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When I saw Binturong on the list I was hyped straight away. But now it has been shown... It's quite a disappointment. They don't look like this. This is a specific animal which looks ugly in real life but is a super cool animal. Now it looks more like a reskinned red panda with double ears.
 
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Im not an visual artist really that artistic in any way. My best piece of art was a painting from a bob ross video. (For those interested: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/miniature-models-revell-pocher-etc.520169/post-8210904 ). So i cant judge a artists work in the same way.

I really like the overall visual style of the Planet Series. And I am so familiar with this style after so many years that I might not even be looking at it anymore as a game that although is trying to be looking realistic it really isnt.

I really like all animals maybe because I would be in no way capable of creating it as im not an artist.

In the end for me it just is about me enjoying the game as it is and I do.

And I fully understand others look at it with a very different view, especially as its such a unique animal and for some their very favourite animal they wanted for so long.

Thats why im less bothered by the lion, its not that unique.

I agree it looks not exactly as I'd expected as well.

The other animals I do really like so far.
 
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I'm not seeing the problem here. The eyes are further apart, the snout is longer and narrower, the ears are further down the sides of the head which is also narrower than the red panda.

I mean, I'm never one to shill for Frontier. I was never going to buy this pack at launch anyway (too many other games I want to buy/play at this time of the year), but I don't see how this is any worse than how the hyena looks compared to real hyenas, or the miniaturised Bactrian camel, the cartoony-looking lion, the incredibly fat brown bears, and so on. It's definitely not perfect, I'm not saying it is, but I don't think it's as bad as everyone is saying it is. The ears are definitely the biggest issue.
For me the snout isn't long enough, the head is round instead of kind of diamond shaped / edgy as it should be (sorry, I'm not good with naming shapes but I'm sure you get me) , the body shape is fat instead of muscular, the fur lags grey all over and the weird double ears just scream bad research. It's simply not the quality I want and expect in paid content from the devs themselfs.
And I totally agree that there are animals in game that could use some improvements. But I never were in a situation where I had to KNOW what animals are in game, to recognize them. And they messed up the walk style and fur of my favorite ape (orang utan) and I'm not complaining.
But lets be honest, most rigs that need improvement are base game animals and we got a lot of animals for our money plus game play and pieces etc.
This time we are paying only for the animals and while I can settle with the not-perfect dhole and tapir, this one should have never passed quality control in the first place. This isn't an questionable art style choice like the lion, graphic restrictions like orang utan fur or something like that. This to me is plain out rushed, bad researched, beginners work.
 
I think those are even more Complaints than the Polar Bear got so I think it is likely that it might get changed but maybe People should protest in the Way that they'll first buy the DLC once the Binturong is fixed or they at least announce that they will fix it.

The more Pictures of real Binturongs I see the worse the one in the Game becomes for me.
I'm fine with a few Inaccuracies regarding the Malayan Tapir because maybe they just assumed it looks almost the same as Bairds Tapir but the Binturong is really problematic
 
I think those are even more Complaints than the Polar Bear got so I think it is likely that it might get changed but maybe People should protest in the Way that they'll first buy the DLC once the Binturong is fixed or they at least announce that they will fix it.
Would be the right thing to do. But since I am still waiting for the promised base gane feature "personalities" and they are really taking their time with deep diving, if I decide to wait for ab update of the Bintu-wrong, I'd only buy if it is actually released.
We are building a lot on promises, the older this game gets.
 
Unfortunately, I have to say this is the first time I've been truly disappointed in the quality of an animal model. The binturong is not up to previous standards.

This is exactly why I DIDN'T want more animals per pack. If quality is going to suffer like this, I'd rather get fewer animals.
 
This is exactly why I DIDN'T want more animals per pack. If quality is going to suffer like this, I'd rather get fewer animals.
I think the lack of building pieces/scenery should compensate for that.
They could've taken a few weeks more time, if that would've helped.

But I understand your POV, quantity/quality is always a concern when changes occur.
 
Actually I have been creating animal models out of clay/wire/fiber for well over 20 years now. As a hobby and commission work as well, I have models a large amount of models in private collections and museums, so your statement is not completely accurate. As an artist and perfectionist you end up doing more research on the animal's physical attributes and general appearance up to the smallest details, at times you spent considerably more time engaged in research than creating the model. I disagree with you, and respect your opinion, however the animal is for way too many reasons already stated in detail, the single worse model Frontier has ever created. This is not intended to shame Frontier as a company as they have produced some sensational work, it is meant to discourage this from ever happening in the future, and hopefully correcting the error. The artist responsible was not who we usually deal with, and I will stick to that.

