X55 profiler is completely broken for me. After doing a clean reinstall of Windows 10 I am using it without drivers and its working fine, only one thing not working, the slide switch, no biggie. Also, if you are running the latest WDDM 2.0 drivers from nvidia, do not install the oculus runtime in compatibility mode, it will kill windows, just ignore the message about the unsupported configuration, extended mode still works fine.
Oculus Rift & Windows 10 Thread
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Windows 10 GemFX with Oculus Rift
I upgraded to windows 10 yesterday and thought I would see how ED would go with the Oculus Rift. Well first of all Oculus Rift version 0.6.0.1 would get recognized by windows 10, So I installed the version before. version 0.5.0.1 which it recognized. And I loaded up ED to see what my frames were. It was stable and just like DX11 but just a little smoother. So I thought I would try out one of the SweetFX mods. I did try SweetFX but there was a DX11 error. So I removed SweetFX and tried GemFX. And I was surprised that GemFX worked and it made the visuals look like it had more depth. The Blacks was dark and the lights such as the stars brighter in the distance. And when I flew into the station you can see more shadows and distinct light direction. If you haven't tried it because you may think your card is on low end, I am running a AMD HD 7870 with the latest driver and have the shader cache set to 1.
I upgraded to windows 10 yesterday and thought I would see how ED would go with the Oculus Rift. Well first of all Oculus Rift version 0.6.0.1 would get recognized by windows 10, So I installed the version before. version 0.5.0.1 which it recognized. And I loaded up ED to see what my frames were. It was stable and just like DX11 but just a little smoother. So I thought I would try out one of the SweetFX mods. I did try SweetFX but there was a DX11 error. So I removed SweetFX and tried GemFX. And I was surprised that GemFX worked and it made the visuals look like it had more depth. The Blacks was dark and the lights such as the stars brighter in the distance. And when I flew into the station you can see more shadows and distinct light direction. If you haven't tried it because you may think your card is on low end, I am running a AMD HD 7870 with the latest driver and have the shader cache set to 1.
I did something similar now - removed the saitek drivers, let Windows 10 use it's own and configured the HOTAS completly in game (without the X55 profile). I got everything to work aside the "right" on the cross cooly hat... not sure why.
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If it hasnt been mentioned, posts on win 10 forums indicate that first you upgrade to windows 10 from 7 or 8. once installed you can now do a clean install of windows 10 without needing the cd key etc. Your microsoft account knows you own a valid copy from the earlier upgrade.
But havent tried it myself yet.
But havent tried it myself yet.
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Windows 10 and Rift
Does ED work with Windows 10 and Oculus Rift?
At the moment I have blocked the upgrade to Windows 10 as I'll probably wait a while, but I'm just wondering if it works.
I read some rumours that if you "reserved" a copy of Windows 10 it will just install it automatically, so I've basically blocked it it Windows update.
Does ED work with Windows 10 and Oculus Rift?
At the moment I have blocked the upgrade to Windows 10 as I'll probably wait a while, but I'm just wondering if it works.
I read some rumours that if you "reserved" a copy of Windows 10 it will just install it automatically, so I've basically blocked it it Windows update.
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Not from a VR perspective but I have win 10 on my home rig but not on my work rig. The work rig just has the icon sitting in the task bar and to update you have to click it then click continue. It won't randomly start to upgrade to win 10 for you so there's no actual need to block it in windows update.
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For now keep away from win 10 if u have a rift. Even the 0.7 sdk out on the 20th does not officially support it.
As part of the apparent minority using AMD GPUs, here's what I've found so far. It took me a bit more finagling than some of you, but after a day or so I got everything working and definitely see improvements. In Windows 8.1, with 1.5x in-game SS, no Bloom or AA, (all other graphical settings maxed when out exploring, Shadows/AO dropped in stations or mining), I could set the Oculus Quality slider 4 or 5 ticks below max, but any higher I'd start getting stutter and judder instead of butter (sorry...). With the same settings, after upgrading to Windows 10, I was able to increase the Oculus Quality to max without sacrificing smoothness :O
For reference, here's my computer setup:
Intel i7-4790K @ 4.3GHz OC
Gigabyte mobo with Z97X chipset
XFX Radeon R9 290X DD @ +40% PowerTune, 1.1GHz core OC (10%), 1375MHz memory OC (all set in CCC, no Afterburner or anything)
16GB DDR3 memory @ 1866MHz
SoundBlaster ZxR
OS and Elite both are on a Seagate "SSHD" (which, in my experience is functionally identical to a standard HDD)
Saitek x52 HOTAS
Rift DK2, connected via HDMI-DVI adapter and with power cable plugged in
After a bunch of trial and error uninstalling and reinstalling various combinations of Oculus and Catalyst drivers, here is (I think) the process that finally worked. All in all, I think I actually had much less difficulty getting back up to speed (i.e., able to play again) after the 8.1-to-10 upgrade than I had a couple months ago when I had to do a clean install of 8.1 on a new hard drive.
