The initial nerfs wouldn't have made anything useless, it only made stacking a very bad idea.
SCBs finaly nerfed proper
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The heat damage SCBs generates has been increased a lot. You will basicly burn up your ship if you use one. Thank god, this is precisly what I had hoped for <b>SCBs are now useless!</b>
Really? You said it here.
How can you see a problem if you have no experience with the issue? That is like me telling a woman how to deal with her menstrual cycle. Laughable at best...
I wouldn't have as much of a problem if the expansion did work like a CZ, but it doesn't. Also, this problem isn't only in the Conda, it happens in any ship, it is just more pronounced the bigger ship you have. But the bigger ship you have, the more defend-able you are, so the problem scales...
I've already said I won't judge it till I can play with it myself, but on the surface it seems like it will be, for me, game breaking where I can no longer play how I want to play.
I've only ran into this once, and promptly abandoned the Conda for the Gunship(which i preffer anyway). I see you don't share the game developer's idea of ship classification's or intended limit's, it doesn't make you right. You go into a situation a ship is not specifically designed to be in you should die, the whole reason rail Asp's are even a thing in my eye's was because you people(not "you" but people who brought SCB stacking Conda and Python money maker's into CZ's) whined CZ's were too easy because you steamrolled everything before they were added. Too many people see this game as "cr per hour ship progression" grind and that's why the change make's those people wince, whereas RP-er's and thos who play for fun see it as a challenge and oportunity for the game to get back on the course it was sold on.
Every time it does that. I do it multiple times a week. I have experience in this part of the game, and probably more than most. (been rate 5 for about 2 months, almost strictly gaining merits in expansion zones)
"Not seeing the problem" as in I see the thing you see as a problem as two thing's 1.) bad implementation & 2.) good idea. If it were refined to actually give you some leeway for a few second's then it'd be better, but it's till no big deal as is to me.
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and again, I am not talking about CZ's or credits! I am talking about expansion zones specifically, and I do not think I would have any better time in a Gunship. It is the zone mechanic. I have had this problem in Viper, DBE, Vulture, FDL, Python, and Conda.
I have less experience but still I have experience, my problem is an inabillity to accurately translate my thought's and experience into word's many time's.Because this is a game forum experience is not required?
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I know, I explained in my other reply it is messed up...took me awhile to see the exact place we were arguing over, but turn's out we kinda agree there.
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Expansions are very different from Conflict Zones, in most Expansions there will be 8+ ships waiting for you when you drop out of SC and if you take into consideration the use of Rails which the NPC seems to favour you have little chance of surviving the encounter.
The ships in these zones seems to follow along these lines.
Sorted by how many ships usually spawns of this type.
-Asp
-Condor
-Eagle
-Vulture
-Imperial clipper
-Python
-Anaconda
These are all personal statistics, but I've spent some time in these Expansions so i'm somewhat familiar with what ships spawns and in what numbers.
Take this as you wish.
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Ok, so as we are now on the same page about expansion zones, the problem I have is that SCB' were all but required to even enter them.
So, now SCB's are changing, which can have a huge impact on entering an expansion zone. Since I like to play in expansion zones, if I am unable to enter them FD just alienated me and folks who also play like me. For what? Because kids cannot figure out how to kill players that have SCB's equipped? Seems like a bad play in my view. Especially as Solo is an option.
Now, here is another way to thin out the player base. And to be honest, from FD perspective thinning people completely off the game should be avoided at all cost.
So, now SCB's are changing, which can have a huge impact on entering an expansion zone. Since I like to play in expansion zones, if I am unable to enter them FD just alienated me and folks who also play like me. For what? Because kids cannot figure out how to kill players that have SCB's equipped? Seems like a bad play in my view. Especially as Solo is an option.
Now, here is another way to thin out the player base. And to be honest, from FD perspective thinning people completely off the game should be avoided at all cost.
I think the SCB's will still be viable at the cost of 1 Booster per SCB changed Heatsink, as well as hull reinforcement and module damage change's allowing "hull tank" combat ship's to better scale along side them. Will have to wait and see, but look's promising from reading about it. Currently most of the issue is a Combat ship simply can't keep up in any way through shield or hull tanking, this look's like what FDev is changing(or trying to address) not just changing it because people whined. I also wouldn't have put it past them to have made the change so drastic intentionally to get as much feedback as possible to try and fix the problem right once they comb through all the data & feedback.
Don't you mainly play Solo?
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I play whatever, I do play solo alot now to avoid SCB spammer's. I also used to play Open exclusively both on Xbox and PC so I've been on both side's the metaphorical wall.
I could play exclusively open now, running into people is rare in ED, I just preffer not to have my game interupted by stupid PK-er's who can't effectively use their ship. If I were to run into a guy who didn't need SCB spam to kill me(or just survive the mistake in half the case's) I wouldn't be bothered, but it seemed like those were the only people I ran into so I started playing solo more.
Also what does that have to do with the quote? SCB's were more OP in Solo anyway as NPC's lacked the skill to learn how to overcome them in the first place. Honestly think the best solution would have been different SCB mechanic in Solo from Open, but the way FDev talked that wasn't even an option.
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You know I once took on 4 Anaconda's in my Vulture, or maybe I should tell you about that time when I stumbled across a wing of 6 federal assault ships in a Haz Res that after I killed 4 of them called for back up and spawned in 4 more while I was in my FDL. Or maybe, that time when I dropped into an Asteroid belt (Not even a ring with Res sites just a standard belt) to transfer fuel to a wing mate (because he screwed up) only to find that there was a wing of 7 Pythons lead by an Anaconda. That was a hard challenge for my Python.
Or, perhaps that time when I joined a Conflict zone in a system I'd spent the last month and a half bounty hunting. Where my rep with both of the factions in the conflict zone was so low that they were both red from the get go couldn't even pick a faction to help my rep was so low. Yeah I got my ass outta that one pretty sharpish.
You see there's a little thing called Chaff which defeats 95% of AI's instantly. Because only the Elite ones use Fixed weapons and have sharpshooter accuracy with them.
So, sorry if I don't consider AI to be a threat. And make a in my case factual statement about the only time I have an issue in CZ's is when another player is in there on the enemy faction. But then you wouldn't know anything about PvP would you. Since you never leave solo mode.
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I think you should expect a fix for conflict zones with 1.5
I am going to stand by my original point here! (Got removed). Should have been swallowed....
Ability to think for myself!
Ability to think for myself!
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