle. What this does is add traceability/accountability to the community, which in turn reduces the amount of dumpster-people toxicity that plagues almost every online community. (elite aside of course, you are all lovely

)

tldr: The people who have legitimate accounts will get their logins sorted. IMO this will crack down on toxic behavior, and if you're so toxic it warrants a ban, I have no sympathy for you. I am open to discussion here or via dm if you'd like.

Robotlike · Oct 24, 2020

CaptainComedy said:
Hi - I have looked everywhere but can't find a how to, to setup ED with virtual desktop (wireless)

I can launch the game, however I get no option for oculus touch controllers.

note everything works with oculus link fine, but the purpose is for wireless.

This is using ED from steam and not from the website, does this matter?

It took me a bit of trial and error to figure out the launch sequence for VD. I'm glad I did because it works great. They added some image enhancement options in the VD dashboard that make ED look really good in VR.
Note that ED does not natively support touch controllers so its good to have a hotas or a bluetooth gamepad. Also VD uses oculus drivers for the Quest so it doesn't care if you have oculus software on same pc

Here is what I do to launch it:

1. Launch VD in HMD, connect to desktop.

2. Start steam, (connect Bluetooth controller), minimize steam.

3. Use VD menu to launch Steam VR. (launching ED before Steam VR results in a failed Steam VR launch)

4a. Launch ED from Steam VR menu. It should be in the library

Or

4b. Launch ED from the VD Game tab

5. After ED launches it will be necessary to select “switch to VR” in VD menu as it starts on 3d type desktop flat mode

While playing, occasionally the image drops back to desktop and I need to manually switch back to VR. (This might be a bandwidth issue with mine)

Paso · Oct 25, 2020

OK, I have been trying different games, in the last couple of days mostly Elite. I'm using my second account to roam through the galaxy. But I digress.

Days ago I got a D-link Ax1800 router. I was ready to give up and return it because I could not get the 1200mbs speed when connecting the quest to it.
So after setting some stuff in the router menu (using dfs channels) I got it to work. And boy am I glad.

Can't play ED with high vr quality in Virtual Desktop because my pc can't handle that much supersampling without dropping frames like they're hot potatoes.
But I can do medium. Which is equivalent to around 2100x2100 per eye (more or less)

I have bitrate set up to 100mbs. Can't really notice any difference over 85mbs really but latency is stable at 25 ms at 100mbs so why not.

I have no lagging, no frame skipping.
Everything works very well and even though it's set on 72hz it's still smooth enough and doesn't take anything from the experience.

Oh and btw, I'm actually playing in a separate room, about 8m from the pc and router. (extensions for my hotas).
That's not necessarily helpful for Elite because I'm sitting anyway, but for most games it's excellent.

If anyone has any further questions I'll be glad to answer them.

He$$eeTant · Oct 25, 2020

Robotlike said:
It took me a bit of trial and error to figure out the launch sequence for VD. I'm glad I did because it works great. They added some image enhancement options in the VD dashboard that make ED look really good in VR.
Note that ED does not natively support touch controllers so its good to have a hotas or a bluetooth gamepad. Also VD uses oculus drivers for the Quest so it doesn't care if you have oculus software on same pc

Here is what I do to launch it:

1. Launch VD in HMD, connect to desktop.

2. Start steam, (connect Bluetooth controller), minimize steam.

3. Use VD menu to launch Steam VR. (launching ED before Steam VR results in a failed Steam VR launch)

4a. Launch ED from Steam VR menu. It should be in the library

Or

4b. Launch ED from the VD Game tab

5. After ED launches it will be necessary to select “switch to VR” in VD menu as it starts on 3d type desktop flat mode

While playing, occasionally the image drops back to desktop and I need to manually switch back to VR. (This might be a bandwidth issue with mine)

Stupid question but are you using the steam version of Ed?

Robotlike · Oct 25, 2020

He$$eeTant said:
Stupid question but are you using the steam version of Ed?

Yes i am using the steam version. I have both oculus and steam versions but I couldn't get the oculus version to launch in VR