- Have Rift Display Mode set to Extended
- Upgrade to Win10 Pro
- Let Windows install all the updates it wants
- Uninstall Oculus Runtime, Drivers, Services, etc., and make sure DK2 is powered off
- Restart
- Uninstall all AMD Catalyst software and drivers (tell it "all versions" if it asks!)
- Restart
- Make sure it actually uninstalled all that stuff and that something isn't still showing up in Programs and Features
- Open Device Manager -> Display Adapters and uninstall it, say yes if it asks about removing drivers for this device
- Restart
- Install Catalyst 15.6 Beta
- Restart
- Set OCs and whatnot in CCC
- (?) Install Catalyst 15.7.0 (not available from AMD anymore, but I'm pretty sure the install failed anyway, since it said there were "some problems" and then didn't ask me to restart. You might be able to skip this step, or use 15.7.1, but this is more or less a voodoo ritual so I have no clue...)
- Restart even though it didn't say to
- Install Oculus 6.0.1 Runtime (with no compatibility settings) - it won't install Oculus Display Driver but say OK
- Restart
- (I forget if DK2 was powered on or not for this step...) Open Control Panel -> Devices and Printers, right-click Rift DK2 -> Properties -> Hardware tab, select the second one (USB something, not HID) -> Properties -> Change Settings for Device -> Update Driver -> Browse for folder, open Oculus folder in ProgramFiles(x86) and go to the deepest level in the Drivers tree and say OK... it should change the name of the USB whatever device to something with Rift in the name
- Probably restart
- Make sure Oculus config tool isn't running, power on DK2
- Open Device Manager or Devices and Printers, they should be showing a new Monitor and saying it's disabled -> Enable this device
- File Explorer -> ProgramFiles(x86)/Oculus/...?/Services, open Properties for x86 service exe -> Compatibility -> Change Settings for all Users, set compatibility mode to Windows 8 and check Run as Admin
- Run the x86 service exe (double-click or create a shortcut), and if a terminal window appears and tells you HMDs detected = 1 and then gives a few lines about position sensors, you're done and can open Elite now. If not, try random combinations of restarting, powering DK2 on and off, opening/quitting OculusConfigUtil, and running/quitting the service (via the exe and killing process in Task Manager, NOT Services interface), maybe sacrifice something or dance around chanting?
Hope that helps somebody... Honestly I was kind of regretting the upgrade up to the point where I turned Oculus Settings to max, when I decided it was totally worth it...
For reference, here's my computer setup:
Intel i7-4790K @ 4.3GHz OC
Gigabyte mobo with Z97X chipset
XFX Radeon R9 290X DD @ +40% PowerTune, 1.1GHz core OC (10%), 1375MHz memory OC (all set in CCC, no Afterburner or anything)
16GB DDR3 memory @ 1866MHz
SoundBlaster ZxR
OS and Elite both are on a Seagate "SSHD" (which, in my experience is functionally identical to a standard HDD)
Saitek x52 HOTAS
Rift DK2, connected via HDMI-DVI adapter and with power cable plugged in
After a bunch of trial and error uninstalling and reinstalling various combinations of Oculus and Catalyst drivers, here is (I think) the process that finally worked. All in all, I think I actually had much less difficulty getting back up to speed (i.e., able to play again) after the 8.1-to-10 upgrade than I had a couple months ago when I had to do a clean install of 8.1 on a new hard drive.
- Have Rift Display Mode set to Extended
- Upgrade to Win10 Pro
- Let Windows install all the updates it wants
- Uninstall Oculus Runtime, Drivers, Services, etc., and make sure DK2 is powered off
- Restart
- Uninstall all AMD Catalyst software and drivers (tell it "all versions" if it asks!)
- Restart
- Make sure it actually uninstalled all that stuff and that something isn't still showing up in Programs and Features
- Open Device Manager -> Display Adapters and uninstall it, say yes if it asks about removing drivers for this device
- Restart
- Install Catalyst 15.6 Beta
- Restart
- Set OCs and whatnot in CCC
- (?) Install Catalyst 15.7.0 (not available from AMD anymore, but I'm pretty sure the install failed anyway, since it said there were "some problems" and then didn't ask me to restart. You might be able to skip this step, or use 15.7.1, but this is more or less a voodoo ritual so I have no clue...)
