As long as it isn't a hard copy like the dreadful Malaysian tapir, I wouldn't say its a reskin
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I dont consider it a "reskin" if the model has to be changed, that would be just a different texture painted over the same model, but I guess wee see the meaning differently.
But I dont know I kind of grew into this phase. When I bumped into some of my oldest comments here on the forum, I was always wanting just one type of a certain animals (one hyena, one penguin, one flamingo etc.) but somehow I gradually changed my mind when I went deeper into understanding zoos as the consequence of playing the game. Diversity is something important so all of my zoos for example dont have the same Hyena species, but I can pick from more. Of course I like unique animals just as anyone, but with the vision of PZ not slowing down, I think we can allow ourselves some similar animals.
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Lmao I laughed so hard at this
I hope not. It would be a bummer if they were listed in the zoopedia and market as just "butterfly" with each species being a different skin or something. If they did that, why even bother making them an animal? They might as well have been a special effect prop, like we've been asking for for years.
I wonder if they are actually a seperate animal ingame but for the convenience are listed as one animal for the dlc pack. I also do not want them listed as just a single butterfly
Okay, holy crap what a good pack! Not one, not two, but four of my most wanted animals are coming with the Maned Wolf, Emu, Caracal, and Red-Necked Wallaby, and FIVE species of butterflies with interspecies enrichment?! Frontier, you keep on releasing quality content like this, and I guarantee that this game will have a thriving playerbase for years to come.
I don't know how it is with gaming in general, but according to the people of JWE2, any change that only affects an animal's appearance, even if it involves altering the model, is a skin... going by that standard, what we appear to have with our new gnu is "copy, paste, reskin, done".
And I love diversity and I'm all for clones... not only is it practical, but there are many great animals out there that look and move the same. But consider this; what we have right now is a "blackish-brown African wildebeest"... what we are about to get is a "blackish-gray African wildebeest"... that doesn't sound very diverse to me...
So happy - my two most needed animals in one pack (emu and red-necked wallaby) plus not one, but FIVE butterflies (which I’ve badly wanted since beta).
Maned wolf, hyena and caracal are great - not on my personal top 10 Wishlist but I really like all of them.
Armadillo and wildebeest are good to have but don’t blow me away… although armadillo does add a much (but not most) needed animal to the SA roster and so is very welcome.
Overall, I’m super happy - I’d have paid the price just for the wallaby or emu (let alone both) so everything else is just a bonus!
Maned wolf, hyena and caracal are great - not on my personal top 10 Wishlist but I really like all of them.
Armadillo and wildebeest are good to have but don’t blow me away… although armadillo does add a much (but not most) needed animal to the SA roster and so is very welcome.
Overall, I’m super happy - I’d have paid the price just for the wallaby or emu (let alone both) so everything else is just a bonus!
We can only hope this, there is no certainty.
I think because on Frontier’s post they are listed as having ‘interspecies enrichment’, they will be listed as individual species on the market and zoopedia. I definitely think it would be the case. It would probably also be easier for them to create five separate ‘reskin’ species than have one butterfly species with five different ‘colour morph’ variations.
In any case, I really do hope that they are individual species!
" it looks it will have some unique thing with its back hair getting raised when fighting or when it will be stressed" I don't seem to have read this from official sources...
"Also the Wildebeest is not a copy and paste as there had to be work done on the model, unlike for example the tapir which is just different skin." If the gnu is not considered a clone, then I raise my hands in this case too, there is nothing more to say...
"If the rest of the roster is great, I am fine with some obligatory "clones"." This statement also makes me understand many things. How do you prefer or enhance clones or subspecies when there are still so many unique species in the game I just can't figure it out. There's always this pervasive, irritating servility...
This is the same as saying about oryx or panthers ( Clouded Leopard and Snow Leopard)....
With the buffaloes I "agree", the wildebeest.... Even leopard with jaguar (which is a big stretch) maybe ok... But everyone has a different model (I think the wildebeest will have a new one, well, because they are completely different species).
But the hyena is acutely different.
Why do you write about the hyena and single out the caracal, since the caracal is a "copy" of the lynx?
On this principle.
Just because something is similar doesn't mean it's a clone like the Himalayan bear (which isn't a clone anyway because it has a different model).
The only clone animal (as @FoxyDee wrote) is the Malayan tapir. And only the Malayan tapir. People confuse the term "common clone" versus "base/template"
I don't have enough nice words to describe that
Try again on Steam page.
I dont "prefer" them. I said I am fine with them since Frontier have always included them in animal packs. It is always between either scenery or some similar "clone" animals that are in the animal packs instead of the scenery. I would honestly take these "clones" over more themed scenery all the time. More animals the better for me.
Well, because that's what it refers to... Are elephants, hippos, rhinos their copy too? No, so just what is the discussion about?I don't have enough nice words to describe that
I don't actually know at this point, the discussion is upside down from the last time I read it
You're probably right, I could put caracal on that "list" as well. It is very similar to another animal in the game, but has longer ears, shorter fur, and is less stocky, perhaps they had to work a little more to modify it than the lynx. The striped hyena has the streaks to change in the skin, the real extra work is the very thick hair on the back
What do you guys think for intersperses and biomes for the animals
Wildebeest: grassland, (maybe aquatic) inter species: all the Savannah safari crew (Social req.): 3-30
Emu: Grassland, desert, temperate, tropical? Inter species: red kangaroo, wallaby. Social: 1-15
Wallaby: grassland, temperate inter species: emu, kangaroo, koala? Social: 3-15
Caracal: grassland, desert. Social: 1-2
Striped Hyena: grassland, desert. Social: 2-4
Maned wolf: grassland, temperate, tropical? Social: 1-4
Armadillo: grassland, desert, temperate, tropical inter species: raccoon, skunk, prairie dog, capybara? Social: 1-5
Wildebeest: grassland, (maybe aquatic) inter species: all the Savannah safari crew (Social req.): 3-30
Emu: Grassland, desert, temperate, tropical? Inter species: red kangaroo, wallaby. Social: 1-15
Wallaby: grassland, temperate inter species: emu, kangaroo, koala? Social: 3-15
Caracal: grassland, desert. Social: 1-2
Striped Hyena: grassland, desert. Social: 2-4
Maned wolf: grassland, temperate, tropical? Social: 1-4
Armadillo: grassland, desert, temperate, tropical inter species: raccoon, skunk, prairie dog, capybara? Social: 1-5
we can write for days about this, the real point is one, objective. Here are some examples: after 3 years of playing, is it acceptable that there is a lack of an entire category of animals in the game (flying birds), is it acceptable that so many monkeys are missing in the game? Etc, et cetera... So the point is: is it pleasant to always receive similar animals or clones or subspecies of others already present in each pack, instead of having completely unexplored animals? I'm absolutely not against clones, nor similar, nor subspecies, what I think is that they should absolutely come after covering so many shortcomings of the game. Introduced so now I see it more as lots of little speculations put into each DLC. If the majority here are happy with this situation there's no problem, but to say "UAAOOO, it's absolutely great, great choice", for these "similar" animals I see it as a bit of a stretch with servile tones.