I can respect that. Good luck!
PVP piracy - Destroyed three trader ships over 4t of cargo... help me understand
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I can respect that. Good luck!
Considering the risk, time, low value and small amount of cargo one usually get AND we cannot dock, board and transfer cargo but have to SCOOP it or use limpets it's no wonder piracy in space is rather ineffective.
ANY other profession including scavenging USS for loot is more efficient.
Market prices need to fluctuate more between market types and overall goods need to have more at their destination.
A agricultural world selling grain should be dirt cheap but dropping it off at a mining colony should give several hundred percent worth it's value.
Also, a system STATE should affect prices.
A system with WAR or CIVIL WAR should have regular goods like food skyrocket due to demand as day to day work and production is halted.
A agricultural world with civil war would have less stock of goods and sell it for a higher price.
I'd wager I can pull taffitite and platinum out of surface POIs faster than most pirates can pull cargo out of CMDR ships.
Or NPC ships for that matter.
- Interdict
- Stop enemy
- Use hatch limpet
- Watch target leave
- Start to pick up cargo
- Get engaged by system security that was called by the NPC or CMDR due to reported piracy
- Get away with half the cargo and a scorched hull
Profit: Less than 50K
- Go to nav buoy
- Scan targets
- Shoot wanted ships
- Profit far more than 50K
Funnily, though I usually don't antagonize clean ships, I had to do some err.. shopping for conductive ceramics, so I started popping haulers, adders, Asp Scouts etc in an anarchy system, where no police will interfere. The cargo they release before vaporizing is a lot more alluring then in normal systems. I've seen a lot of gold, platinum and other high value stuff floating around. And it seemed the npc pirates didn't really care either. Ofc the drawback is that once you collect said cargo, those other pirates will probably open fire on you, but I guess it does matter where you start pirating ships.
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What is more surprising is that considering how quickly one can be attacked I seldom see pirates attack traders that are flying around. They scan ME for cargo but not the trader close to me WITH cargo.
Sterling MH
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It ain't cheating. You want to make them play your game,not theirs, and they bought this game too. That's cheating. You're changing their gamefor them and forcing them to play it. You're abusing the loophole that there is no Crime and Punishment system to stop you and AI police are a joke.
Cheating you of your benefits of cheating isn't cheating.
It's Strategic Exiting. Not combat logging.
Sterling MH
Banned
And you can't cheat a cheater, so this can't be combat logging, since it's cheating a cheater. So we have another name for it since Combat Logging is a priori defined as cheating, which this isn't. So it's Strategic Exiting. Not combat logging.
This guy^
I'd say look forward to meeting you in the black, but I'm on another platform.
Hopefully someone else grants you the rebuy you so desperately need.
It's an exploit. AFAIK it has never been called a cheat by FDEV. If it's a cheat is based on definition and interpretation. People should stop calling it a cheat and use exploit instead.
Please show me when someone at Frontier claimed that pirating players is cheating? I'll wait.
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Breaking the rules = Cheating, not sure what games you play where someone doing something that's against the rules isn't cheating. Picked up the ball with your hands and ran into the goal? Cheating.
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It is "against the rules" and punishable according to FD.. that's all anyone needs to know tbh.. how you define it makes little difference.
Or this.
Sterling MH
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It's also an exploit to use the lack of any C&P to get your griefer on against a target that has no chance. So leaving the game that has CHANGED for me by someone else's edict isn't cheating. It's going back to the game I had before someone cheated and changed it for me.
Since people want to say "You called it combat logging, and that's cheating, yu're a cheater", I asked what other name we could call negotiating our way out of an unwanted PvP game in the only way left to us, and proffered Strategic Exiting. Nobody offered an alternative, so I'm going with that.
All of you calling it cheating and against the rules and clamped down are wrong, it's not being clamped down because it's a valid answer to the problem of griefers and until they get C&P working, it's either accept Strategic Exiting or everyone playing Solo, which is like a permanent CL for you people.
Note too that harassment (such as, for example, forcing someone to play with you, or re-interdiction of someone who got away fair and square) is against the ToS. Not blocked from plaing open, blocked from accessing their service entirely. Which, then, do you think is more serious?
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Oooh. scary. quaking here.
Not.
Nice alternative facts! Do you have some alternative sources for that too? Otherwise you won't be taken serious by well anybody, not even the alternative carebears.
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Forget solo, I'd block you from playing entirely with a good old fashioned ban.
Sterling MH
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Nope, you're entirely wrong. First, these are not facts, neither are yours, they're claims and interpretations.
Secondly, it's YOUR definition I'm being bound to, so I HAVE to give it a different name. Don't blame me for your intransigence and desire not to think. Go read your EULA, there's harassment right in there. Griefing which is what you want to do, is a violation of the license, without which you don't get to connect, therefore don't get to play the game since it's a server-required game.
You want to force others to play PvP because you play it, they have only one negotiation tactic to take: Strategic Exiting. It's not an exploit, it's the only option available.
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Ooooh. Scared of me now, I see.
You don't have the power by the way.
Lmao, missed this gem. If this is what passes for harassment I think I'll just go ahead and jump off a cliff or go hide in the woods before I harass someone with my opinion they disagree with.
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Sterling MH
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Sorry, dude, I'm not your gameplay.
I'll defend those who you grief on by being absolutely clear that their actions that deny you your cheating its benefit to you (at their expense) is not cheating.
Don't like it? Play arena. Lotsa PvP there. Though it's against a similarly armed oppo, so you probably hate that and avoid CQC.
I'll defend those who you grief on by being absolutely clear that their actions that deny you your cheating its benefit to you (at their expense) is not cheating.
Don't like it? Play arena. Lotsa PvP there. Though it's against a similarly armed oppo, so you probably hate that and avoid CQC.
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