This carnivore collection was created for a show, and it now resides in Dubai within a private collection, during its creation I had limited time, just under eight months, I was unable to add the necessary fiber layers to the animals the way I would have liked (very similar issue with Frontier's limitations with hair) As you can probably see with the Binturong in the back, even though the layers of hair that are distinctive of the species, are totally missing, the anatomy of the animal was captured correctly. Frontier's attempt to change a Red Panda into a binturong was a disaster.

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Good, bravo...but it isn't the same thing make models out of clay/wire/fiber and virtual model with a computer...

The problem isn't the fact that Frontier starts from models of animals already made to make "new" ones, for many animals it also seems obvious to me that they do so.
In this case they certainly used the red panda model, but before making a final judgment I want to see it ingame.
Surely the lack of hair on the ear is a false step and perhaps even the eyes too sweet ... but let's wait before making judgments on the body.
About the general fluff, we don't know if there is only the model present in the pic, but I think so and I also think it's practically impossible for them to make any corrections before launching on it.
 
Im not an visual artist really that artistic in any way. My best piece of art was a painting from a bob ross video. (For those interested: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/miniature-models-revell-pocher-etc.520169/post-8210904 ). So i cant judge a artists work in the same way.

I really like the overall visual style of the Planet Series. And I am so familiar with this style after so many years that I might not even be looking at it anymore as a game that although is trying to be looking realistic it really isnt.

I really like all animals maybe because I would be in no way capable of creating it as im not an artist.

In the end for me it just is about me enjoying the game as it is and I do.

And I fully understand others look at it with a very different view, especially as its such a unique animal and for some their very favourite animal they wanted for so long.

Thats why im less bothered by the lion, its not that unique.

I agree it looks not exactly as I'd expected as well.

The other animals I do really like so far.

That is one beautiful painting, you definitely have an artist in you.
 
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Good, bravo...but it isn't the same thing make models out of clay/wire/fiber and virtual model with a computer...

The problem isn't the fact that Frontier starts from models of animals already made to make "new" ones, for many animals it also seems obvious to me that they do so.
In this case they certainly used the red panda model, but before making a final judgment I want to see it ingame.
Surely the lack of hair on the ear is a false step and perhaps even the eyes too sweet ... but let's wait before making judgments on the body.
About the general fluff, we don't know if there is only the model present in the pic, but I think so and I also think it's practically impossible for them to make any corrections before launching on it.

Not according to those who modd, as you pointed out I can not say how easy it is or is not, clay and virtual models are two very different forms of art. However I do listen to those who know how, and everything here is aesthetics, nothing major for them, for us that know what the animal should look like is an insult to every Binturong alive today:cool: maybe that is a bit of a reach, but I'm sure every Binturong out there would agree with me. With the legs this thread has gotten it is very possible they have fixed already, lol, or will tonite, first thing in the morning, or in the following days. We might not ever find out about if the monstrosity truly existed, or if it was early April's fool day joke. In any case if by release day you find yourself staring at a fat spray painted red panda, then you will know that it was not a dream. I sure hope it is.
 
Unfortunately, I have to say this is the first time I've been truly disappointed in the quality of an animal model. The binturong is not up to previous standards.

This is exactly why I DIDN'T want more animals per pack. If quality is going to suffer like this, I'd rather get fewer animals.
I highly doubt the higher numbre of animals is the reason for the Binturong disaster. In my opinion the clouded leopard, the monkey and the leaf insect are in fact some of the highest quality animals we got so far, at least judging from the look / the trailer.
I don't know what went wrong here, maybe the artist is fairly new in the job or had a very bad day. However, there are several people responsible for animal models, so at some point there should have been SOMEONE realizing that this is not up to Frontiers usual standards.

At the end of the day it's okay to somewhat mess up, as long as you fix it. But I can't get over how everyone at Frontier was okay with giving this animal four ears...
 
(This whole event reminds me of that mishap when the Sonic movie trailer was released, with the weird "realistic" Sonic😂)

Well, Frontier, the fans have spoken. Y'all have a couple of days to do some last minute tweaks. Show us that y'all listen to our feedback. At the very least, fix the ears (I'd call that a day)
 
@Chante Goodman @Jay Wilton can you guys please consider fixing the Binturong or atleast look into it. The fan out cry is enormous
We should have a little patience until at the very least tomorrow evening though. I hope Chante and Jay are already enjoying their off-work evening and those things need to be duscussed intern with the devs.
I agree though, that addressing the overwhelming negative feedback is needed before release.
 
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