- Restart even though it didn't say to
- Install Oculus 6.0.1 Runtime (with no compatibility settings) - it won't install Oculus Display Driver but say OK
- Restart
- (I forget if DK2 was powered on or not for this step...) Open Control Panel -> Devices and Printers, right-click Rift DK2 -> Properties -> Hardware tab, select the second one (USB something, not HID) -> Properties -> Change Settings for Device -> Update Driver -> Browse for folder, open Oculus folder in ProgramFiles(x86) and go to the deepest level in the Drivers tree and say OK... it should change the name of the USB whatever device to something with Rift in the name
- Probably restart
- Make sure Oculus config tool isn't running, power on DK2
- Open Device Manager or Devices and Printers, they should be showing a new Monitor and saying it's disabled -> Enable this device
- File Explorer -> ProgramFiles(x86)/Oculus/...?/Services, open Properties for x86 service exe -> Compatibility -> Change Settings for all Users, set compatibility mode to Windows 8 and check Run as Admin
- Run the x86 service exe (double-click or create a shortcut), and if a terminal window appears and tells you HMDs detected = 1 and then gives a few lines about position sensors, you're done and can open Elite now. If not, try random combinations of restarting, powering DK2 on and off, opening/quitting OculusConfigUtil, and running/quitting the service (via the exe and killing process in Task Manager, NOT Services interface), maybe sacrifice something or dance around chanting?
Hope that helps somebody... Honestly I was kind of regretting the upgrade up to the point where I turned Oculus Settings to max, when I decided it was totally worth it...
Not sure if you've seen this, but:
Everything You Need to Disable in Windows 10
and
Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Windows 10
Everything You Need to Disable in Windows 10
and
Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Windows 10
Highly political drivel
EDIT: I REALLY hope you guys don't win. Don't anyone let the people who think the NSA should not be spying on us win.
It's complete propaganda and appeals to emotion. All the NSA does is get computers to monitor billions of calls and emails (trust me, the odds of a human having ever seen a drop of your activity are 1 in 10 million) with algorithms and the amount of devastating crime that prevents is tremendous. If it suddenly stopped, there won't be any apologies by the people who stopped it when terrorism blows up 100 fold. Trust me. Just pray they don't win. Stupid 1984, great book, taken as a bible by some.
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My upgrade to Windows 10 experience wasn't too good.
I love the operating system itself, so far it feels good and modern. But the Elite/Oculus Rift DK2 experience is not very nice.
Got the DK2 working when running the X86 service via short cut.. I was wondering why my DK2 wasn't powering up. Was changing USB hubs and the like until I realized it's not powering up because the services isn't up.
Then in Elite I'm having a terrible time. First of all the framerate dropped for me (I'm suprised many are reporting better framerates in Win 10 than with Win 7). Secondly the DK2 tracker keeps disconnecting for maybe half a sec or less than that and reconnects but I notice my HUD changes to a faded colour when the tracker isn't tracking my head. Its really annoying to see the cockpit changes colour all the time and when I look at some specific angles (like the engine/weapon/system panel) the tracker doesn't know my position so it switches between being in the seat and somewhere behind the seat like 5 to 10 times a second, but this is only when I look at that panel, if I look at the left or right panel its fine.
I don't know what's going on at the moment.
I love the operating system itself, so far it feels good and modern. But the Elite/Oculus Rift DK2 experience is not very nice.
Got the DK2 working when running the X86 service via short cut.. I was wondering why my DK2 wasn't powering up. Was changing USB hubs and the like until I realized it's not powering up because the services isn't up.
Then in Elite I'm having a terrible time. First of all the framerate dropped for me (I'm suprised many are reporting better framerates in Win 10 than with Win 7). Secondly the DK2 tracker keeps disconnecting for maybe half a sec or less than that and reconnects but I notice my HUD changes to a faded colour when the tracker isn't tracking my head. Its really annoying to see the cockpit changes colour all the time and when I look at some specific angles (like the engine/weapon/system panel) the tracker doesn't know my position so it switches between being in the seat and somewhere behind the seat like 5 to 10 times a second, but this is only when I look at that panel, if I look at the left or right panel its fine.
I don't know what's going on at the moment.
This didn't happen when I upgraded. My logon screen is a shiny windows 10 logo. the only place my pictures run in a slideshow is on the start menu's pictures tile (which can be removed).
I had a surprisingly simple upgrade experience. Windows 10 had downloaded and kept nagging about installation, so last Sunday I decided to bite the bullet and let it install. Took about 30 minutes after which I was greeted by a pretty new Windows 10 task bar and nice background image. All my icons were where I had left them, and the couple of programs I tested first worked without a hitch.
Next, I turned on DK2, but it had no image. I remembered that after some Rift SDK upgrade a while ago it had reset to Direct Mode, and sure enough, this was the reason. I switched it back to Extended Mode, and without doing anything else or reinstalling anything, I performed my normal ED startup routine:
1) Launch MSI Afterburner and set the overclock values.
