Rare/non-exist animal in captivity wishlist

[sympatrick]

The same is true for Tasmanian Devils and yet they're on your list - just replace 'Europe' with 'internationally' and 'The Americas' with 'Australia'.

I reckon those two species are more common outside their native range than the devil? I included the devil particularly because only devils past breeding age are being exported, if I'm not mistaken.

If the community can agree they are common enough outside of Australia, I'll happily take it out. Although, as far as I know, sustainability is still an issue for devils outside Australia.

No silly, Australia is not Europe or North America and therefore its zoos don't count /s

I'm Aussie myself, mate!

 

[Matyej167]

Only five for now, but I might add more later, if allowed.

Yes, allowed!

 

[ElectricMonk]

I reckon those two species are more common outside their native range than the devil?

Are they? Tasmanian Devils’ native range is (surprise) Tasmania, which doesn’t really have any zoos , per se. (There are a couple of c-grade zoos, which don’t have devils, and a couple sanctuaries that do)… devils in captivity are more common outside their range (across Australia) than they are within it (within Tasmania)… indeed, there are more zoos with devils just in Victoria (outside their range) than there are in Tasmania.

 

[Matyej167]

Are they? Tasmanian Devils’ native range is (surprise) Tasmania, which doesn’t really have any zoos , per se. (There are a couple of c-grade zoos, which don’t have devils, and a couple sanctuaries that do)… devils in captivity are more common outside their range (across Australia) than they are within it (within Tasmania)… indeed, there are more zoos with devils just in Victoria (outside their range) than there are in Tasmania.

Could you submit your wishlist?

 

[DarthQuell]

Are they? Tasmanian Devils’ native range is (surprise) Tasmania, which doesn’t really have any zoos , per se. (There are a couple of c-grade zoos, which don’t have devils, and a couple sanctuaries that do)… devils in captivity are more common outside their range (across Australia) than they are within it (within Tasmania)… indeed, there are more zoos with devils just in Victoria (outside their range) than there are in Tasmania.

Out of curiosity, why is that? Is it to prevent inbreeding within Tasmania, so exporting different groups can expand the gene pool?

 

[sympatrick]

Are they? Tasmanian Devils’ native range is (surprise) Tasmania, which doesn’t really have any zoos , per se. (There are a couple of c-grade zoos, which don’t have devils, and a couple sanctuaries that do)… devils in captivity are more common outside their range (across Australia) than they are within it (within Tasmania)… indeed, there are more zoos with devils just in Victoria (outside their range) than there are in Tasmania.

The problem with that argument is that devils are also native to the mainland, although they were extirpated until recent reintroduction efforts. Therefore, I'm counting Australia as a whole in this context.

 

[YesIndeed]

Are they? Tasmanian Devils’ native range is (surprise) Tasmania, which doesn’t really have any zoos , per se. (There are a couple of c-grade zoos, which don’t have devils, and a couple sanctuaries that do)… devils in captivity are more common outside their range (across Australia) than they are within it (within Tasmania)… indeed, there are more zoos with devils just in Victoria (outside their range) than there are in Tasmania.

I agree with this. I don't think countries should be counted as an animals whole range. There's a reason why people don't say Hawaiian animals are mostly found in their native range because their in USA which has a lot of zoos.

 

[ElectricMonk]

Out of curiosity, why is that? Is it to prevent inbreeding within Tasmania, so exporting different groups can expand the gene pool?

Nope, it’s just because Tassie has too-small a population (a bit under 550,000) to have many zoos

 

[ElectricMonk]

Fai

The problem with that argument is that devils are also native to the mainland, although they were extirpated until recent reintroduction efforts. Therefore, I'm counting Australia as a whole in this context.

fair

 

[sympatrick]

I agree with this. I don't think countries should be counted as an animals whole range. There's a reason why people don't say Hawaiian animals are mostly found in their native range because their in USA which has a lot of zoos.

I agree with this logic too, for instance in our case American crocodiles in the whole of US are native only to southern Florida, so I wouldn't count anything outside Florida as native. However, my point with the devils was, they are actually native to the entire continent, apparently except for the driest parts of the interior.

Devil poo fossils found on the mainland spark hope for their successful return

More than 3,000 years after Tasmanian devils disappeared off the mainland, evidence of how they co-existed with other animals has been unearthed in fossilised poo.

www.abc.net.au

https://scienceworld.scholastic.com/content/dam/classroom-magazines/scienceworld/issues/2020-21/041221/return-of-the-devils/SW-041221-ReturnOfTheDevils-Med3.jpg

 

[KönigDerKaffeebohnen]

 

[Baryonix82]

• Saiga Antelope (CR)

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• Tibetan Antelope (NT)

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• Ethiopian Wolf (EN)

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• Andean Mountain Cat (EN)

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• Southern Elephant Seal (LC)

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• Blue-spotted Tree Monitor (EN)

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• Seven-colored Tanager (VU)

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• Galapagos Pink Land Iguana (CR)

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• Giant Mudskipper (LC)

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• Tibetan Blue Bear (NT)

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My two new additions to my list is this

• Musk Ox (LC)

• Black-footed Ferret (EN)

 

[synthetase]

1. Side-striped Jackal
2. Sumatran Rhino
3. Tibetan Fox
4. Saola
5. Walrus
6. Ethiopian Wolf
7. Any Albatross
8. Shrew Opossum
9. Sulawesi Palm Civet
10. Short-eared Dog

My 2 New Additions!
1. Sulawesi Bear Cuscus!
2. Tibetan Antelope (Chiru)
#teambearcuscus

 

[Matyej167]

The list is updated!

 

[ReptoMin]

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Panther Chameleon, along with the Veiled Chameleon, is the most common Zoo Chameleon in the world.

 

[YesIndeed]

Also wanted to mention I feel like the perenties aren't that rare especially compared to the other animals. 9 of the 12 zoos I've been to in my life had them.

 

[Khaidu]

1. Saiga antelope
2. Lyrebird
3. Kiwi
4. Shoebill
5. Tasmanian devil
6. Yangtze giant softshell turtle

My two new additions
7. Marine iguana
8. Walrus

 

[leehonglocal]

My two new additions
7. Marine iguana
8. Walrus

I disagreed with marine iguana being there. No offense but I won't want to be confused about which species and subspecies could last and breed in captivity in real-life, and which could not.

 

[NZFanatic]

Sumatran rhino is the only one I desperately want.

Edit: I should add that I also want a bunch of NZ animals that are technically rare in captivity, but they're all super common here so I don't know what the rules are regarding that.

 

[TheYeti]

While at this point I'm not supportive of the inclusion of species like saiga, Sumatran rhino, etc. I do think it would be interesting if we had some kind of 'wildlife reserve' option. Both species don't do well in zoos, but it may be nice to have them in some form of safari park or wildlife reserve (also in line with the original name of the game and the conservation aspect of it).