2) Launch VoiceAttack
3) Launch VLC and start listening to Radio Sidewinder
4) Launch Open Broadcaster Software (to be ready to capture video from the ED secondary window).
5) Launch E
launcher, log in, and click on Play
6) Move the mouse to the Rift display and put on the headset.
To my amazement, there were no problems, everything worked just like it did on Windows 8.1, except that somehow the image seemed to track better, like the latency was less or some such..
In short, I did not reinstall NVidia drivers, did not reinstall Oculus SDK, and the only settings change I did was to switch back to Extended Mode.
Happy camper!
Edit: Forgot to mention, the biggest surprise was that before the upgrade I had 8 GB of free disk space (I run an 80 GB SSD disk as my system drive), after the upgrade I had 37.4 GB of free disk space! Haven't yet found anything missing that the upgrade would have deleted, so this is still a bit of a mystery.
Next, I turned on DK2, but it had no image. I remembered that after some Rift SDK upgrade a while ago it had reset to Direct Mode, and sure enough, this was the reason. I switched it back to Extended Mode, and without doing anything else or reinstalling anything, I performed my normal ED startup routine:
1) Launch MSI Afterburner and set the overclock values.
2) Launch VoiceAttack
3) Launch VLC and start listening to Radio Sidewinder
4) Launch Open Broadcaster Software (to be ready to capture video from the ED secondary window).
5) Launch E
launcher, log in, and click on Play6) Move the mouse to the Rift display and put on the headset.
To my amazement, there were no problems, everything worked just like it did on Windows 8.1, except that somehow the image seemed to track better, like the latency was less or some such..
In short, I did not reinstall NVidia drivers, did not reinstall Oculus SDK, and the only settings change I did was to switch back to Extended Mode.
Happy camper!
Edit: Forgot to mention, the biggest surprise was that before the upgrade I had 8 GB of free disk space (I run an 80 GB SSD disk as my system drive), after the upgrade I had 37.4 GB of free disk space! Haven't yet found anything missing that the upgrade would have deleted, so this is still a bit of a mystery.
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What does the #6 mean?
It seems people with great upgrade experience are those coming from Win 8 instead of Win 7. Anyone from Win 7 that also had a great experience they'd like to share?
The free disk space surprised me too. I gained 10GB extra moving from Win 7 to Win 10.
FWIW - I upgraded from WIN7-64 wo WIN10-64 with no issues other than need to upgrade Nvidia driver and reset extended mode.
This doesn't answer your question, but I'd also say that whether or not Win 8 is necessary for a great upgrade experience, it doesn't appear to be sufficient. The people who've had very smooth sailing also seem to have Nvidia GPUs in common :/
That said, after playing more last night I'd like to reiterate what I said in my previous post, how amazingly better everything looks with the Oculus Quality slider all the way up, which was never possible for me before upgrading from Win 8.1.
I've installed Windows 10 three times now on my PC and I'm more or less happy with it. The only issue I have is that the X55 is broken and there is no support for DK2 but it turns out these are of no consequence.
First time was an upgrade from 8.1 to 10. Everything still worked, upgraded drivers for my 980Tis and it was more or less working OK.
Decided to do a clean install and installing the DK2 in compatibility mode killed it, I managed to get up and running again by using system restore but the install felt wrong and I wasn't happy with how the X55 was functioning so gave it one last clean install.
Installed the DK2 without compatibility mode and ignored the prompt, plugged i the X55 and didn't bother installing drivers, remapped some controls in ED after pulling down clean files from Steam and the whole thing is running flawlessly.
Looking forward to proper DK2 and X55 support but in the mena time its running better than before (less judder) so I'm pretty happy.
First time was an upgrade from 8.1 to 10. Everything still worked, upgraded drivers for my 980Tis and it was more or less working OK.
Decided to do a clean install and installing the DK2 in compatibility mode killed it, I managed to get up and running again by using system restore but the install felt wrong and I wasn't happy with how the X55 was functioning so gave it one last clean install.
Installed the DK2 without compatibility mode and ignored the prompt, plugged i the X55 and didn't bother installing drivers, remapped some controls in ED after pulling down clean files from Steam and the whole thing is running flawlessly.
Looking forward to proper DK2 and X55 support but in the mena time its running better than before (less judder) so I'm pretty happy.
I also have Nvidia 970 with an Intel i7 2.6GHz. Sadly I had the Oculus Quality slider all the way up with Windows 7.
Now with Windows 10 I have to drop it down to about 50% or 60% to keep the tracker from disconnecting all the time.
I just updated my Nvidia drivers to the latest ones (before this I used the ones that came with Win10). Unfortunately I don't see much difference there either.